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posted on Sep, 16 2010 @ 02:14 AM
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Pope faces atheist hate campaign in UK after top German aide says: 'When you land at Heathrow you think you're in a Third World country'


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The 77-year-old Cardinal had told a German magazine: 'When you land at Heathrow you think at times you have landed in a Third World country.'

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posted on Sep, 16 2010 @ 02:14 AM
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How to get your visit off to a great start, eh?

The Pope's visit to the UK was under scrutiny to start with, what with the recent scandals in Ireland and elsewhere regarding sexual abuse by catholic priests, leading to Irish catholics not taking up the full allocation of tickets to see the Pope (why should people have to get a ticket to see a religious leader anyway?).

So now, one of his cardinals claims arriving in the UK is like the Third World?????

Firstly, he's talking absolute crap.

Secondly, using the words "Third World" as an insult, is not exactly becoming of a man of the cloth - shows what he thinks of the Third World, doesn't it?

And thirdly, he goes on to claim that the UK is filled with "agressive atheism"......so not believing in God makes us agressive, does it?

Seems to me that the Pope needs to get a grip of his inner circle - this guy is also German, so no love lost there between him and us Brits.

Maybe this is what happens when you let a (former) Nazi into the Vatican's top spot? I can't help wondering whether this cardinal was similarly engaged in his youth?

They need to get their own - very much perverted - house in order, before they start criticising people who don't believe.


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posted on Sep, 16 2010 @ 02:21 AM
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I like the term agressive atheism I'll be using that,yes my dear cardinal many in Britain do know your babble is a load of old dark ages cobblers with absolutely no scientific,historical or archeological proof of any description.



posted on Sep, 16 2010 @ 02:22 AM
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I see a lot of "aggressive atheism" on the innertubes.
This is not a joke, it is a targeted campaign.
I still hold no love for the Vatican, the Pope, and the elites in general.
A buncha carp, IMO.
Let us ordinary people live, you freaks.
Fight amongst yourselves, we have some farming to do.



posted on Sep, 16 2010 @ 02:29 AM
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Here's a list of the few evil's of the Christian faith. Take it all in at once and smell the truth.
www.truthbeknown.com...



posted on Sep, 16 2010 @ 02:42 AM
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By what many britons post in the interwebs, I'm pretty much convinced many are aggressive atheists and are in love with socialism.



posted on Sep, 16 2010 @ 02:45 AM
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I'm an Atheist and I'm an Capitalist. Where does that place me?



posted on Sep, 16 2010 @ 02:48 AM
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I only found out today on the news this morning that the Pope was invited by Gordan Brown to visit the UK.

Seeing as though Brown is no longer PM surely that should nullify the visit and in turn mean the tax payer doesn't have to shell out for the Pope's visit. I mean if Brown wants him to come over for tea & scones with the Queen surely the two of them can afford to pay for his visit themselves instead of making millions of disinterested tax payers foot the bill especially when the UK has concerns over spending on the new tankers the air force have bought which lack protection for flying in Afghanistan and also cut of funding to flood defences which will result in people being unable to insure their houses if they live in high risk areas.

All that money wasted on this stupid publicity visit which could have gone on better, more useful things



posted on Sep, 16 2010 @ 02:50 AM
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If you prefer capitalism you're probably not hooked on the socialist kool-aid, Good on you.



posted on Sep, 16 2010 @ 02:53 AM
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I do have socialist friends. They are some of the nicest people and they bought me food, twice! Some Mideastern type vegetarian for the last time. There are Muslims everywhere though. It's crazy. I'm always near the exit just in case something goes off.



posted on Sep, 16 2010 @ 02:58 AM
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I'm just saying, by my experiences on the web, many Britons seem to practice aggressive atheism as well as have a love for socialism. I'm not saying much else.



posted on Sep, 16 2010 @ 02:59 AM
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Not to make light of your situation, but I thought
it was only our idiotic government that
sucked up to the "Godly Ones".

Well I guess I can take some comfort in
the fact that a country with a long history
such as England still makes some religous
mistakes. Maybe one day we will finally get
rid of it.



posted on Sep, 16 2010 @ 03:10 AM
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I fully agree. 10.5 million quid down the drain, and our wounded soldiers are having to be taken care of by a charity (Help for Heroes). It's a disgrace.

