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Originally posted by Ironclad
Originally posted by Hefficide
Men already have reproductive rights.
They have the right to keep their pants zipped if they can't step up to the plate.
They also have the right to get the snot kicked out of them by other guys if they fail to exercise their first right.
edit on 9/16/10 by Hefficide because: missed a few words in all the excitement
Not all men have a choice.
Originally posted by Ironclad
There are some women out there who deliberately misslead men into thinking all is safe, just in order to get knocked-up and demand child support from the man and from the government.
Are those guys who gett fooled into becomming dads at fault to?
Originally posted by SeenMyShare
reply to post by peck420
Not true. My husband knew that his youngest son was his even though his mother denied it. He took her to court and got an order for a paternity test. He was right. AND.... he has custody of his son. Full custody. He got custody in under ten minutes in court. He decides when and if his son's mother will get visitation. The judge actually looked at his son's mother and told her "I wouldn't let you babysit my dog!"
Originally posted by hotbakedtater
reply to post by DaMod
I disagree. A man most certainly has rights to his child.
Originally posted by stephanies-chase
reply to post by Ironclad
You make no sense. Fooled in to becoming a dad? I'm pretty sure if the girl got pregnant...the sex wasn't a joke. Well I guess it could be. And unless you a celebrity, I'm pretty sure girls aren't thinking, "hmm I should trick this fool into getting me pregnant so I can get child support." Children cost a whole lot more than what most women get for child support.
Originally posted by MessOnTheFED!
I guess people only want equal rights when it fits their agenda. Typical.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by Kailassa
You're saying that if a girl gets pregnant It should be entirely the man's choice as to whether he support the baby he has fathered.
Up to a certain time in the pregnancy. This gives the woman time to make the decision as to whether or not she wants to attempt to financially support the child on her own or have an abortion.
Kailassa: Should the father still have this right if the woman does not know she is pregnant until too late to have an abortion?
Benevolent Heretic: I assigned an arbitrary time period of 4 months, but there should be a time period. 2 months, 3 months, whatever. When is it "too late" to have an abortion?
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic What woman cannot have an abortion? And I have never advocated that anyone push a woman to have an abortion.
I'm talking about the law, not morals. If you're saying that some women "can't" have an abortion because of morality, I say that she CAN, but because of her morals, she CHOOSES not to.
Benevolent Heretic:But the rights of the child AFTER BIRTH don't come into play, because all of this happens in the first 3 months of pregnancy.
Benevolent Heretic:You're talking about children, not fetuses. I'm not advocating for fathers to split on their children. Come on! That's not fair.
. . .
If that's what you think, then you don't understand my position. I think I've been pretty clear, though.
Originally posted by chefc14
This has always bothered me. I have 4 kids and never had a problem taking care of them. I actually planned and wanted my kids. However it bothers me when a female gets pregnant and has the right to decide the fate of the child and the man. I don't care about her body. People will look at the male and say,"you play you pay" but no one will look at the female and say that. She has a cop out. She can just decide to abort. No one holds her responsible for anything but the male gets held responsible. After the baby is born it has 2 parents but before it's born it only has one and she gets to decide. It's even worse when the father wants the baby and the mother doesn't, now in this case he has no rights. It's insane, of course as I said I don't give a crap about her body. Someone should hold her responsible and say,"you play you pay." Now I hate government involvement in anything so I don't know the answer but the problem drives me nuts.