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Forbidden History: The distraction of racism and the great American lie

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posted on Sep, 15 2010 @ 07:29 PM
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Most people that know any real history about the true civil rights movement in America are well aware that it predates MLK by over 100 years and had many advocates of all colors supporting the movement. Unfortunately, racism does not die easy, happen in a vacuum, nor is it the sole property of any race or ethnicity.

The thing that bothers me is all of the double standards. For instance, think about BET (Black Entertainment Television). What if someone launched a White Entertainment Television? It would go over like a lead balloon. Not that anyone would want to but it's just an example.

It's gotten to the point where you can't even say you don't like someone, or someone gets on your nerves if they are black because you are automatically branded a racist. The black person just immediately goes right to that conclusion. If I find out someone dislikes me my first thought is not that they hate people of Scottish descent.

In closing; When they were doing all of the stories in Haiti following the earthquake I learned that there are *still* children slaves in Haiti and they are owned by black people. When I heard some of the things that are done to these children and how horribly they are treated, even by fellow children that live in the house where they are slaves it choked me up. Their lives are absolute hell, and this is the 21st century, and it's not white people doing it.


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posted on Sep, 15 2010 @ 08:03 PM
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reply to post by VirginiaRisesYetAgain
 


For one i have Deep Respect Mr. Edgerton

but it like a German Ashkenazi Jew
Parading the National Socialist German Workers' Party, NSDAP ( NAZI ) Flag
for his Home Town & Country

Speaking of the Ashkenazim
www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...

as they Greatly Focus on the Biblical & Talmud Studies
and the past old Talmud Treatment of Genitals

Makes me wonder if the NSDAP Party used the ( OLD ) Talmud (from late 1920s to the end of the WW2) as a Instruction Book
Against the Jews Themselves ? besides the Mein Kampf Book
that if the OLD Talmud Studies the action of Degrading of an Genital (Non Jew ) to a 3rd class citizen
to a piece of livestock..

Well Look at North Korea for example as they did the same likeness with the George Orwell's Book 1984
as a Instruction Book Very Close parallels...



posted on Sep, 16 2010 @ 12:02 AM
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reply to post by airspoon
 


Very thorough. Keep peoples anger focused on the "other" so you might better control them, fool them and use them. This is the card Hitler played when his countrymen were at their lowest.

"DIVIDE & CONQUER"

I sure do believe you.
There is no doubt this lie, these exaggerations, have been deliberately perpetuated...
by a small group of white men.

Still I have to say and believe,
Not only is it a mans world...It is a white mans world.



posted on Sep, 16 2010 @ 01:06 AM
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reply to post by TheMalefactor
 


Seriously dude, if you do not care whether or not the election process in America is being done fairly or not then you really shouldn't be using the image of George Carlin as your avatar. I find that in very bad taste, as he truly cared about elections and whether or not we retained our democratic principles.
My apologies to the OP, I'm sorry if this was off-topic.



posted on Sep, 16 2010 @ 04:09 PM
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Regarding the re-writing of history, and the slave trade, I would recommend watching David Duke's two videos:

The Shocking Jewish Role in Slavery
www.youtube.com...



posted on Sep, 16 2010 @ 04:11 PM
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Originally posted by Wolfenz
reply to post by VirginiaRisesYetAgain
 


For one i have Deep Respect Mr. Edgerton

but it like a German Ashkenazi Jew
Parading the National Socialist German Workers' Party, NSDAP ( NAZI ) Flag
for his Home Town & Country

Speaking of the Ashkenazim
www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...

as they Greatly Focus on the Biblical & Talmud Studies
and the past old Talmud Treatment of Genitals

Makes me wonder if the NSDAP Party used the ( OLD ) Talmud (from late 1920s to the end of the WW2) as a Instruction Book
Against the Jews Themselves ? besides the Mein Kampf Book
that if the OLD Talmud Studies the action of Degrading of an Genital (Non Jew ) to a 3rd class citizen
to a piece of livestock..

