Muslims do NOT care if we burn the Koran! They care about THIS!, page 3
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reply posted on 13-9-2010 @ 08:59 PM by hangedman13
reply to post by muzzleflash


I call you out who does Iraq belong to?? The Kurds were shooting right along side the coalition troops. Ever heard of Kurdistan? wikipedia
Hmm another group displaced by peaceful Arabs. Not to mention your generalizations leave something out. Various groups will play up the US for aid against their enemies. The Kurds have just as much a right to Iraq as the others, yet we hear all about the Arabic Muslims. So watch the real game between the Persians and the Arabs.


reply posted on 14-9-2010 @ 12:07 AM by Enderdog
Originally posted by Holly N.R.A.
Ignorant statement. How many of the hundreds of thousands vets are out there "doing what there capable of"? Out of the 200 hundred something guys I served with in different units. I know of one that commited a murder. But I'm sure your just gonna jump on that and scream "SEE were all killers!"


The ignorant statement is your assumption that I would say..."SEE we're all killers !"

Every Vet that has ever gone to ANY war is damaged one way or another. To what extent, only they know....but they are not their mama's son or daughter anymore, not like they used to be before they went. They are forever changed and need HELP. BTW, I am not just saying it is only Americans...the damage is in EVERY country that has ever gone to war. Murderers, rapists, suicidal...if damaged bad enough...it will show up eventually, and we will never know what will set off the memories that will bring this on.

Just to keep this on subject, as I said before...these damaged people will bring home what they learned in war and none of us in the US or other countries will know when they will snap until we hear about the next cop that goes over the edge with military backround, or the next Fed Ex worker that goes postal...and we find out he was ex-military as well.

It is because of the military and the conditions these people face during a war time situation, that racism against those who are not like you, and some of the crazy breakdowns that happen daily all over the world after the military discharges y'all that EVERYBODY needs to be on the look out for.

The only ones I am blaming for this is the US GOV. for their continuous blindness to a problem they are responsible for.

~holly




Hi Holly,

There is less disagreement here, than one might think. I believe we all agree that Americans are basically good people. And I think we probably can all agree that we have been lied to sometimes. And I think we can agree that there are a few people who are sociopaths. And more than a few who can and have been damaged by war.

I haven't read that far on this thread yet. But, I am impressed thus far, that people on all sides of the issue, seem to be writing out of deep convictions. I can't speak for others. But, as a firefighter, who you referenced in an earlier post, I do want returning veterans as co-workers. Those I know and work with, who have returned from the war, do seem a bit damaged by it. They also seem to me though, to have greater, rather than lesser compassion for their fellow human beings.

It would be great if we all loved each other and got along. That doesn't seem to be the way of our species though, yet. We have the most trained and restrained military in the history of mankind. At any rate....I thought I would post a link to something I belong to, that many of my co-workers belong to...and I hope any military, police or firefighters here will consider joining too. And I hope that it will give you some comfort and optimism about our folks, who are tasked with doing things that no one should have to do, if it were a better world...but, nevertheless do them anyway, until we get there.

Please don't be too hard on the seeming exuberance of people who are put in deadly peril, and may seem a bit too happy at things blowing up. That's a psychological defense mechanism we use. I had an uncle die a couple of years ago. I found out, after he died, that he was the recipient of a Bronze Star for bravery. He had never talked about it. He had killed five German soldiers and called in artillery fire on some Panzer tanks...all due to the fact that he could not take the ribbing his friends had been giving him,for being assigned as intel at the back lines. He had grabbed his rifle, walked off his non-combat job at headquarters, and gone into the field without permission. Then he got caught at the lines, after a fall back. He and one other guy were in a snowy foxhole with a broken radio all night. I'm sure that when the retreat was called, they assumed he was dead. At any rate, those two guys ended up surprising the Germans and entire town was liberated about a week early. He never talked about it. I only know the story because there was a letter to his mom with the medal when we went through his stuff. There were no camcorders back then.

