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Being lonely 'can kill you', research shows

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posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 12:05 PM
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Being lonely 'can kill you', research shows


www.telegraph.co.uk

People who have no social life are fifty per cent more likely to die early than those who are well connected, a study has shown.

Those who socialise regularly with family and friends live an average of 3.7 yeas longer than those who lead lonely lives, according to a report published yesterday.
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posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 12:05 PM
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Uh Oh! Bad news for me I guess


Who wants to be ninety anyway? I hope when I snuff it, I can still wipe my own ar$e right up to the end!

In all seriousness though this seems like common sense, and it's something we have all known for years. Having friends and family to lean on is essential in this world.

The study I have to say appears to be quite comprehensive for a change and takes into account the personal experiences of some 300, 000 individuals. This I think you'll agree is a really good test size, considering more dramatic claims have been presented in the media from much more modest experiments.

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posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 12:22 PM
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It's only stats, of a certain demographic, within a country. So you trust such stats? Greenspan and the entire wall street casiono operators used stats to fool the masses, and look at what happened next? Humanity was screwed big time by MISINTEPRETATION either willfully or ignorantly and suffering now worse.

Loneliness does not kill. No man needs to be alone unless he/she chosed it on their free will. Some get by, some don't. Those who don't or cannot live with it, will get out of the cycle and renew their social aquintances, with better wisom and maturity.

Those who can live with loneliness, will accept his/her lot and make peace, and like everyone else, be responsible for their own lives.

The true killers out there are only animals, regardless of being lonely or with large social interaction, with a burning mad insane desire to kill just for killing sake or to serve an agenda. I doubt if Osama or George Bush were lonely individuals, or were the american troops or talibans. Even Hitler had his own squeeze.

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posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 12:37 PM
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This could simply be attributed to the fact that if someone has incapacitating health issues (has stroke, heart attack, etc) that "lonely" people don't have anyone who can call the ambulance for them, and "non-lonely" people are more likely to have those back-up support people around to call the ambulance.

If they are trying to suggest that being "lonely" has negative physiological consequences, I seriously question that. "Lonely" people have a lot less drama and stress. Also, they are less likely to suffer from physical abuse, violent attacks (jealous lovers), etc.

I think the only reason there is a small discrepancy in life expectancy is because lonely people are less likely to have someone to call the ambulance for them.


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posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 12:46 PM
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This actually doesn't make too much sense.

You can spend your whole life around people and still be lonely.

There is a huge difference between friends and "acquaintances".

Most people have no friends, just people they see everyday and chat with.

That doesn't mean they won't be lonely inside!

So the word "lonely" is being sort of misused here.

Maybe they should have said "Hermits" instead? It seems to fit the definition of the term they were seeking a lot better.



posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 12:48 PM
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Oh and being lonely doesn't kill you.

Nature kills you.

Everyone eventually dies, regardless of how many people they hang out with.

So it's really an exercise in futility.



posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 12:51 PM
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After my wife died I read up on some of the statistics and found that I'm six times more likely to die in the near term, and this is exclusive of age, health, wealth, etc. The only mitigating thing that the studies I read found was widowers who remarry resume the same death rate as they had before. Whether that's due to stress, loneliness or not having anyone around to summon the EMTs, I don't know.

I also recently saw this: www.wired.com... which attributes a lower morbidity rate for drinkers to the social aspect of drinking.



posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 01:00 PM
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Everyone is different. I prefer being alone. It's when I'm around stupid people that irk me that I have a higher risk of heart attack .... blood pressure and all .....
Give me a quiet place all alone to myself in the mountains and I'd be a happy camper.



posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 01:10 PM
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"Professor Uchino said that the emotional support people receive from those close to them can help put their problems into perspective.

“By having a secure relationship and feeling loved, people live much more secure, calm lives,” he said.

The research found that the link between death and loneliness applied to men and women of all ages, regardless of their health."

What about those who have mental disorders ??Who are paranoid?Have anxiety disorders?Do they live shorter lives because they socialize like most other people?Weres a stat on them and this theory?



posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 01:18 PM
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I think it is entirely depndent on the person. Some people like to be alone, like myself and it's not that we feel lonely, as we have ourselves. Don't get me wrong, I love my children and value my friends, but their is no better feeling in the world than being alone. It's when I'm happiest, as it's just me and my thoughts. Wouldn't I be much better off, so long as I'm happy?

I'm sure that there are others like me. As much as I like my family and friends, I enjoy my time in peace and quiet and when I go out (my social life), it's more out of obligation than anything. That being said, I do enjoy myself when I'm out with friends and/or family so it isn't like I dread it or only enjoy being alone but I could be just as happy on a deserted island, all by myself (after my children are grown, of course).

--airspoon


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posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 01:30 PM
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Originally posted by airspoon
I think it is entirely depndent on the person.