Well Look at North Korea for example as they did the same likeness with the George Orwell's Book 1984
as a Instruction Book Very Close parallels...



Lol! I think you mean gentile, not genital.



posted on Sep, 16 2010 @ 04:20 PM
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Actually, one of the points the OP is making is that history has often been re-written to suit the agend, political or otherwise, of the writer.

After WWII, the Zionist Jews purchased most of the publishers of educational books, and so much of what we have been taught is 'history' is a modified version which suits the Zionist agenda and the Zionist stories.

Please go read about the Jewish involvement in the slave trade. Watch David Duke's videos (links posted above).



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 01:50 AM
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Originally posted by airspoon
Before the 60s, blacks didn't really want to use white facilities and they didn't want whites to use their own facilities. For the most part, people were happy separated, in their own little groups of alike looking and minded people.


What nonsense is this?
You bought into the separate but equal fallacy?

It never existed.

Airspoon, do YOU know of any elderly blacks that lived through segregation, and have YOU asked them how they felt about it?

I do, and have.
From what I've heard, you are not only dead wrong, but grossly misinformed.

You honestly think they just loved those seats in the back of the bus, using the backdoor to public facilities, learning in second-class schools, buying second-class food items/products, oh and those Black WWII soldiers who fought for this country just loved riding on the train in the back behind the Nazi prisoners they helped capture?

Those same prisoners that ate with White officers and had front row seats to Lena Horne when she performed for the servicemen, with the Blacks way in the nose-bleed section?


But black soldiers generally received few medals for their accomplishments. They were kept in segregated units, made to sit behind German prisoners of war during USO concerts and banished from the very streets they had liberated once white nurses moved in.



The Army relented and allowed the men to return home on a ship bearing other combat troops. But President Harry S. Truman did not issue his order desegregating the military for three more years. At the war's end, Strawder saw little cause for hope.

"I was really disgusted with this country," he said. "I was angry, and I stayed angry for years."
Washington Post


I mean, that is just one small example from the people that went through this.

There are tons more from various people who actually LIVED through this, not the next generation who are as removed from those times as anyone could be, stating that things weren't that bad as we think.

As if they actually know.

Please research and actually look to those that lived through, fought against, and helped changed Americas segregationist policies.

What you are putting up here is ill-informed and outright insulting.

Surprisingly you're pretty spot-on when it comes to mid-east conflicts but when it comes to the historic discrimination and racism that took place in America, you seem to have completely White-Washed it.

Kind of similar to what you claim those "Zionists" are doing in Gaza.


Mr. Backlash, Mr. Backlash
Just who do you think I am?
You raise my taxes, freeze my wages
And send my son to Vietnam

You give me second class houses
And second class schools
Do you think that all colored folks
Are just second class fools?

- Nina Simone, Backlash Blues


Don't rewrite history, pay attention to it before it repeats.

- Lee


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posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 02:17 AM
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Look, you can't deny the truth simply because it doesn't fit in with your world view.


Airspoon, do YOU know of any elderly blacks that lived through segregation, and have YOUasked them how they felt about it?


Well, that's kind of irrelevant but I'll answer anyway. Sure, I know many. In fact, I know many blacks today who claim that they don't have it as nice as whites. When you don't have the nicest digs on the block and you are told (no, grow up being indoctrinated) it's for one reason or another, then you tend to believe it.

Furthermore, before the 60s, races segregated themselves and the local laws conformed to the peoples' will. The youth or younger generation of the 60s, went through sort of a social revolution that broke down barriers, though the laws, as always, are much slower to follow (and for good reason).

Were some white facilities much better than some black facilities? I'm sure there were, however I'm sure there were cases of the opposite too. The point here, is that before the 60s, it wasn't just the whites who participated in segregation, though it was the whites who comprised most of government so the blame went on the whites when it was time for change. Nicer neighborhoods that have higher taxes are going to get nicer facilities and that is basic economics. People who maintain their facilities are going to have nicer facilities and that is just reality. Then, we hear about it today as "those evil whites, doing what they do best.. oppression". Funny thing is, if you make the same generalizations about any other race, it is consider racism.

