In response to a question from another on another discussion group:
I responded (under my signature of “4Q529”, which is a Dead Sea Scroll entitled “The Words of Michael) as follows (perhaps someone on ATS would
like to continue this discussion here about the 3 dimensions of consciousness):
“Before I answer that question, I have another bone to pick with you.
I suggest that the start be made with observation, rather than any 'mind'.
What do you observe?
You observe space and time and sensations and perceptions (an internal state--like heat, pleasure, pain, hunger, thirst, etc. etc.--and an external
reality) of a space-time reality.
You observe emotions in relation to those sensations and perceptions.
You observe that there are memories of those sensations and perceptions and emotions.
You observe that there is right hemisphere thought, or time-independent picture thought, and left hemisphere thought or time-dependent thought.
And there are memories of all of these things.
And we have not yet encountered any 'mind' at all.
Sensations and perceptions and emotions are primarily the consciousness of the "self". And thoughts are primarily the consciousness of the
Still no 'mind' has been discovered.
And it is not at all needed.
So, most people conclude that this is all to human consciousness: the consciousness of the "self" and the consciousness of the 'thinker'.
But there is another dimension, a third dimension, of consciousness which has to do with, and gives additional information about, the origin of the
"self" and the origin of the 'thinker'.
Prior to the 'movement' of self-reflection, there is no consciousness of any separation, or of any separate existence of any "self" independent
from either the physical reality or other "selves". This is a non-spatial, non-temporal, non-dualistic consciousness. (But I call it a 2-dimensional
'flat' space consciousness because that is the way that I observe it to be.)
Once a person becomes aware that he or she is conscious, that very awareness creates a "self" separate from both the physical reality and other
"selves". This is the creation of the 3-dimensional 'curved' space and all dependent dualities; being the "tree of the knowledge of good and
Then thought comes along and postulates its own existence; that is the thought of the 'thinker' and the thoughts of the 'thinker', in order to
maintain the existence of the 3-dimensional 'curved' space over time.
No 'mind' is found anywhere in this.
It is no more of a helpful concept than "phlogiston" is currently considered to be.
So, the 'movement' of self-reflection does not occur "anywhere".
It is the very origin of space and the "self" itself.
In other words, it creates the very space within which it exists.
As previously stated, it is more accurate to say that the brain occurs within the space created by the 'movement' of self-reflection than that the
'movement' of self-reflection occurs within the brain.
This is all quite straight-forward and readily observable to those who are serious...
And who have not been sidetracked by the thought of any 'mind'.