New World Order...not such a bad idea

I have pondered, analyzed, and critically thought this thing out...

The New World Order

First of all, it creates a united, one world governement in which there are no boundaries and we all become global citizens

Population is reduced. This alone reduces crime, poverty (because there is more food for less people) and more land. More land means less industrialized locations in which food can be grown and be healthier because the soil is more rich.

Police State- less crime

One World Currency- no need to convert money; more convienent

Survival of the fittest- This is where being 'aware' and educated come into play. I really do feel that for the millions of people who chose not to grab education and 'snap out' of their zombie mode, maybe they do need to stay where their at. In a New World Order, there still is a need for a slave-labor only population. Lets face it. Thats the way of the world.

I watched this video last night www.youtube.com... and he hit on all of my stated points. He's just a regular guy who has critically thought this thing out.

Lastly, I feel that the fear mongering behind the NWO is stemmed from our religious sect. Knowing that alone let me know that I needed to take another look into this.

My point: People, lets take another look at the NWO and understand that maybe, just maybe, the people don't know what's good for them. After all, the 'people' are majority either unaware, uneducated, or both. I now understand why the Agenda is being slowly imposed on us; if they tried to explain we would either not understand or revolt.

A united world...why is that horrible? I remember watchinig an episode of V and the alien woman made a very profound statement, regarding our seperated globe. She stated that on their planet, (and others) they view Earth as unorganized and don't understand why we are still 'seperated' and have boundaries How could we compete gallactically if we're not even together here?

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I like the fact that the New World Order also uses eugenics and population control... Of course, that would depend on what side of those programs you were on. It's always easy to like being the one holding the gun, not the one about to be shot...

You are correct. A new world order is not such a bad thing... I think one of the or the most important thing to change is religion... One world, one religion. If all the people in the world would have the same religion then there would be much less fighting and meaningless wars..

You are delussional. One world government is one world control. Think Hitler 100x. What it comes down to is simple, the need for people to govern themselves and their extremely localized community. That is it.

reply to post by ButterCookie


You are proof that TPTB will not have to force anything upon anyone.....They won't have to force the NWO on us, we're gonna ask for it. Consider this if you will, a united world is probably better indeed however in order to remove the lines of separation between one another to bring us together we have a huge obstacle in the way....Religion.
Ya I know, thats a little behind the times for a majority of the population and its clear that it either needs to get out of the way or be forcibly removed. Since there are a lot of faithful followers out there, I believe their only option is to have these people forcibly removed, such:

1. A massive global event like an alien invasion or threat of war.
2. Mass extinction brought on through war tactically removing religious territories
3. Kill off any believers that follow a religion whose believers are stubborn i.e. Christianity (when I say stubborn, I mean faithful)


to me the only way this can be achieved is through lies....if they have to lie to get a NWO established, kinda makes you wonder what else their motives are.....

reply to post by Jkd Up


I agree. Eugenics (Population control) is an effective tool to control our ever increasing poulation.

You certainly have a point regarding that it depends on which side of the fence you are on.

I say lets become and stay educated and healthy. In my opinion, the non educate and non-productive members of society are the ones to worry or fear this.

while I do subscribe to a united world, I certainly do not subscribe to the OPs view of it.

the NWO...the spooky version anyhow (ripped completely from the georgia guidestones) is a twisted version of a orweillian nightmare gone wrong, with 500m people total, most being slaves to the few kings and queens under the guise of safety and xenophobia

The reality of what we need to work towards would look more like a star trek style type 1 civilization, where there is a functioning world government but also every nation, state, and township has its leadership. same currency, sure. balance with nature, sure...but balance of nature was the issue of the day when the guidestones were erected.

They simply didn't understand how pollution could possibly be reduced or eliminated without people also dying...technology progresses however even when people aren't paying attention (they rarely do pay attention) and so instead of taking a machine gun to crowded areas, we seen tech develop to start reducing and removing pollution while maximizing resources. Any true world government would need to focus in on technological development to support a growing world.

Also, one thing that will surely get us into space is a growing population...the best inventions and innovations come out of necessity...when it becomes necessary to find alternatives to living on top of the planet, you will see true drives in both colonizing space, and building vast underground cities.

So ya, I am very much for a one world government...or at least a united world, but one designed by the people and for the people, not by the powermad few.

the thought of losing our constitution and becoming serfs again does nothing for me. You realize once this one world government is established you will be just a number, and will be treated like a animal instead of a citizen right? the thought of having some fat azz pig that has had a golden spoon given to him since infancy and in charge of us numbers, doesn't seem to me to be the survival of the fittest, more like a who you know and if you dont know anyone, guess what your life shall be full of disppair and suffering, Again this does not appeal to me, I think you should really do some reading about why this great nation was a first of its kind and soon to be the last,

Most people are afraid of loosing their "freedoms" without realizing that most are already lost. Beyond that, what are these same people so fearful of loosing their precious freedoms doing to keep them?