Fact is, segregation lasts even to this day, though not done by the whites and upgraded for our modern times. Such things as black social services, Affirmative Action, scholarships (a whole host of different scholarships), etc... There are even all black universities, TV channels, churches and a whole plethora of different activities. If blacks segregate themselves today, then why would it be so hard to believe that they did it back then.

Again, ignorance breeds racism and whites aren't the only ones who can be and are racists. The more ignorant we are of not only our past but also our current situation, the more racism is going to flourish and sadly, much of that racism isn't even considered racism because of popular media and public institutions, eventhough it still is.

Lets not be ignorant to our past, so that we don't fall into the trap and seperate the divide even more by becoming racist due to that very ignorance.

With that, I'll leave you with this video. What's happening here isn't anything new and it has been the tactics of tyrants for centuries. You divide the people through creating prejudices and since humans are born with those prejudices, they have to be instilled in us. The only way that's going to happen, is to distort history and get one side to accept the blame and the other side to feel victimized. This is the only way that they can conquer us.




--airspoon



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 03:49 AM
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Originally posted by airspoon
reply to post by lee anoma
 


Look, you can't deny the truth simply because it doesn't fit in with your world view.


One of the more wiser statements in this thread so far.


When you don't have the nicest digs on the block and you are told (no, grow up being indoctrinated) it's for one reason or another, then you tend to believe it.


Clearly the concept of what "separate but equal" really represented escapes you here.
Even if many government officials are willing to own up to it.

It isn't about the fact that they didn't have the "nicest digs", but the fact that they were not comparable to those they were supposed to be equal to. In fact they were far below acceptable standards. For example, the public schools for blacks were substandard in comparison to those for whites. They were NOT getting the same level of education and access to educational materials.

It was never just a question of whether or not you had a freshly painted gymnasium and to state such a thing is to trivialize the issue all together.

As someone who has worked in some of the poorer public schools in Baltimore, it is still a major issue in America. From lead tainted walls and water, to the sharing of text books, we create an underclass society and most Americas with the "boot-strap" mentality never understand exactly how.


Although the Constitutional doctrine required equality, the facilities and social services offered to African-Americans were of lower quality than those offered to whites; for example, many African-American schools received less public funding per student than nearby white schools. In Texas, the state established a state-funded law school for whites without any law school for blacks.

Seperate But Equal-wiki


Blacks were not setting the laws. No one took a post-slavery African-American and said "are you okay with this arrangement?"
It wasn't that they simply enjoyed having substandard facilities, it was that they has NO choice in the matter.

Jim Crow set out to make that fact even stricter.

Again, stop white-washing history and acting as if this was some sort of folk story told around a campfire to impressionable youngsters.


Furthermore, before the 60s, races segregated themselves and the local laws conformed to the peoples' will.


Blacks were segregated the minute they got into America, and the laws didn't just conform to the people, the people conformed to the laws. If they didn't they could end up lynched or on some chain-gang.

That is usually the case, and the reason why protesters are so important in shaking people out of apathy.

Did you know there was still legal slavery in the 60's?
Look into what a "peon" was in the South.


Were some white facilities much better than some black facilities? I'm sure there were, however I'm sure there were cases of the opposite too.


You are joking or in denial.
Either way, your statements are shockingly naive.


Such things as black social services, Affirmative Action, scholarships (a whole host of different scholarships), etc... There are even all black universities, TV channels, churches and a whole plethora of different activities. If blacks segregate themselves today, then why would it be so hard to believe that they did it back then.


Sigh.

Thank God for affirmative action!

Otherwise we wouldn't have the unemployment rate among Black males be DOUBLE (or more) that of their White counterparts with the same level of skills.

