The Left and "Progressives" Are Becoming A Cancer Of This Nation!

Are they really?
Who is doing what again???

Show me the liberal progressives in this picture and I will show the representation of true American heroism, not the sick "cancer" you claim is at work.

reply to post by havok


I agree with Havok and anyone serious about the political climate and what it's become over the past few generations should examine and take a hard look into what each of us think we are fighting against.


It couldn't be any more counter-productive than to think in terms of democrat/republican or progressive/conservative. What we think these parties stand for no longer exists and hasn't for a long time. To be "behind" one or the other is like choosing Peppermint Patty over Charlie Brown as your favorite Peanuts character.


Both sides are deeply entrenched (and have been for many decades) in a campaign that is methodically designed to destroy constitutional government and degrade the society that wants to keep the Constitution alive. Once that's accomplished, a highly centralized, socialist state can be established with the full economic backing and power of the global financiers who control the interest and issuance of monies in each country to begin with.


The absolute enemy of the global-power-establishment, pulling both parties strings, are Constitutional concepts of limited government, rights of property, state rights, problem solving at the local level and minimal government intervention.


Contrary to what mainstream media peddles, BOTH parties are instrumental in this program, it is not the conservatives defending us from the progressives or vice-versa.


People think one is "better" at providing jobs or bringing about an economic recovery. However the ultimate goal being accomplished (while waving promises of jobs and recovery in front of us) is to create severe social dislocation and violence while increasing pressure at the top, from the executive branch of Federal government, to be given massive power to solve these problems.


Then the cycle of proposed social legislation involving many billions in expenditures is executed to allow the global establishment the opportunity to continue its accumulation of power and resources to further build up its super-rich, globalist machine.


Neither party is a party for the Constitution. What is needed above all else and more than ever is some kind of American Constitutional Party 100% dedicated to the protection of the constitution, a dismantlement of the monopolistic power structure in control of both political parties, and control of our own money system; to name but a few obstacles.


How can strategies like political partisanship battles on TV and in the media even be on the radar when faced with problems of this magnitude? Can we even find individuals with the mental fortitude and resources (on the public stage) to even acknowledge the existence of these problems while being expected to do something about it?

reply to post by On the Edge


If the Democrats are Communists than I'm Jesus Christ.

So some lunatic Tea Party fringe morons, some whom call themselves "rodeo clowns", claim that the Democrats are Socialists/Communists and all of a sudden it's truth. Even though if you ask anyone in the world who isn't mentally capacitated, completely partisan or starving for ratings, if the Democrats are Socialists/Communists and they would tell you simply, "NO".

The Communist Party of America did not mean that the Democrats are Communists but rather that they are glad the Right-wing lunatics known as Republicans were out of power. Anyone on the left would be thrilled that the Democrats beat the Republicans any day.

As for their Progressive label according to a Gallup poll even 7% of Republicans and Conservatives consider themselves Progressive. So the Progressive label spans the spectrum, although the concentrated Progressives are Center-Left.

www.gallup.com...

Originally posted by rusethorcain
Are they really?
Who is doing what again???

Show me the liberal progressives in this picture and I will show the representation of true American heroism, not the sick "cancer" you claim is at work.

I'm going to go with the second guy from the right. The Short one with glasses.

I got your point though. We are all Americans and Progressives/Liberals are some completely different group of people, they are just Americans.

Originally posted by ModernAcademia

I am not demonizing anyone that thinks differently, I think differently than almost everyone on this board ask anyone.

Sounds to this interested outsider like you are categorically demonising the left, sorry to be pedantic, but you clearly blame the left thus "demonising" them and falling for adding to the great divide and rule project of your elite.

reply to post by ModernAcademia


I'll just fire one across your bow with regards what your Conservative "RightWing" has done to destroy this country with the 8 years America endured under the Bush Regime.

America - in essence - became a fascist dictatorship under Bush with the plethara of unconstitutional Legislation he enacted that is being profusely expounded upon by the current regime.

People like you harp on topics of disinformation while the real issues are being distracted from by your "left this", "right that" distraction.

It's no longer a Left or Right issue, it's about a foriegn entity that has got America by the Throat that's playing this left and right agenda to blind America from the real issue at hand - and YOU are here to play the game with them...

What are you going to do about it?

