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Originally posted by DrJay1975
European Muslims-Mostly integrated and westernized while about 15% support terrorism.
Originally posted by SaturnFX
Originally posted by cleveract
reply to post by SaturnFX
Allah(God) allmighty give us a chance, to be tested, God knows how every living being will end upp like, and could end this test, but Allah(SWT) choosed to test us so we dont have an excuse in the hereafter that we did not had the chance to be tested...
So let me get this straight
He know's the outcome but humors us anyhow
There is no free will, we will do exactly as he knows we will do...how is that then a test? if he knows I will fail this test no matter what, then whats the point...and the same with if I am without a doubt going to pass.
This God is like a anti-god if thats the truth beyond it.
As far as organization of the universe..oh, I tend to believe in order in the chaos overall, but such order has little to do with the knuckle draggers on some planet on the edge of some rather small and obscure galaxy in the middle of nowhere...people whom believe in a personal deity that even gives a rats arse about their existance have no concept whatsoever as to how big the universe is...or the galaxy...or even the world.
Allah, the evil demi-god, if even such a thing exists, is not the creator of the universe, but rather some monsterous creature from space or perhaps a alternate dimension that has connected to this world for one reason or another at best...but my bets are on a delusional idiot many years ago that sold the locals into his delusions.
I want you to truely consider the implications of all you said...then ask yourself...if the game is rigged from the beginning, what type of God would that be...to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that people will fear you then end up endlessly torturing the existance of most..the only ones that are "saved" will be those few whom did enough grovelling at your spiritual feet so to speak...then maybe...
Sorry, but I think the arabs have a word for this beast that appeared back then...a djinn.
Edit-add: Dont be upset by this...same question goes onto other judaic religions...all of these bibles and offsprings talk about how God knows all, and only God can give a person salvation...also how in the eyes of God, the paths of a person is set in stone and only he can decide to change it.
Free will, according to the logic of the texts, is therefore a complete illusion, and if a single soul ever goes to a hell like place over this, then the God of Abraham is indeed a evil deity for the willful torture of a person by their own design...the illusion of free will is not relevant to the greater picture of the deity's actions...like sticking a picture of a teddy bear on the barrel of a gun...it doesn't make it a teddy bear
edit on 15-9-2010 by SaturnFX because: added stuff
Originally posted by earthdude
Once a Jehovah's Witness showed me a picture of Jesus on horseback with a flaming sword. He was chopping up Muslims. This was in a bible. Maybe that was the real Jesus and the one Christians worship today is the fake one. How would I ever know the truth? One thing is true: Islam will never be popular in the USA. If even 10% of America goes Muslim, I will eat my hat. Pure fear mongering at work in this thread.
Originally posted by ipsedixit
Acid doesn't plan to corrode steel either.
It is in the nature of acid to corrode steel.
Very astute scientific observation. Unfortunately human behavior is more complex. But, still, I will work with what you've provided.
Acids can only remain in a high PH state as long as they don't mix with a base. Our society is that base.
Originally posted by Titen-Sxull
reply to post by Alxandro
I predict if they go ahead with the plans to build, it will pave the way for the next Timothy McVeigh.
Oh, I agree. Some bigoted intolerant Christian moron probably will blow himself up.
Originally posted by ipsedixit
reply to post by TheImmaculateD1
Acid doesn't plan to corrode steel either.
It is in the nature of acid to corrode steel.
Originally posted by Soldier of God
Originally posted by Titen-Sxull
reply to post by Alxandro
I predict if they go ahead with the plans to build, it will pave the way for the next Timothy McVeigh.
Oh, I agree. Some bigoted intolerant Christian moron probably will blow himself up.
True Christians don't believe in suicide so more likely it would be one of their own martyrs who would do the deed and then they would blame it on the Christians.