Blacks must be inundated with work.



Blacks hit hard by economy's punch
34.5 percent of young African American men are unemployed

Lower-income white teens were more likely to find work than upper-income black teens, according to the Center for Labor Market Studies at Northeastern University, and even blacks who graduate from college suffer from joblessness at twice the rate of their white peers.

Young black women have an unemployment rate of 26.5 percent, while the rate for all 16-to-24-year-old women is 15.4 percent. WashPost


Seriously, that is from 2009, so where are all these Blacks benefiting from Affirmative Action?
Can you show me? Any studies?

Okay so why even have such things you mention in place at all?

It's the same reason why there are Latino or Asian channels, magazines, newspapers, awards shows etc. Counter-balance due to misrepresentation.

For example, walk down the magazine isle in a Rite Aid and count how many faces of color you see on those "non-segregated" magazine covers. Flip through your channels and count how many.

Just because it doesn't say "White Entertainment Television Channel" doesn't mean that it wasn't primarily just that since inception, because it was up until recently. Even still, faces of color are mostly absent or under represented in mainstream television. That is the thing, there was never a need to title magazines, shows, or scholarships under such racial monikers because it was simply understood that is what you would get in a primarily white society.

Why do you think we're still getting our "first Black/Latino/Asian/Arab to" headlines?

If it wasn't an issue before, why even notice it now?


RACISM, ETHNICITY AND TELEVISION

Historically, as MacDonald has shown, U.S. television perpetuated U.S. cinema, radio, theatre and other forms of public communication and announced people of color overwhelmingly by their absence. It was not that they were malevolently stereotyped or denounced. They simply did not appear to exist. If they surfaced, it was almost always as wraiths, silent black butlers smiling deferentially, Chicano field-hands laboring sweatily, past Indian braves whooping wildly against the march of history. Speaking parts were rare, heavily circumscribed, and typically an abusive distortion of actual modes of speech. But the essence of the problem was virtual non-existence.The Museum Of Broadcast Communications



Again, ignorance breeds racism and whites aren't the only ones who can be and are racists.


Who said they were?

Don't argue points to me that I haven't even brought up just to get that statement out.
It's playing the White race card and just as bad as any other.

I'm talking about what you have said in this thread and most of it is pretty ignorant.

Did you even read what the Black WW2 Vets had to say about their experiences with segregation or is that too, just something they were told happened to them and thus they simply believed it?

I guess Blacks must be blissfully naive and highly impressionable as compared to the rest of us.

- Lee


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posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 08:12 AM
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Awesome. S&F

Would have given more flags if I could have.

Worth repeating:


Whites didn't enslave blacks, the elites did and it wasn't an issue of race, so much as it was an issue of profits. If the same conditions would have met other groups of people, they would have met the same fate and in fact, almost every race on our planet has met that fate at one time or another.

..……The truth is, white people didn't oppress black people, the elites did. It doesn't have anything to do with race so much as it does with class. We need to wake up and realize that we are being mislead as to why things are as they are, manipulated in our beliefs and distracted from reality and we need to get out from under the illusion that slavery or oppression is our fault or even the fault of our ancestors as a whole. Not only is this hurting white people, but it is also hurting blacks and other minorities as it hides the real culprits who could care less about our race, whether it be white, black, yellow or brown. We are not going to move forward in the right direction unless we can identify the problems in our trajectory. We need to understand why things were as they were to better understand why things are as they are now. The more we are lead to believe that racism is a problem, the more racist we become and thus the more divided we are. If we are divided, there is absolutely no way that we are going to overcome the dire situation at hand.


I will be back when I have more time...

Thank you,
sofi



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 10:50 AM
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Originally posted by airspoon
The war wasn't about slavery, rather it was about taxes and sovereignty. The North favored taxes that were protectionist in nature, due to it's factories and industrial centers. The South on the other hand was reliant on agriculture and trade (cotton) with Europe so the protectionist tariffs were hurting the South. What didn't help, is a Northern dominated Congress (due to population) that was passing all of the taxes that only benefitted the North, at the expense of the South. The South felt under-represented and were getting the brunt of the taxes with little benefit.


