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NEWS: Haiti, The Forgotten Country

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posted on Jun, 22 2004 @ 09:34 PM
In a forgotten corner of the world that just a few months ago caused much controversy in the United States with the issue of nation building. The Bush administration has had a quiet success and is ready to turn over responsibility for its Haitien mission to brazilian peacekeeping troops.

PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti - With their mission in Haiti drawing close to an end, U.S. Marines on Tuesday presented slum residents with a refurbished soccer field they created by removing trash, laying dirt and setting up nets.

The 3,600 U.S. troops leading a multinational task force were sent to Haiti after rebels launched a three-week rebellion that led to the ouster of President Jean-Bertrand Aristide on Feb. 29.

The United States will hand over the mission's responsibility on Friday to Brazilian troops, who will head a six-month U.N. peacekeeping mission that is expected to swell to 6,700 troops and 1,622 civilian police. Only a dozen or so U.S. troops will stay on as part of the U.N. mission.

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US Marines to Leave Haiti

Even though there are many obstacles to Haitien peace and prosperity this seems to be a good step in the right direction for a country that has seen its share of misery in the last 100 years.

[edit on 6-22-2004 by Valhall]

posted on Jun, 22 2004 @ 09:45 PM
Haiti being in the western hemispere has seen the US step in several times in the past century. Each time Haiti has returned to graft, corruption and chaos. Hopefully this time things will work out for these people.

posted on Jun, 22 2004 @ 10:08 PM
I have to admit Phoenix, I had completely forgotten about Haiti and Aristide's ouster. I also did not realize how fortunate it was that the marines were in Haiti after the floods.

The troops' flood relief efforts have muted much of the initial criticism levied from the Aristide crisis. Hurrying to help people in submerged villages, the U.S. troops control the few available helicopters and have become key to getting aid to inaccessible areas. In the past few days, they have airlifted more than 100,000 pounds of food and drinking water and evacuated the injured.

It's nice to actually see something positive about the US for a change.

posted on Jun, 22 2004 @ 10:27 PM

Originally posted by Bleys
It's nice to actually see something positive about the US for a change.

Bleys watch how fast and hard this will be picked up by the alphabet channels and newspapers of record, sarcasm intended.

posted on Jun, 22 2004 @ 10:46 PM
The Bush administration made a "quiet success" indeed, but in the sense that they did a good job hiding to the American people that the putsch against Aristide was supported by the US!

As a matter of fact, in Canada and France, the news about the rebellion in Haiti made the first pages of all newspapers, but surprisingly, the mass media in the US (according to some internet friends from the States) just had a slight, brief coverage. As things turned out, we`ve learned here that the rebellious faction was led by a Moroccan millionnaire from USA, and a few of his conspirating buddies, and supported by a small number of elite US military troops that were there at the time things gone wild. THis seems to have been another CIA coup la '70s. Aaaah the sweet air of good ol' Republican foreing policy...

posted on Jun, 22 2004 @ 11:54 PM
I am sorry Echtelion, this is coming from France? ..... a country that has helped in the genocide of Rwanda and Sudan?.........

Sure...the US does something good and its all the work of the CIA to make us look good.....

BTW, it was in the news in South Florida that the US took Aristide from power to avoid the it was covered quite well in the news.

BTW Phoenix, thanks for reporting this, good work.

[edit on 22-6-2004 by Muaddib]

posted on Jun, 23 2004 @ 12:00 AM
so what's the news about the predecessor? Are there going to be elections or what? I hope they don't intend to "install" someone again...

posted on Jun, 23 2004 @ 01:19 AM
Muaddib, the US has even more responsability in the Rwanda genocide than France (actually I don't where you took the stuff about France from...), as the US Government has refused to send additional troops when all hell was about to break loose. And don't even try to educate me on these events... our local folk, ex-General Romeo Dallaire, testyfied in his book that the US has been surprizingly lazy to intervene at the times the massacre started, but the main responsible for the whole thing is not a country, but Mr. Kofi Annan, who was leading the security infrastructure for the UN at the time. An horrible bastard

