I am not sure what this thread is about. The ban of burqas and the expulsion of illegal Romas are two large issues and they deserve seperate topics.
So I guess the thread is about... giving opinions about France. I might be off topic and I apologize in that case.
I see stereotypes as a display of ignorance. We want stakes, simplifications and generalizations to give us a first 'understanding' of something we
don't know about. We need certainties, the unknown is unbearable and insecure.
We feel secure our 'understanding' is commonly shared. Hell, we don't want to be challenged by the majority about something we don't really know
about, it could lead to an embarrassing situation for us. So let's all stick to generalizations easily summarized in a few words, Gypsies are
thieves, French are arrogant, Americans are stupid.
The ban of burqas and the expulsion of Romas are very politically tainted issues so in my opinion viewing them as social or moral issue is a mistake.
Reading 2 or 3 articles in the press won't necessarily help comprehend a topic without knowledge of the political and social backgrounds.
The long years I have passed trying to explain to non-Americans that no, not all Americans think alike and no they are not all Bush worshipers have
exhausted me so I will pass on this hilarious presumption in our divided societies that because the French governement is doing this or that, the
French are like this or that.
The expulsion of Romas is highly divisive in France with a very noticeable fracture between the left and the right. The ban of burqas is more
I am out of energy so I will lazily link to a previous post
I wrote about
the expulsion of Romas (that I am opposed to) with my subjective views and a few facts.
In regards to the burqas' ban, it's inaccurate to equate the use of burqas and the Islamic faith. The burqa is a tradition still existing in a few
sects of Islam but rejected by the majority of muslims. It doesn't invalidate the questions around individual rights but the angle that it's a
discrimination against muslims as a whole is an inflammatory spin used by radicals and sadly forwarded by benevolent and candid non-muslims.
of Hassem Chalghoumi, Imam of Drancy in Paris neighborhood, I am sorry it's not in english but it's interesting and today's news.
He says 'The burqa is a phenomenom alien to the Coran, alien to Maghreb's Islam, alien to the Islam with nothing to hide, alien to Enlightned
He has had his house 'visited', has received death threats and once was attacked in Drancy's mosque by extreme radicals for his moderate stance.
The majority of French muslims are of Maghrebi origins (Morroco, Algeria, Tunisia), most are French of 2nd, 3rd generation with cultural differences
and practices from the Persian Gulf where the burqa is more common.
And another article in english
from last year about Fadela Amara declarations, she is a French
minister. She strongly supports a burqa ban. I don't know what is her faith but she is obviously not a practicing muslim. I am not pretending she is
a voice of Islam, she is the opposite to Hassem Chalghoumi but she is representative of a part of French 'cultural' muslims.
I am trying to show the breakline here is not between muslims/non-muslims but rather moderates/radicals and radicals on both sides are trying to use
the issue to their own advantage by antagonizing muslims and non-muslims.