Here are the Declaration of the Causes of Secesssion for four of the Confederate states, just as a sampler (and including the first state to secede - South Carolina)

sunsite.utk.edu...

How many times do forms of these words appear?

Tariff: 0
Taxes: 1
Slave: 74

Unfortunately, the 1 mention of taxes was in this context:


The right of property in slaves was recognized by giving to free persons distinct political rights by giving them the right to represent, and burthening them with direct taxes for three-fifths of their slaves; by authorizing the importation of slaves for twenty years; and by stipulating for the rendition of fugitives from labor.


That's right - even the one reference to taxes was in relation to slavery. So double-FAIL.

And there's this:

teachingamericanhistory.org...


The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution African slavery as it exists amongst us the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the "rock upon which the old Union would split." He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact. But whether he fully comprehended the great truth upon which that rock stood and stands, may be doubted. The prevailing ideas entertained by him and most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old constitution, were that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally, and politically. It was an evil they knew not well how to deal with, but the general opinion of the men of that day was that, somehow or other in the order of Providence, the institution would be evanescent and pass away. This idea, though not incorporated in the constitution, was the prevailing idea at that time. The constitution, it is true, secured every essential guarantee to the institution while it should last, and hence no argument can be justly urged against the constitutional guarantees thus secured, because of the common sentiment of the day. Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the government built upon it fell when the "storm came and the wind blew."

Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth. This truth has been slow in the process of its development, like all other truths in the various departments of science. It has been so even amongst us. Many who hear me, perhaps, can recollect well, that this truth was not generally admitted, even within their day. The errors of the past generation still clung to many as late as twenty years ago. Those at the North, who still cling to these errors, with a zeal above knowledge, we justly denominate fanatics. All fanaticism springs from an aberration of the mind from a defect in reasoning. It is a species of insanity. One of the most striking characteristics of insanity, in many instances, is forming correct conclusions from fancied or erroneous premises; so with the anti-slavery fanatics. Their conclusions are right if their premises were. They assume that the negro is equal, and hence conclude that he is entitled to equal privileges and rights with the white man. If their premises were correct, their conclusions would be logical and just but their premise being wrong, their whole argument fails. I recollect once of having heard a gentleman from one of the northern States, of great power and ability, announce in the House of Representatives, with imposing effect, that we of the South would be compelled, ultimately, to yield upon this subject of slavery, that it was as impossible to war successfully against a principle in politics, as it was in physics or mechanics. That the principle would ultimately prevail. That we, in maintaining slavery as it exists with us, were warring against a principle, a principle founded in nature, the principle of the equality of men. The reply I made to him was, that upon his own grounds, we should, ultimately, succeed, and that he and his associates, in this crusade against our institutions, would ultimately fail. The truth announced, that it was as impossible to war successfully against a principle in politics as it was in physics and mechanics, I admitted; but told him that it was he, and those acting with him, who were warring against a principle. They were attempting to make things equal which the Creator had made unequal.
- Alexander Stephens, Vice-President of the CSA, March 21, 1861


So, even though one of the founders of the CSA said, in a prepared address, that the country was founded upon slavery and the superiority of the white man to the black.

Apparently the revisionists know better than him though.



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by lee anoma
Originally posted by airspoon
Before the 60s, blacks didn't really want to use white facilities and they didn't want whites to use their own facilities. For the most part, people were happy separated, in their own little groups of alike looking and minded people.

What nonsense is this?


I'm guessing that airspoon got his history of racial relations from Song of the South.

In his world, colored folks were perfectly happy with limitations on their natural & civil rights, and then those do-gooder liberals came in and messed it all up.


