With the garbage hollywood is spewing out...im turning to B/independant movies!

Is it just me or is almost every thing released by hollywood these days completely half arsed and hit and miss? Most the latest movies ive seen are crap. I have been let down by so many big releases over the last two years, and just when they get a good idea they chop it up and ruin it!

Lets run over a few examples...
The expendables...absolutely crap! CGI was crap, no squibs with most the blood in CGI gave it a even more fake look. Story crap, acting crap. A cash in from hollywood.

Pirhana 3D - Are you just promoting 3D porn? Was entertaning, not worth the 21 AUD i payed to see it though!

Avatar - With out starting a discussion on this, it was annoying and should have been darker ie T2.

The only decent movies ive seen over the last 2 years, that I can describe as mainstream are:
Drag me to hell - Sam Raimi did it right this time
Fanboys - Didnt feel likea big movie but I guess it was with the wienstein company ruining some of it I hear. However it was still good.
I also thought terminator salvation was good, was hit and miss yes but you can see it just crossed the line IMO.

Now, moving on overall ive seen at least ten times better b/indie movies..lets name some...

TV show wise most latest seasons have been crap...
Curb your entusiasm, sunny in philadelphia, family guy, american dad, supernatural and the declining quality of the simpsons...

REC 2 (and to a less extent REC 1)....All i can say is, go see it! The spanish have horror cornered!
Diary of the dead/survival of the dead - Romero horror.
Zombies of mass destruction - B movie horror not bad
Macgruber - SNL type movie, old school comedy type.
Mulberry street, salvage, undead or alive (may be over 2 years now though)...

Whats your take? Am I going crazy or is this a noticeable trend?

It's because of all the people pirating and torrenting the movies and tv shows you know. They're losing bazillions every week and angels are losing their wings, so they can't afford to pay the actors or writers any good coin.

The last movie I saw at the cinema was actually Avatar in 3D and to be honest, I liked the indi film Ink much better; completely different stories far removed from each other and just a quirky movie that I like - if I could have seen Ink at the cinema I would have, but sadly, foreign indi films don't make it here.

However here is the difference in reality.

As no big studio picked up the film for theatrical and home distribution, Double Edge Films pitched the movie directly to independent cinemas and also saw to the DVD, Blu-ray and online distribution themselves. DVD and Blu-ray copies of the movie are sold directly via the company's website starting from October 30, 2009 and are sold at retail stores starting November 10, 2009, as well as downloads at Video on demand stores.[4] According to TorrentFreak, a file sharing news site, Ink was downloaded via BitTorrent 400,000 times in a single week and exposed the film to a large audience, leading to higher DVD and Blu-ray sales in return.[5] Jamin and Kiowa Winans wrote in their newsletter that they had "embraced the piracy" and are "happy Ink is getting unprecedented exposure."[5] Around Christmas 2009 the film was also released on Hulu for free viewing.[6][7]

Ink Wiki

So mainstream movie companies rabble on about how poor they are while cracking down on people who are refusing to pay large for what turns out to be tripe, and the little guy who stands to make little cash is OK and embraces people freely distributing theyr work - and getting paid for it.

This honour system of distribution makes me embrace guys like this over the fat cats who couldn't give a toss about what rubbish the mass produce.

One day they'll work it out. Quality over Quantity... I blame metallica. lol

Piracy is an excuse, if they make big films people will come..no matter what even with piracy avatar was huge you had to see it on a big screen..if they hit us with rubbish well people will be more keen on d/ling it or waiting to hire it out instead of seeing it at the movies or owning it. I find the video shops now more packed then cinemas from thurs -sat its almost impossible to get a big movie on those days they are always hired out. I think its an excuse for them to pay crappy money to writes and just hope to sell a film on its razzle dazzle factor and which celeb in it has sex appeal, or special fx where there are no credible stories/actors....Its like turning a great book into a simple supermarket magazine..yeah it sells, but it isnt good necessarily.

Also rob ridrigues said that his trailers often intentionally mislead audiences..ie predators...the 100 sights on adrian broady then in the movie there was non...i dont like that and im not a fan of his style. I think quentin tarantino is better then he is, and he just settles for second best and tries to turn it into a style.

Seriously no one can name one good movie, OK in the last 5 years? People will name avatar then??

Look at the 90s, so many and the later 80s! We had robocop 1 and 2, terminator 1 and 2, jurassic park, total recall. ghost busters and a whole plethora of low budget greats...the thing, big trouble in little china, they live...heaps of memorable movies Now its all bout remakes and reboot and reimaginings...B and indie movies really only strive to make new ideas..and if its good hollywood buys it and claims it as its own.

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You seem to have missed my point...

Ultimately, in terms of movies from the msm, I agree with you !

Originally posted by badw0lf
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You seem to have missed my point...

Ultimately, in terms of movies from the msm, I agree with you !

Sorry I must have, not sure what you meant?

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I'm not completely down on Hollywood but the low budget indy filmmakers are coming into their own shooting with DSLRs and REDs. Great new directors, screenwriters, committed crew, unheard of actors making movie art with a macbookpro, final cut and basically budget cameras. The art of film and video is now open to anyone with a story to tell and streaming webisodes is the medium.

Try

"Winters Bone"

A couple of threads with a lot of good indie and art house suggestions:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

As with indie films (and all art, in general), some Hollywood films are great, some blow.


-TheAssoc.

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Here is a glimpse of the future into what indy film making is becoming. No budget, lots of friends into film, dedication and talent. I didn't work on this project but many of my friends have. Remember the Name Hanna McPherson.

www.datedoctortv.com...

long live the www and technology. Don't complain about the current state of movies. Make your own. Enter festivals and competitions, form a film coop, participate in life. Film your life and put it on a hosting site. People will watch. Have a story, write a script, celtx.com... get a cheap camera, edit on imovie or movie maker. anyone can be a producer/director. Film everything, from TPM meetings, cops being heros, people making fools of themselves, everything, always carry your camera.

The entertainment industry as we now know it is obsolete. Power to the people. Let us see what you see!


YOUTUBE