Statistically, it doesn't really matter whether one likes to be alone or not -- statistics are arbitrarily based on the demographic, not filtered by what that demographic thinks about itself. It could be argued that the morbidity rate for those who are alone and don't want to be is significantly higher and pulls up the rest, but I think that's unlikely, given that most solitary people are that way because they like it, so the numbers would really, really have to be skewed for that to be the case.

That said, there are a huge number of factors which play into this that may be the true cause, and simply result in people being alone, but the fact of the matter is that choosing to be non-social appears to have an impact on your longevity.


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posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 01:43 PM
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I have begun to formulate the opinion that statistics can kill you. They should be avoided at all costs... almost 99% of everyone who dies is a statistic!

I wonder if they are working on an anti-loneliness pill? Don't laugh... they have one for everything.



posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 01:43 PM
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Perhaps people who live alone don't tend to eat as well.

I know a few people who started eating less healthy food,
and eating less regularly, after they became alone.

To those who say aloneness does not equal loneliness, I agree.
I only get lonely in a crowd.



posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 01:46 PM
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Loneliness is a curious state of mind. I used to seek out people, even people I didn't like just so I wouldnt be alone.

Now even in a room full of people with crazy partying and bizarreness going on; I still feel alone.

Thank God for friends and lovers.




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posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 01:54 PM
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It's hard to give a damn about a 50% chance of dying 3 and a half years earlier than anyone else. Who cares?

According to the CIA Factbook, US citizens are 49th on the list of long lives at 78 years. The Top 10 have life expectancies in the 80s. Does this mean that just living in the USA 'can kill you' by up to 6 years?

Is the study just a BS exercise in wasted funding? Maybe.

If we look at the bottom end 10 nations of the list, life expectancy struggles to hit 50 years of age. Is loneliness the overriding factor there? Maybe if they all make friends, they can extend their lives to an average of 53?

Call me a cynic or jaded SOB. In terms of worldwide life expectancies...loneliness is way down the list after food, water, education, political stability and health services.



posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 02:17 PM
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It makes a lot of sense. First off, we are a social species. It doesn't matter if you prefer to be alone, you're still a human and as such designed to be around other humans. This also gives you a support network if something does happen physically or emotionally. Finally, having people around you that you like puts you in a positive mood which has been shown to help improve overall health.



posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 02:17 PM
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Some people such as myself prefer to be alone. I have a great partner, pretty much all the company I need. I use to live with my family, they drove me nuts, lol. Too noisey - I would be on the computer and they would just blurt tru my door - lets do this or lets do thats, I was doing what I wanted to do. They borrowed money alright and never paid if back, lol. I strive on and love solitude - I like to listen to music, go for walks among nature - the every day chit chat just isn't my cup of tea. And as for friends, a close friend is good but too many friends can get you into more trouble than help you. There is always one in the group that wants to talk the other into doing something they shouldn't and if you are vunerable to be part of the group you just might go along with it. Friends can also be competitive - they want to show you who is better at sports, who has the best car, the best clothes, etc etc. Give me my partner and my dog and a lot of alone time and I will not grow old as fast IMO.


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posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 02:21 PM
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that means 3.7 years of not having to deal with relatives I would never befriend in the real world and all the jerks and ratty kids people bring with them were I to cut all ties...Hmmmmm. Tough call.



posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 03:50 PM
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Hey folks thanks for the great replies!

I have to say that i agree with a lot of the comments made, particularly that a few quality friends is much more important than hundreds of acquaintances. When I used to be on Facebook a few years ago I had maybe 130 friends 30 of which I would actually associate with, 7 who I would have and still do consider true friends. Real people you can count on in a crisis.

Now in contrast one of my friends had 830 people on his profile, now don't get me wrong I'm not surprised because he is the coolest guy you'll ever meet, and loves to party.
But I asked him one time how do you keep in touch with so many people, is it not exhausting? He still to this day swears he speaks to each one on a regular basis



posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by Big Raging Loner
 
It's hard to give a damn about a 50% chance of dying 3 and a half years earlier than anyone else. Who cares?

According to the CIA Factbook, US citizens are 49th on the list of long lives at 78 years. The Top 10 have life expectancies in the 80s. Does this mean that just living in the USA 'can kill you' by up to 6 years?

Is the study just a BS exercise in wasted funding? Maybe.

If we look at the bottom end 10 nations of the list, life expectancy struggles to hit 50 years of age. Is loneliness the overriding factor there? Maybe if they all make friends, they can extend their lives to an average of 53?

Call me a cynic or jaded SOB. In terms of worldwide life expectancies...loneliness is way down the list after food, water, education, political stability and health services.





You are absolutely right there Kandinsky. But with all the luxuries our modern society has to offer, our minds turn to more frivolous worries, such as the mortality link to loneliness. Like I said in the OP I don't want to be an old man just for the sake of it. I want to retain my independence right to the end.




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