Zip a dee doo-dah,zip a dee ay
My, oh my, what a wonderful day.
Plenty of sunshine headed my way.
Zip a dee doo-dah,zip a dee ay

Mister bluebird on my shoulder
It's the truth, it's actual.
Everything is satisfactual.

Zip a dee doo-dah,zip a dee ay
Wonderful feelin'.
Wonderful day



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by Asktheanimals
reply to post by TheMalefactor
 


Seriously dude, if you do not care whether or not the election process in America is being done fairly or not then you really shouldn't be using the image of George Carlin as your avatar. I find that in very bad taste, as he truly cared about elections and whether or not we retained our democratic principles.
My apologies to the OP, I'm sorry if this was off-topic.


So the government is always evil, and never just stupid and incompetent?

I'm not sure how you go from this:



5. Touchscreen Voting Machines ... Despite clear, copious evidence that these nefarious contraptions are built to be tampered with, they continue to spread and dominate the voting landscape, thanks to Bush's "Help America Vote Act," the exploitation of corrupt elections officials, and the general public's enduring cluelessness.


There's a big difference between "can be exploited" and "built to be tampered with."


to:


you do not care whether or not the election process in America is being done fairly or not


Subtlety. Learn what it means. Otherwise you'll find yourself doing exactly what airspoon is campaigning against. "Distracting" yourself with things that have nothing to do with the actual problems facing this nation.



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 11:39 AM
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No, you have it wrong. How was slavery the issue of the war, if the North wasn't trying to abolish slavery in the states that already allowed it? Such a notion is ridiculous and Lincoln himself even stated on numerous occasions that he wanted to would easily not tamper with slavery in an effort to end the war. The North, in any real influential manner, was not trying to abolish slavery in the Southern States. Instead, their was an argument against slavery spreading and even that was handled diplomatically. Slavery, wasn't even interjected until the effort on behalf of Lincoln to keep Europe out of the war, over a full year and thousands of lives after the war had begun.

If slavery was any major and direct reason for the war, then why the need for the EP years later? Wouldn't that have been implied by the outbreak of the war? Although we have all been educated (below an advanced level) to believe that the war was about slavery and that slavery was perpetrated by whites, it still doesn't take a scholar to deny the ignorance.


I'm guessing that airspoon got his history of racial relations from Song of the South.

In his world, colored folks were perfectly happy with limitations on their natural & civil rights, and then those do-gooder liberals came in and messed it all up.


No, I got my history from years of research and through the process of denying ignorance. The last sentence in the above quote implies that you didn't even comprehend the argument made by me throughout this thread so I'll try to explain it in a manner much easier to understand.

No body is arguing that blacks didn't suffer or that civil rights weren't trampled. What I am arguing, is that not only isn't it the fault of "whites", but everyone in the same class is in the same boat. Furthermore, things have been exaggerated in a manner to politically exploit racial division. Everyone who isn't the elite had their civil rights violated and still do today. It has nothing to do with whether you are white or black and instead, it has everything to do with what social cast you find yourself in. By pretending that all blacks have it bad by birthright and all whites are born with some special privilege, you are taking the blame away from those guilty and spreading it across an entire race and completely distracting from motive.

Is their really racial separation? Absolutely, though instigated by the indoctrination that we all receive. When you are brainwashed to accept something, you usually do, so long as you lack the ability to think on your own (brainwashing). Racism is bred from the ignorance that is instilled in all of us, stemming first from the indoctrination of a false history that only serves to shift blame.

Were blacks oppressed in the 60s? Absolutely, though due to the slow mechanics of government to reflect the will of the people. Before the 60s, people segregated themselves and when this was challenged, local laws were structured to reflect the stalwart of public opinion. Let me also remind you that these same segregating policies are installed today, though in the reverse. It's all part of the cycle to keep us divided.

Again, nobody is claiming that everyone had it made and imagination was the root of the civil rights movement, though I am claiming it has a much different context that what we are lead to believe, that whites oppress blacks. If that were the case, then where is my silver spoon or special privilege? I have white skin, why didn't my family ever have it easy? Such a notion is ridiculous and the same generalizations made about any other race would be labeled as racist.