I'm an atheist - don't believe and don't have the time to worry about not believing. As far as i am concerned, religion is a support system for weak people, who can';t get through life on their own. I take what is thrown at me (and i've had a fair bit in the past), deal with it (or accept the consequences), and move on. No need to refer to organised religion for the answers. Let's face it, if God existed, with all the troubles of the last century alone, he's have shown himself and shown us the way. He hasn't and he doesn't.

There was an intersting debate on Sky News last night - one thing that was thrown up was that the catholis church set up a special order as far back as the 1500's, to deal with priests with drink problems and sexual deviations, including paedophilia. So these recent cases of sex abuse are no surprise to them.

And let's not forget the Pope himself played and active part in covering up cases of abuse.

Yeah....a realman to follow, eh?



posted on Sep, 16 2010 @ 03:13 AM
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You're not really saying much at all, to be honest.

You are aware of what Socialism is, aren't you? And I trust you are also aware of what a Social democracy is too?

I bet you're an American, where you simply have 2 flavours of everything. You're either a "liberal" or "conservative", or you're a "Socialist" or a "capitalist" over there, aren't you?

Guess what, there are massive shades in between all these little labels you guys love and you would be hard pressed to find any true Socialists in the UK. I guess what you think of as socialism is actually liking the NHS, for example? Newsflash, sunshine, the UK is one of the most "capitalist" countries in Europe. You want Socialism, go to Greece mate. They make the UK look like the US...

As for the OP. Kind of shocked at this cardinals comments. I would be interested to know exactly what about the UK he thinks is 3rd world? I suspect it is purely some old Germans dislike of the "English" and a bitter feeling about having their arses handed to them in not one, but two World Wars, a world cup final and a 5-1 spanking in Munich just to rub salt in the wound.



posted on Sep, 16 2010 @ 03:20 AM
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I'm so glad you mentioned the 5-1 spanking in Munich.

I myself now tag that onto the two world wars and one world cup when engaging with various Teutonics i have worked with. Nice One!!!


And just to explain to those of you who may not know who Peter Tatchell is.... ex member of parliament, gay right activist, socialist, and habitual disruptive protester (it doesn't matter who comes, he probably has some sort of beef with them and will attempt a high profile protest). Keep your eyes on the news, becasue if anyone is likely to rush the stage waving condoms about, whilst shouting various things about women, gays, abuse, and generally anyhting else confronational....it's gonna be him, although i suspect every police office will be carrying his picture and watching him very carefully. I would guess rather than at a public, organised event, he will try and interrupt the popemobile somewhere. You read it here first......



posted on Sep, 16 2010 @ 03:25 AM
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I consider socialism communism-lite. When the needs of the collective outweigh the rights of the individual. Socialism is the trading away of economic freedom for a safety net. I'm against social engineering projects and most government spending.

You could define socialism as the ownership of production by workers if you want to be pedantic, but I feel it doesn't actually accurately represent the ideology behind it. If you want I could say many Britons are pro-collectivism instead.


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posted on Sep, 16 2010 @ 03:28 AM
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Here's a great site explaining the differences of the politics.
www.marxmail.org...



posted on Sep, 16 2010 @ 03:31 AM
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So, how exactly does the UK fit into you're definition of Socialism? It doesn't! Not by a long shot, proving you are actually talking out of your arse and believing some right-wing drivel you heard about the UK during the Obama Healthcare debate, which no doubt was spun totally out of whack and was full of misrepresented garbage and untruths.

Please, elaborate on how you believe the UK is "pro-collectivism" or how we "own the means of production"!



posted on Sep, 16 2010 @ 03:38 AM
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I am not saying you are, just many Britons that I meet online espouse the ideology. I blame the London School of Economics, influenced by the Fabians, influencing the education and way people think. Don't worry, in America too academia brainwashes students to support those kinds of ideologies. It's only after being contact in the real world for sometime to people realize the fallacies they learned in school.



posted on Sep, 16 2010 @ 03:47 AM
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Well, you made a sweeping statement against the whole of the UK. I think you believe what these people "espouse" is socialism, when it isn't. Desiring a National Health Service does not make one a Socialist.

Also, one has to remember that reading the opinion of a few dozen forumites does not equate to what the country at large thinks.

It also depends on the forum you are visiting.

If you visit, for example, ukcommies.co.uk then yes, everyone you read online will be a socialist! You syhouldn't then turn that very narrow experience into a belief that the Uk as a whole is Socialist!

If I did that, I'd believe every American was a self-centred, narrow-minded, Bible thumping wierdo after what I see on ATS, but I know that for every plank online, there are several others who are not.



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