As opposite of what you might think, the CIA is dirty, and has a long history of supporting tyrannic regimes and plotting horrible human massacres for the sake of securing natural resources overseas for huge corporations. Now you gonna tell me about the Soviet regime in France and some UN bureaucrats slaughtering babies in Minnesota, or some predictable neocon paranoia of sorts, but on my part I'll admit frankly that France, Germany, Britain, China, Japan and, oh yes, Israel (how could we forget Israel!), did bad things overseas that are not more excusable than what the US did. The Rwanda genocide was a result of a multinational plot that could have been prevented if participating countries would have stopped being obsessed about their own national interestsfor a second and to try to arrange the # that they have created there.

posted on Jun, 23 2004 @ 01:42 AM
No, the US did not go to Rwanda because president Clinton was in office and didn't want to be a part of what was happening there, but France did take a more active role in helping out in the genocide in Rwanda. You are telling me not to present you and the rest of the members with facts of what happened in Rwanda?.......

In this link you will find otherl links posted by members of ATS and I, about the situation of Rwanda and France's role in the genocide.

The following link was given by Seekerof in the thread that I gave a link to above. The link that I gave to is not working anymore.

"PARIS - The rumors were right. A devastating series of articles just published in the Paris newspaper Le Figaro by its Africa specialist, Patrick de Saint-Exupry, documents French official implication in the genocide committed in Rwanda in 1994.

Le Figaro quotes aid workers, officials and soldiers, together with evidence acquired by the United Nations in Rwanda and by a comprehensive Belgian parliamentary investigation whose damning results were published last month. "

Excerpted from.

The Rwanda genocide was not the first time in the 1990s that France has been involved in genocide, as they also played an active role in Sudan with Germany.

" THE LANGUAGE of human rights flows smoothly from the lips of the leaders of France and Germany. But continuing Franco-German hegemony in Europe is bad news for human rights, especially for victims whose oppressors are European Union partners.

What did the Franco-German duo do? It led the EU in the opposite direction. France provided Khartoum with military intelligence for the prosecution of the jihad, while French and German helicopters have been used for ethnic cleansing in southern Sudan's oil fields. Driving black, non-Muslims out of their homes creates greater security for the investments of oil firms like Total Fina (France/Belgium) and the German engineering giant Mannesmann."

[edit on 23-6-2004 by Muaddib]

posted on Jun, 23 2004 @ 12:34 PM
Yeah, I understand. Like I said, the Rwanda Genocide was the result of a multinational plot, and although I did'nt know or remember those details about France and Germany, I know that France has his hands stained with the blood of this genocide. But still the US has a responsibility to not answer to the warnings of General Dallaire and not send additional troops there, and considering USA has always been the major player in the UN Security Council, then this is a big responsibility. You may put it on Clinton's fault, but I'm wondering if Bush would have done better. Bush is not a hero who`s there to save the world, you know... there was no oil, or WMDs in Rwanda at the time the genodie happened.

posted on Jul, 11 2004 @ 04:07 AM

Originally posted by Echtelion
You may put it on Clinton's fault, but I'm wondering if Bush would have done better. Bush is not a hero who`s there to save the world, you know... there was no oil, or WMDs in Rwanda at the time the genodie happened.

What can you expect from the president that didn't want to deal with terrorists, and bombed empty places in retaliation, stating the government had done something about it?

There was/is no oil in Haiti, yet we helped them at the beginning of this year. We have helped several countries and got nothing in return but bashing from almost everyone about the US interfering with other nation's issues...I wonder if perhaps these people/governments who bash and blame the US, had any interests in those countries themselves and didn't want those interests put at risk if certain regimes were ousted.....

[edit on 11-7-2004 by Muaddib]

posted on Jul, 11 2004 @ 08:25 AM
A(Bush):"Oh,Haiti...where is it?DO they have OIL?"
B(Officer):"...i don't know exactly too,but they don't have oil for sure,SIR"
A:"Do they have WMD?"
A:"Ok,let's discuss election campaign then."

[edit on 11-7-2004 by omkao]

posted on Jul, 11 2004 @ 08:29 AM
Haiti will be back under control by the end of the year in my opinion.
The question is who will be in control

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