You know, I used to suffer from the same ignorance about my own culture. I was raised to believe that Jews were oppressed and that the WWII was about Jewish oppression. I was raised to believe that the Holocaust was about Jewish deaths and we are the ones who suffered. I was also lead to believe, no indoctrinated to believe that anyone who question such stalwarts of thought were anti-semitic and they were questioning such thoughts because they didn't like me for my heritage. I held onto those beliefs so tight because I knew nothing else. It was truly ingrained into my entire belief structure and if that if it was wrong, then my entire belief structure, from love to self esteem would have to be rebuilt. When we are indoctrinated to believe something from birth, we tend to build all other beleifs around and on that foundation, which is why indoctrination is so effective. Whether we want to or not, we naturally resist such notions. It literally blinds us from truth and bonds us to ignorance, without our knowledge that we are even ignorant. It isn't until one has a lot of practice with objective thinking, such as a scientist or unbiased researcher, that one comes to admit (to one's self) that the foundations of our beliefs may be wrong, therefore our entire belief structure has to be reassessed. It isn't easy, though it is ultimately necessary for the denial of ignorance and the realization of truth. I might further add that problems won't solved until you base solution on the truth, otherwise it is only a quick fix that patches a problem temporarily.



--airspoon



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 02:50 PM
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I used to say,
"In my last life I must have been an abusive husband because I am getting paid back, born a woman."

Racism is so distracting but inevitable in this white man's world.

The rest of us are only here as extras, merely to support and do bidding for the pinnacle of creation.




posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 03:16 PM
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Why don't you check out exactly who own BET. You wouldbe suprised. Given equality I think you would find that most good programming is watched across the Board. And don't get me started on the white kids that listen to rap. It was not just emimen or Vanilla Ice!



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 05:28 PM
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Originally posted by mothershipzeta

I'm guessing that airspoon got his history of racial relations from Song of the South.

In his world, colored folks were perfectly happy with limitations on their natural & civil rights, and then those do-gooder liberals came in and messed it all up.



Ever see the movie "Gods and Generals"?

This thread just gave me a flashback to it.

The movie makes slavery, the effects of slavery, and the treatment of slaves a complete non-issue in the Civil War. The way they portrayed things, you'd think the slave and slave-master were just casual friends hanging out at a local pub and having the time of their lives until the evil North got involved.

No mention of the abuses, murders and rapes that were a major part of the life of the American slave. Just Southerners who treated their slaves as decently as paid laborers.

I always thought Roger Ebert summed it up quite well with the opening paragraph of his review:


Here is a Civil War movie that Trent Lott might enjoy. Less enlightened than "Gone With the Wind," obsessed with military strategy, impartial between South and North, religiously devout, it waits 70 minutes before introducing the first of its two speaking roles for African Americans; "Stonewall" Jackson assures his black cook that the South will free him, and the cook looks cautiously optimistic.

If World War II were handled this way, there'd be hell to pay.

- Roger Ebert - Sun Times


Can you imagine such a movie taking on the holocaust in such a manner as to portray the concentration camps as weekend resorts, or simply remove the Jews all together and reduce their suffering to an indifferent cameo in only one scene?

I think not.

- Lee



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 05:53 PM
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Why don't you check out exactly who own BET.


Good point.

I totally forgot about the VIACOM buyout in 2003.
BET is no longer even considered a black-owned business!


In 2003, BET was no longer a black owned business when Viacom bought BET for $3 billion. Wiki


OWNERS OF BET

Philippe P. Dauman



Sumner Redstone



Both are Republicans.
How ironic.


- Lee



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 08:57 PM
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What makes this a white man's world exactly? Care to elaborate?

Last time I checked, being born with pale skin and a pair of testicles did not automatically guarantee success or prosperity.


edit on 17/9/2010 by Dark Ghost because: typo



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