First, I'm going to expose you for what you are (which I just did... )

Next, I'm going to NULLIFY the enslaving legislation that seeks to destroy me, by being active in MY STATE'S legislative process to try to ensure American Rights and Constitutional Principles will prevail over these fascist dictators we've somehow allowed into office.

reply to post by Heyyo_yoyo


"America - in essence - became a fascist dictatorship under Bush with the plethara of unconstitutional Legislation he enacted that is being profusely expounded upon by the current regime. "


i dont recall george w bush forcing any american to buy a product in america.

george bush did not require any american ever to buy something he thought they needed.

im talking about healthcare.

it wasnt george w bush who created hundreds of governmental agencies answerable to only him.

it wasnt george w bush who armed the irs.

im sure the patriot act is in there somewhere in that statement but i havent seen any news about it being repealed.

buying automakers,insurance companies and banks are the actions of a fasict dictator but wait that was obama.

fascist dictator my azz aint bush sure the hell might be obama.


bah on you

Hey, thanks for referring to me as cancer because I believe that, as humanity evolves, so should our policies, values, and ideas. Having one set of rules and guidelines for all of eternity is not very practical. If this were the case, blacks would still be slaves. I still would not be able to vote because I am a woman.

edit to add: I notice you complain about the left always blaming conservatives and bush for everything while you blame the left and Obama for everything. You also claim the left offers no solutions. I did not see any in you OP.

Forget discussing the left and right OP. You should worry about what's going on in your head if you think we're at war with Yemen and Pakistan. Get some counseling (OFF the internet).

Originally posted by Misoir
reply to post by On the Edge

 

So some lunatic Tea Party fringe morons, some whom call themselves "rodeo clowns", claim that the Democrats are Socialists/Communists and all of a sudden it's truth.

I didn't say it. They did! I didn't just happen to hear about it in the media,it's pretty well documented over the years.

And who cares,right? This country is falling apart faster than we can type. It doesn't matter who gets the blame. There's enough guilt to go around.

Originally posted by ModernAcademia

Originally posted by MrSpad
Not only is the country not more divided then ever is not even as divided as its was under the last administration. Maybe you missed all the massive anti war protests a few years ago

You bring up an interesting topic here
There were many anti-war protests
Now there are none even though TWO MORE COUNTRIES have been added to the list of invasions, Yemen and Pakistan, under Obama's clock.

Where are the anti-war protests though?

This leads me to believe that those anti-war protests were not full of anti-war people but anti-republican people.

If you could show me some logic that suggests otherwise I would apreciate it.

Originally posted by MrSpad
Obama is a new President who has had the misfortune to come into power with a collapsing economy and 2 wars.

Correct!
And what do you do when you have a collapsed economy caused by overspending? You spend more right?
That's what Obama did, he increased military budget by 11% which means trillions and not to mention all those bailouts.

Oh ya and 2 wars, so what do you do when you have two wars? You multiply it by 2 and now it's 4 wars, Pakistan, Yemen, Afghanistan and Iraq.

But poor Obama right???

Thanks for the explanation!!

Let me get this straight you think US involement in Pakistan and Yemen began under Obama? Are you joking? I suggest you do a little research on that. But if you want to add them then you should say he was handed 4 wars. And yes as I have said historically the way nations deal with economic depressions is by stimulus spending. Its all a government knows to do. Maybe you noticed Bush started the stimulus and that just about every nation on earth has also done the same. If you want to hate Obama and the left then you have the right. You should not feel the need to make things up to support that belief.

reply to post by Misoir


Hey. My aunt Loretta was a rodeo clown! I think we should all just cool off a little bit here!

Originally posted by On the Edge
"Communist Party USA Tells Us They Are "Progressives."

They say so themselves.

Welcome to the USSA,the Soviet States of America...

Here...let me see if I can speak your idiot language....

The KKK identifies themselves as conservative christians.

They Publicly endorsed the GOP Presidential Nominee John McCain.

Therefore Conservatives and Christians are members of the KKK and racist.

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Heyyo_yoyo

 

"America - in essence - became a fascist dictatorship under Bush with the plethara of unconstitutional Legislation he enacted that is being profusely expounded upon by the current regime. "


i dont recall george w bush forcing any american to buy a product in america.

george bush did not require any american ever to buy something he thought they needed.

im talking about healthcare.

it wasnt george w bush who created hundreds of governmental agencies answerable to only him.

it wasnt george w bush who armed the irs.

im sure the patriot act is in there somewhere in that statement but i havent seen any news about it being repealed.

buying automakers,insurance companies and banks are the actions of a fasict dictator but wait that was obama.

fascist dictator my azz aint bush sure the hell might be obama.


bah on you

GWB is great! Another member posted this resume, Neocon is right, George was awesome!!!