The returning soldiers from WWII didn't go bonkers and destroy the country. Today's soldiers won't either. In fact, they will probably be the protectors and deciders of the future. Uncle Bill was an architect. He designed a great deal of the University of Florida. I'm sure that many of the guys that are now in the #, will return to do good things too. Anyway..here's the link. And another one to a news story about my uncle after he died.

oathkeepers.org...

findarticles.com...


reply posted on 14-9-2010 @ 12:21 AM by neo96
reply to post by muzzleflash


right oh!!!!!

muslims dont care about a dude who threatened to burn a koran- they do and issued death to anyone who does

muslims didnt care about americans being killed in fallujah and their bodies strung up and burned and descrated- acutally they didnt.

muslims didnt care about using women and children as human shields.

muslims dont care about when an american is beheaded.

muslims didnt care bout their women being raped

muslims didnt care about the kurds being gased in the north.

muslims didnt care about saddam planning and trying to murder george bushes father.

muslims didnt care bout saddam invading kuwait and rape and pillage and plunder that country.

muslims didnt care about iran funding training killing americans.

muslims didnt care that foreign fighters came into their country just to kill americans.

muslims didnt care about ieds roadside bombs or motar attacks indiscriminatley just trying to " spray and pray" that they kill any american..

muslims dont care about strapping sucide bomb vests so they can kill americans

muslims dont care about foreign fighters comming to kill americans but which have ended up with iraqi deaths

saddam got what he deserved. its pretty easy to sit back in your safe and sound life and bash your own country which you say you arent but you are.


its pretty obvious that if this was back in the 60s and 70s you would be cheering and siding with the viet-cong

reminds me of hanoi jane...........


all that is your opinion just as there are alot of iraqis that were glad and thankful we came.


i honestly dont care what else you have to say you can have the last word i wont be back.

i am sick and tired of all the hate america threads how evil americans are and never acknowldge the evils of the rest of the world.


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reply posted on 14-9-2010 @ 12:40 AM by DrJay1975
reply to post by muzzleflash


Ahmadinejad really cared about burning the Koran. A major Muslim cleric said Muslims have a duty to "react" if a Koran was burned. THousands of Afghans burned the US flag in protest of the proposed koran bbq. 200 Pakis burned a flag at a protest rally against the koran burning. Pakistan and Bahrain publicly denounced it.

"The headlines in the Muslim world will be that Islam is under attack," said Imam Feisel Abdul Rauf in an exclusive CNN interview, adding that, "if you don't do this right, anger will explode in the Muslim world."

Tons of Muslims openly spoke out against the Koran burning. So saying they aren't pissed about it is errant.

This idiot pastor has 50 folks in his congregation. He has very few people supporting his actions. I hate book burning in any respect. Especially as a publicity stunt.


I have a bigger problem. The people who didn't speak out against the burning of the uS flag. Everyone attacked Pastor Jones for the Koran Burning. And they should have. A lot less said anything about the flag burning. Scumbags. Hypocrisy. More Americans spoke out agianst the Koran burning than Muslims. These same people had nothing to say about burning our flag over what 1 idiot threatened to do. Sad.


reply posted on 14-9-2010 @ 12:58 AM by Maristo316
reply to post by rakkasansct


US support of Israel in their war against the middle east. This is just a continuation.


reply posted on 14-9-2010 @ 02:47 AM by Perseus Apex
reply to post by ManBehindTheMask


I like the 'owl' in your avatar.
I understand they see well into darkness.
Personally, I prefer the twilight.
I believe the theme of it all is what matters,
the Owl truly does know some stories or two.

The Owl stays far from man for good reason.
The Owl is not Mar... fellow.
It's an animal with important symbolic meaning.
I believe some folks have been misled on the topic.
That's all.

Just as chicks follow their Goose, the Goose follows it's chicks.
At some point in time, the chick will say, thanks but no thanks Goose.
.....For you're but good for gander.
and stop making wAves.....


reply posted on 14-9-2010 @ 03:14 AM by donhuangenaro
well, I think muslims care more about this:

link

U.S. soldiers kill civilians for sport and collect body parts as trophies



Soldiers face charges over secret ‘kill team’ which allegedly murdered at random and collected fingers as trophies of war

Twelve American soldiers face charges over a secret “kill team” that allegedly blew up and shot Afghan civilians at random and collected their fingers as trophies.

Five of the soldiers are charged with murdering three Afghan men who were allegedly killed for sport in separate attacks this year. Seven others are accused of covering up the killings and assaulting a recruit who exposed the murders when he reported other abuses, including members of the unit smoking hashish stolen from civilians.

Other soldiers told the army’s criminal investigation command that Gibbs [Staff Sergeant Calvin Gibbs] boasted of the things he got away with while serving in Iraq and said how easy it would be to “toss a grenade at someone and kill them”.


and this is just a tip of the iceberg

killing civilians for fun (and for profit) will not make people love you
just the opposite


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