Originally posted by xynephadyn
You know your right- im only a paranormal expert and investigator myself. AS FAR AS THE # THEY CAPTURE ON CAMERA which cant be faked- its real. i
know ive seen it myself. im not talking about someone screaming and say "oh i saw something" and that being claimed as real
Actually Xyne faking things on camera is relatively easy. They've admitted to showing fake evidence. Almost anything can be faked. YOur natural
senses are almost the only reliable method. I would consider myself an educated and experienced student on the subject as well. I've headed 2
paranormal investigative teams, I'm a psychologist who has served as consult for the catholic church on a couple of exorcisms in Kenya and a couple
stateside with the Episcopal Church. I also hold a Doctorate of Divinity. And I have seen things which are truly amazing.
Lets discuss what you consider proof. I'll make some assumptions based on prior threads.
EVPs- They are garbage. With all of the radio, tv and cell signals bouncing around the atmosphere an EVP isn't reliable. Neither are ghost boxes
and such. Disembodied voices which are audible to an investigator and recorded on multiple devices are reliable. Have to play with the filters
excessively to get a sound is rubbish. None of the Paranormal shows use controlled environments, save the National Geographic debunking show. And
frankly how can you prove an EVP is from a spirit? I could be sheer coincidence that they get an answer they want after audio manipulation and many
EVP's are audio matrixing. How do you prove ghosts can talk anyway?
Video- Almost always nightvision. Light sources make funny things appear when using night vision. Video can also be edited. Again a controlled
environment, appropriate chain of custody on the video, and multiple stills and video are accurate. But depending what the composition of a spirit is
how do you know it will appear on photos or video?
FLIR/Thermal- Easiest fake there is. Hard to percieve depth. Leaning on something can cause a heat signature, so can a wire with too much current
running through it. Birds, bats, animals, reflections and residual heat are often mistaken for apparitions.
Photographs-Slow Shutter speed and crappy cameraphones. Low quality recorders where you have too much pivelation and ghosting with motion. Again
easy to fake. People see faces in photos that are simply the brain creating familliar images from complex patterns.
Human obsevation- Very few investigations are controlled properly. Voices carry. People walking around. Failure to attempt a debunking of
mysterious circumstances. Mass panic. Fear.
EMF readings-What is a ghost? So how do you know what kind of reading it will give off? If anything?
Thermometer-Prove a ghost can fluctuate a temperature and it isn't a draft or simply a cooler spot in the house.
Geigercounter-One of our tools where we take a base reading of the entire home just like with the EMF and thermometer, recording it all. That way if
anything does happen we know what the base reading for the area is and can determine if it is indeed an anomolous reading tied to possible spirit
You don't know the composition of a spirit. You don't know what type of readings it will give off. If they walk through walls they must be pure
energy right? THen why don't they pass straight through the floor? If they have mass how do they walk through walls? Or Float? Until one is
captured and contained and scientiffic study done all of these ghost shows manage to do is propogate bad science. They don't know what the hell they
are doing. The scientiffic method does not exist for 99.9% of paranormal investigators.
I let my oldest son watch Ghost Adventures so he can see how badly they fake evidence and grasp at straws to find the paranormal. They have garbage
unsubstantiated evidence which is worthless because it was taken in such an inscientiffic manner.
If you ever want to see a scientifficly conducted controlled investigation then let me know, we'd be happy to have you.
Calling yourself a paranormal expert is a sham. You can't be an expert on something that you can't prove exists or that you have zero scientiffic
data on. I have controlled data on FBA's, poltergeist activity and exorcisms. Real consistent instrument readings conducted in a scientiffic manner
in a controlled environment. You can consider yourself an expert in paranormal theory perhaps, but thats about it. But from most of what I've read
a lot of your theory is bunk. Mindless speculation.
I mean no offense whatsoever but when I hear paranormal expert and see a complete lack of science I just cringe. Running around a house with a
trifield meter, a digital voice recorder, a few cameras and maybe a dousing rod doesn't constitute a scientiffic investigation. Offer advice. Don't
present your opinions as fact until you have some type of scientiffic validation. I have more than 25 years of paranormal experience and 15+
attacking from a scientiffic standpoint. My teams and various religous institutions consider me an expert on the subject. I do not. I am learning.
But garbage shows like Ghost Adventures, Paranormal State, Ghost Hunters, etc... they make those of us who actually are wroking on the subject in a
legitimate scientiffic manner look bad. Don't help them.