George W. Bush (Dubya)
The White House 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.,
NW Washington, D.C. 20500

Past Work Experience



* Ran for congress and lost.

* Produced a Hollywood slasher B movie.

* Bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas; company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.

* Bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money. Biggest move: Traded Sammy Sosa to the Chicago White Sox.

* With father's help (and his name) was elected Governor of Texas.



Accomplishments in Previous Positions


* Changed pollution laws for power and oil companies and made Texas the most polluted state in the Union.

* Replaced Los Angeles with Houston as the most smog-ridden city in America. Cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas government to the tune of billions in borrowed money.

* Set record for most executions by any governor in American history.

* Became president after losing the popular vote by over 500,000 votes, with the help of my father's appointments to the Supreme Court. Accomplishments As President

* Attacked and took over two countries.

* Spent the surplus and bankrupted the treasury.

* Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history.

* Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.

* Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.

* First president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.

* First president in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.

* First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in U.S. history.

* After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history.

* Set the record for most campaign fundraising trips than any other president in U.S. history.

* In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job.

* Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in U.S. history.

* Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.

* Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in U.S. history.

* Set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television.

* Signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any president in U.S. history.

* Presided over the biggest energy crises in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.

* Presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.

* Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans.

* Set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.

* Dissolved more international treaties than any president in U.S. history.

* My presidency is the most secretive and unaccountable of any in U.S. history.

* Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history (the 'poorest' multimillionaire, Condoleezza Rice, has an Exxon oil tanker named after her).

* First president in U.S. history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously go bankrupt.

* Presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any market in any country in the history of the world.

* First president in U.S. history to order a U.S. attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation.

* Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.

* Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in U.S. history.

* First president in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the human rights commission.

* First president in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the elections monitoring board.

* Removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in U.S. history.

* Rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.

* Withdrew from the World Court of Law.

* Refused to allow inspectors access to U.S. prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.

* First president in U.S. history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. elections).

* All-time U.S. (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.

* My biggest lifetime campaign contributor presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation).

* Spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in U.S. history.

* First president in U.S. history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the world community.

* First president to run and hide when the U.S. came under attack (and then lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)

* First U.S. president to establish a secret shadow government.

* Took the biggest world sympathy for the U.S. after 9/11, and in less than a year made the U.S. the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in U.S. and world history).

* With a policy of 'disengagement' created the most hostile Israeli-Palestine relations in at least 30 years.

* Fist U.S. president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.

* First U.S. president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the U.S. than their immediate neighbor, North Korea.

* Changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.

* Set all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated U.S. law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts.

* Failed to fulfill my pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive.'

* Failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of our country at the United States Capital building. After 18 months I have no leads and zero suspects.

* In the 18 months following the 9/11 attacks I have successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of the United States.

* Removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in U.S. history.

* In a little over two years created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided the U.S. has ever been since the Civil War.

* Entered office with the strongest economy in U.S. history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.




Records and References


* At least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas driving record has been erased and is not available)

* AWOL from National Guard and deserted the military during a time of war.

* Refuse to take drug test or even answer any questions about drug use.

* All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to my father's library, sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.

* All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.

* All minutes of meetings for any public corporation I served on the board are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.

* Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.

* For personal references please speak to my daddy or uncle James Baker (they can be reached at their offices of the Carlyle Group for war-profiteering.)

Thanks for the "chain mail" - Connector

reply to post by neo96


There is clearly a lot you don't remember...

reply to post by spiritualzombie


really now for 8 years you people dished it out but not a SINGLE ONE OF YOU can say anything negative about your great leader and the democrats.


anyway my post was about the so called label of bush as a fascist dictator- the same can be said about obama.

also when it comes to constitutional rights DEMOCRATS have no better record.

try to get one to admit that is impossible.


and there is clearly alot you both do not remember.


what i do know it is america use to lead the way in the world.

what i do know is america use to be the leader in technology

what i do know is america use to be a wealthy country

what i do know is america use to make some of the smartest people in the world

what i do know for the past 20 years and today is

AMERICANS IN THE ENTIRE nations history HAVE NEVER BEEN MORE BROKE MORE STUPID THAN AT ANY OTHER TIME IN HER HISTORY.

whether you people YOU LEFTISTS WILL EVER admit it. YOU PEOPLE have played the largest role in that fact.