If there is gov enment (ESPECIALLY the way it is set up now) there is control. Humans could not deal with complete freedom... Chaos would reign and the weak would be trampled by the strong... Irronicly, the same they are afraid of with an NWO situation....

I apprecitate these comments as I like to analyze both sides of this table.

I appreciate the opposing viewpoints as well.

My response: As far as the idea of wnating a NWO goverened by the people? The 'people' have no clue what's going on outside their country, let alone outside their planet, for example. The will not understand what is essentially 'good for them'. I was able to understand when I had a conversation with someone that was on welfare with children. I posed the idea of population control and they stated that they didn't want the goverment to tell them how many kids they could have. My immediate thought was "someone needs to." They will keep having 'babies on the State' who will eventually repeat the cycle of poverty and crime and become unproductive members of society, wasting space and resources.

I KNOW that sounded so ugly. But I thought this thing out with an opened mind and unbias opinion of the 'spooky' NWO. I was on the side of the fence where the opposers of this argument is at just days ago.

As far as the statment that the NWO will not have to impose it, we will want it....it should be that way. But how many of us are educated or enlightend enought to know what is good for us in the bigger scheme of things? We will never ask for something we know nothing about.

As far as the statement about we will all be issued a number? That has alrady happended, approxiatmately 50 yrs ago. We are issued our ID number at birth so that segment has already taken place.

Our freedoms? As the guy on the video link (see OP) stated: "What have we done with our freedom other than destroy our planet, murder each other, and waste resources?

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reply to post by Jkd Up


Star for your post!

I totally agree. What are we doing with our supposed 'freedom'?

We won't become highly educated, we waste resources and land space, therefore damaging the soil making our food we grow not healthy, we kill each other oversenselss things, we reproduce and the majority of us can't parent correctly, thus bringing new unproductive citizens in...

Again, I know my statements sound harsh, but we have to come to the realization of things.

I am a black female.

I know that I have made statements on this thread that other blacks or mothers on welfare would hate me for, but I have crtically thought about these things.

For one, the NWO is not racist. WE are. They are very very classist.

I see so many of my race acting like "n's" and I am disgusted (another topic for another day)

The NWo definately needs an intellgient thinking class of people as well as a working class. Its all about which side you want to be on

Bottom line, get on the winning team.

One thing I've been considering is the idea that those behind the NWO are very keen on the "As above, so below" sort of idea. Maybe their corruption is a reflection of our corruption, and perhaps if we (the people) sort our **** out and start treating each other with respect then maybe they will too.

I also agree that the fact that most of the Anti-NWO (particularly Anti-Freemason) stuff is spread by very religious people is something to consider. Who has messed up the world more, the various religious power structures, enforcing their ludicrous dogma on ignorant people, or the 'evil' Freemasons? Could the Witch hunts be coming back to bite religion on the ass?

Now I understand the idea that Freemasons and Religions are part of the same babylonion whatsit, I'm just speculating here..

reply to post by March of the Fire Ants


Indeed!!! Check out that youtube link in my OP, as he makes the exact same points as you

Religious people fear monger about the NWo because they are misunderstanding some concepts. Not to go into the Ancient Alien theory about the gods but a brief point is that their was a 'good' god and a 'bad' god. The one who was referred to as the "good god' imposed slavery, confused our language when we were all working together and speaking one language, murdered 2.3 million not counting the Flood, and was the jealous ruthless tyrant. The 'bad' god was the serpent wanting to enlight Eve and all the Humans, wanted people to understand that god was trying to keep us enslaved because that was our original purpose, and only killed 10 people as a a result of a bet against God. He's called the Enemy (Devil)

So do religious people evenhave it right? I think not....

The whole idea of an Anti-Christ would mean anti the evil God of the Bible....thats why the religious people hate the idea of a NWO and they don't really understand why.....

I completely agree with the OP, a united planet under one unified power is most deffinatly the way forward, this would put an end to all wars and create, for the first time since the dawn of man global peace as there is no longer any direct compatition between nations. And personaly i feel history has demonstrated clearly that we are becoming closer together as a planet, it is perfectly natural evolution.

The reason however i believe there is much fear of such an ideal is that, yes it will give an incredible amount of power to a very few, and unless they are enlightend philosopher kings[very doubtful] there could be a lot of problems. But, what people fail to understand is, PEOPLE DO INFACT NEED TO BE CONTROLLED, a rational self aware person may find that a tad extreme, certainly most people on here will not understand that as they will tell themselves "i dont need controlled" which is probably true, however the people posting here[well some of them] are not a true reflection of the masses, who are undoubtedly prone to the odd bit of anarchy at the best of times. And people who say, no man, we dont need ANY FORM OF CONTROL, yip well thats great, however if it werent for the control over your lives that already exist some crazy 7 foot alpha male will just come to your house, rape your family and steal your #. Good luck in that world mateys. THERE MUST BE AT ALL TIMES SOCIAL CONTROL, why the hell dont people understand that.

