I like the fact that the New World Order also uses eugenics and population control... Of course, that would depend on what side of those programs you were on. It's always easy to like being the one holding the gun, not the one about to be shot...

You are correct. A new world order is not such a bad thing... I think one of the or the most important thing to change is religion... One world, one religion. If all the people in the world would have the same religion then there would be much less fighting and meaningless wars..

You are delussional. One world government is one world control. Think Hitler 100x. What it comes down to is simple, the need for people to govern themselves and their extremely localized community. That is it.

while I do subscribe to a united world, I certainly do not subscribe to the OPs view of it.

the NWO...the spooky version anyhow (ripped completely from the georgia guidestones) is a twisted version of a orweillian nightmare gone wrong, with 500m people total, most being slaves to the few kings and queens under the guise of safety and xenophobia

The reality of what we need to work towards would look more like a star trek style type 1 civilization, where there is a functioning world government but also every nation, state, and township has its leadership. same currency, sure. balance with nature, sure...but balance of nature was the issue of the day when the guidestones were erected.

They simply didn't understand how pollution could possibly be reduced or eliminated without people also dying...technology progresses however even when people aren't paying attention (they rarely do pay attention) and so instead of taking a machine gun to crowded areas, we seen tech develop to start reducing and removing pollution while maximizing resources. Any true world government would need to focus in on technological development to support a growing world.

Also, one thing that will surely get us into space is a growing population...the best inventions and innovations come out of necessity...when it becomes necessary to find alternatives to living on top of the planet, you will see true drives in both colonizing space, and building vast underground cities.

So ya, I am very much for a one world government...or at least a united world, but one designed by the people and for the people, not by the powermad few.

the thought of losing our constitution and becoming serfs again does nothing for me. You realize once this one world government is established you will be just a number, and will be treated like a animal instead of a citizen right? the thought of having some fat azz pig that has had a golden spoon given to him since infancy and in charge of us numbers, doesn't seem to me to be the survival of the fittest, more like a who you know and if you dont know anyone, guess what your life shall be full of disppair and suffering, Again this does not appeal to me, I think you should really do some reading about why this great nation was a first of its kind and soon to be the last,

Most people are afraid of loosing their "freedoms" without realizing that most are already lost. Beyond that, what are these same people so fearful of loosing their precious freedoms doing to keep them?

If there is gov enment (ESPECIALLY the way it is set up now) there is control. Humans could not deal with complete freedom... Chaos would reign and the weak would be trampled by the strong... Irronicly, the same they are afraid of with an NWO situation....

I apprecitate these comments as I like to analyze both sides of this table.

I appreciate the opposing viewpoints as well.

My response: As far as the idea of wnating a NWO goverened by the people? The 'people' have no clue what's going on outside their country, let alone outside their planet, for example. The will not understand what is essentially 'good for them'. I was able to understand when I had a conversation with someone that was on welfare with children. I posed the idea of population control and they stated that they didn't want the goverment to tell them how many kids they could have. My immediate thought was "someone needs to." They will keep having 'babies on the State' who will eventually repeat the cycle of poverty and crime and become unproductive members of society, wasting space and resources.

I KNOW that sounded so ugly. But I thought this thing out with an opened mind and unbias opinion of the 'spooky' NWO. I was on the side of the fence where the opposers of this argument is at just days ago.

As far as the statment that the NWO will not have to impose it, we will want it....it should be that way. But how many of us are educated or enlightend enought to know what is good for us in the bigger scheme of things? We will never ask for something we know nothing about.

As far as the statement about we will all be issued a number? That has alrady happended, approxiatmately 50 yrs ago. We are issued our ID number at birth so that segment has already taken place.

Our freedoms? As the guy on the video link (see OP) stated: "What have we done with our freedom other than destroy our planet, murder each other, and waste resources?

More comments?

One thing I've been considering is the idea that those behind the NWO are very keen on the "As above, so below" sort of idea. Maybe their corruption is a reflection of our corruption, and perhaps if we (the people) sort our **** out and start treating each other with respect then maybe they will too.

I also agree that the fact that most of the Anti-NWO (particularly Anti-Freemason) stuff is spread by very religious people is something to consider. Who has messed up the world more, the various religious power structures, enforcing their ludicrous dogma on ignorant people, or the 'evil' Freemasons? Could the Witch hunts be coming back to bite religion on the ass?

Now I understand the idea that Freemasons and Religions are part of the same babylonion whatsit, I'm just speculating here..

I completely agree with the OP, a united planet under one unified power is most deffinatly the way forward, this would put an end to all wars and create, for the first time since the dawn of man global peace as there is no longer any direct compatition between nations. And personaly i feel history has demonstrated clearly that we are becoming closer together as a planet, it is perfectly natural evolution.

The reason however i believe there is much fear of such an ideal is that, yes it will give an incredible amount of power to a very few, and unless they are enlightend philosopher kings[very doubtful] there could be a lot of problems. But, what people fail to understand is, PEOPLE DO INFACT NEED TO BE CONTROLLED, a rational self aware person may find that a tad extreme, certainly most people on here will not understand that as they will tell themselves "i dont need controlled" which is probably true, however the people posting here[well some of them] are not a true reflection of the masses, who are undoubtedly prone to the odd bit of anarchy at the best of times. And people who say, no man, we dont need ANY FORM OF CONTROL, yip well thats great, however if it werent for the control over your lives that already exist some crazy 7 foot alpha male will just come to your house, rape your family and steal your #. Good luck in that world mateys. THERE MUST BE AT ALL TIMES SOCIAL CONTROL, why the hell dont people understand that.

There is also another major fear, and it is not governments, though there complicity in this is astounding, with the eventuality there will no longer be any borders, thus no competition between states, it does not mean to say corporations will not be competing against one another. Corporations now have the resources and finances to compete against major nations, it would not take much for a company say, Exxon Mobil to militarise themselves with lucrative contracts to mercenary firms such as XE and begin at first covert actions against competing corporations.

If the world were to push for a untited one world government, corporations would need to be reignd in immediatly in order to satisfactory co exist in the socialist Utopia a one world order could provide. However ever since the creation of the British East India Company i have never seen evidence of the corporate entity being brought to heel over anything, being that the case one must assume the agendas in place are not entirely for our benefit, and any idea of a one world order should be treated with mistrust and if need be fought at every stage, as history has also demonstrated corporations are not to be trusted in anyway shape or form as our lives are secondary to there proffits.

It is difficult to forget that during the Revolutionay War, we faught tyranny, voted in a pure and temporary way of government, only to let our system fall to the same levels of a King...


You think you're free.... Try buying a beer at a store at 2 in the morning... Or try driving without a seatbelt... Freedom is nothing more that a gague between your own personal desire to do something versus the masses...

Ah yeah he has some interesting points!

So essentially what we're saying here is that Satans biggest lie is that he is God, and that God is Satan. So Christianity is actually Satanism. Seems about right to me just look at the popes face

I'm not sure what to make of it, the world just needs to change, we need to stop being a holes and get on with the good stuff!