YOUR REGULATIONS
YOUR UNIONS.
YOUR DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION
YOUR COMPLETE BS

ARE RESPONSIBLE for large part of it all.

AND ITS NOT ALL george bushs fault no matter how much you people want it to be.,

god knows no liberal can do any wrong
god knows no democrat can ever do any wrong

THE ONLY THING A LIBERAL OR DEMOCRAT CAN DO IS BLAME BUSH.

the end result of it all YOU PEOPLE ARE part of the problem SO YOU PEOPLE WONT offer any solutions.

No,what has become a cancer to the nation are the people who are so locked into the left/right con. Both parties have tapped into the sports-fan mentality of a majority of the people in this country that it has become impossible for anything to get done in DC,not like the Repulicratic party has any interest in solving any of the nation's problems and anyone who thinks that either party has any real ideas to bring the country together are foolin themselves.

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
People blindly voted for Obama in the "hopes" of uniting this country, now the country is more divided than it has ever been in history.
No it's not because a non-white is in power but because of the liberal agenda.

From complete idiots like Rachel Maddow to Keith Olbermann to representatives like Alan Grayson and progressive democrats.... all they do 24/7 is partisan bickering.

Bush this, bush that, the right this, the right that, conservatives this conservatives that all while offering No solutions whatsoever!!

Bicker bicker and bicker, divide the country all while offering no solutions at all, isn't that the wet dream of any dictatorship?

All I see coming from the left is partisan bickering, so huge like i've never seen before, almost like they are a bunch of zombies.
I don't know if the left drinks a different type of kool-aid or something, but they are all acting like mindless zombies with absolutely no purpose in life.

They are becoming the cancer of the country!

How can progressives consider themselves progressive with zero progress?

Now keep in mind, I do not usually talk, post or much less make a thread about either the left or the right, but here I thought I should because it's becoming important.

And all while the country is going down the drain, Obama is socializing the nation, stimulus money is being sent for offshoring the best the left can do is go to gay rights rallies????????????

Are you serious??????????????

I just cannot believe the level of zombie-like thinking that is affecting the country right now, and it seems like no one cares.

I also believe Glenn Beck is a double agent paid by Dems, but that's for another thread.

What are you going to do about it?

OP, this is pretty selective thinking and memory on your behalf.

It seems to me that the right had it out for my savior since the get go -

I mean when that old lady proclaimed to Mccain

"HE'S, HE'S an ARAB..."

That says it all - the unreasonable aspects of this division were based upon the popular rights de Americanizing
media campaign.

Isn't it JUST an marvelous Coincidence that Obama has been pegged as everything that xenophobes hate.

I mean who would have thunk it...

Literally, Obama is the embodiment of all evil, he's a homo, Muslim, Black Panther, Maoist, illegal immigrant all rolled into one - absolutely brilliant!!!

So give us a break about who did the dividing here, I could not fathom a more dilluded argument if I tried to be
a manipulative liar. The scary part thou all of you is, you can not even recognize the pattern you guys fulfill -

TERROR

FEAR

9/11

to

GOLLY CLEM HES A GAY STALINITER MUSLIM ILLEGAL

It's a #@%@# joke - pre school bogey man abound...

If you guys would just get a hold of your rational,,, but it's futile, look in the mirror buddy

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by spiritualzombie

 

really now for 8 years you people dished it out but not a SINGLE ONE OF YOU can say anything negative about your great leader and the democrats.

Lets see here Bush's water bucket boy

Obama left GITMO open

DID not repeal NAFTA

DID NOT END BOTH WARS

DID NOT PROSECUTE BUSH AND CO for crimes against the world, America and the constitution

DID REPEAL ALL OF THE PATRIOT ACT

DID NOT INVESTIGATE THE FED

DID NOT PROSECUTE THE BANKSTERS

I can go on...

Point is there is failure and there is malice bucko - this is pathetic, YOU have got to be the last proud neocon left on the planet

If anyone is paying attention to the news, the Republican voters this time around consists of Democrats, Independents, and Republicans. As a result of voter rage and discontent, the Tea-Party movement is reforming the Republican party. We will have to wait and see their impact. Regardless about the overall outcome from tonight's primaries, the Republican party will never-ever look like what it did during the Bush Administration.

It will be interesting to see what happens tonight and in November.

New Guards = New Republican Party = No More Excuses.