There is also another major fear, and it is not governments, though there complicity in this is astounding, with the eventuality there will no longer be any borders, thus no competition between states, it does not mean to say corporations will not be competing against one another. Corporations now have the resources and finances to compete against major nations, it would not take much for a company say, Exxon Mobil to militarise themselves with lucrative contracts to mercenary firms such as XE and begin at first covert actions against competing corporations.

If the world were to push for a untited one world government, corporations would need to be reignd in immediatly in order to satisfactory co exist in the socialist Utopia a one world order could provide. However ever since the creation of the British East India Company i have never seen evidence of the corporate entity being brought to heel over anything, being that the case one must assume the agendas in place are not entirely for our benefit, and any idea of a one world order should be treated with mistrust and if need be fought at every stage, as history has also demonstrated corporations are not to be trusted in anyway shape or form as our lives are secondary to there proffits.

It is difficult to forget that during the Revolutionay War, we faught tyranny, voted in a pure and temporary way of government, only to let our system fall to the same levels of a King...


You think you're free.... Try buying a beer at a store at 2 in the morning... Or try driving without a seatbelt... Freedom is nothing more that a gague between your own personal desire to do something versus the masses...

reply to post by ButterCookie


Don't let this get out but I agree with much of what you are saying here.
If you speak about controlling population there is a faction, I don't know where they come from or what their goal is but they will always jump in and accuse you of trying to sterilize people.
There is no sane way to discuss this growing disaster of numbers but rampant and unchecked population growth is the fastest way for us to end life on the planet.

Ah yeah he has some interesting points!

So essentially what we're saying here is that Satans biggest lie is that he is God, and that God is Satan. So Christianity is actually Satanism. Seems about right to me just look at the popes face

I'm not sure what to make of it, the world just needs to change, we need to stop being a holes and get on with the good stuff!

I recently came across this speech by Issac Asimov where, at
the keynote address of the Humanist Institute, January 14, 1989, he states that to answer the problems which face mankind today:

... when it comes to any facet of national life that rises above the parochial needs of cities and states, the federal government tells all the states what to do and the federal government can do it because it consists of representatives from all the states. Well, what we need is some sort of federal world government and the only problem is how we manage to do that.

The comment comes right at the end of the first part of the video here:



The second part:



Or you can see the unedited 44minute video here: Isaac Asimov - Threats to Humanity and Solution -1989

Isaac Asimov on the threats to humanity caused by human activity and his answer to the challenge. This frightening yet hopeful talk is even more timely now than it was in 1989. Asimov,president of the American Humanist Association, and the author of over 500 published books, weaves this talk with insights about the American Revolution, The Civil War, The Cold War, biology and human nature.

The talk was given at the first annual meeting of The Humanist Institue in the New York Society For Ethical Culture.

It is a little more than 44 minutes, including the question and answer period.

reply to post by Johnze


It is sooo refreshing to see people of very intelligent critically thinking like minds!!!!

You are correct in that there is a need for social control and it is psychotic to think not

When I first was becoming 'hip' about the NWO and learned all about Project Blue Beam, something struck me the, that maybe I needed to rethink it, but I didn't.

The whole idea that it was going to erradicate all the religions and form one global religion: they never specified what kind it would be...Now that I have put though into it, I think they want to enlighten people about lies of traditional religion and teach us more about the real 'gods' and E.T.s....discloure....understanding the Cosmos and the universe. I think that will be the new concept becaue they will not have to lie to us anymore and we could accept life outside planet Earth, which is the major reason human civilization is very primitive in the galaxy.

reply to post by March of the Fire Ants


I"m sure that we all are aware that Obama is part of the NWO, how can he not. My problem is that he is people pleasing and that is not going to get it. Honestly, Bush was more a NWO leader. He didn't peopl-please and ignored what the masses had to say about him, cuz he knew that they didn't understand the plan.

Allow me to share some things that some of yu may agree with , that makes me want to be on the CFR and speed this thing up:

- seeing welfare mothers that continue to reproduce (because the gov't rewards them with each additional child)
- the socialist idea (NWO is more fascist/communist IMO) where you work hard to live in the suburbs and, pardon my frnch, ghetto-project citizens get a free home to live in next door to you because of section 8 housing
-Hearing the words 'MY country is the best....."
-Our leaders (president) having to keep the religious mask on so they scare away the masses (who are religious)
-NASA and gov'ts having to keep the lid over the E.T. issue

and so on and so on

Even Obama mentioned in a speech last spring that other nations are ahead of 'the race' because they don't waste time with democracy- the idea of allowing everyone to have a say. You want the truth? Everyone does not need a say. Everyone is not intelligent or informed enough, and besides democracy spells chaos just by definition......