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Are men becoming more gay and sissified????

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posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 05:24 PM
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I've actually NEVER paseed wind around a girlfriend or female friend.




posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 05:25 PM
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reply to post by sassyncute
 


[sarcasm]What I am getting angry over are all of these opinionated women telling us what they are thinking and not making my sandwich.[/sarcasm]

No really, I need a sammich.



posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 05:26 PM
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I put it to the OP that some women are becoming more manly and I don't like it. OP is a good example.



posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 05:26 PM
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four examples of "metrosexuals" ?:



manly men pictures???


A Mix of Both:



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posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 05:30 PM
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I have to say no.

What is happening is men are finally becoming themselves again.

The super macho attitude is what is fake. It was created by Hollywood.

It only seems 'sissy' because you're used to the perversion of our nature.

I don't understand why there's such a need for these specific gender differences. In America particularly its ridiculous. Just shows how fragmented society has become. And you all think you're free...

And btw it wasn't too many years ago when sweaty gyms were the gay hangouts, 'real' men didn't go near the places.



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posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 05:30 PM
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Originally posted by schrodingers dog

Originally posted by sassyncute

Now we have this stupid word for certain types of men - METROSEXUAL.


1994 called, it wants its colloquialisms back.


The year 1810 called. they want their word "colloquailism" back



First Known Use of COLLOQUIALISM
1810
merriam-webster


but, yes .... i did give that post a star



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posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 05:34 PM
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You're version of "real" men is based on preconceived notions instituted by the religious and conservative mind set of the 1950's plutonic family. Let's go through your list and figure out what "real" men are shall we?


Real Men use a comb through their hair as opposed to metrosexuals who use loads of hair gel and stand in front of the mirror for nine hours a day.


Really? So wanting to look good, is a sign of being less of a man? I would think MOST women would disagree with you.


Real Men are not afraid to fart or burp when needed and even share this triumph with their spouse as opposed to the metrosexual who will hold it till he can run to the little girls room and fart in private.


Where is this metrosexual you speak of? I know quite a few (altough I don't label them as such) and they are just like regular men in that aspect.


Real Men lift weights in a run down gym that smells of piss and puke as opposed to metrosexuals that use spas and nice clean gyms with cardio equipment.


If you are trying to say that where somebody chooses to work out, is a sign of how much of a "man" they are, well, that's just silly.


Real Men take a shower when needed as opposed to metrosexuals who shower fifty five times a day not caring that in Africa a baby may only get one thimble full of water a week.


Did you just try to make me feel guilty cause I take 2 showers a day by telling me that African children cannot do such a thing? Do you eat 3 meals a day? Well you should stop cause African babies can't.


Real Men do not do modeling as opposed to metrosexuals that actually seek out agencies who will to take them on to have semi naked photoshoots.


Real men don't do modeling? Jesus, who were those men who did the liquor commercials and the tabacco commercials and all those other ads you see for "real men" stuff.


Real Men discuss power tools and lifting achievements as opposed to metrosexual who discuss fashion and condom flavors.


Condom flavors? Be careful, your homophobia is showing. Straight men, are straigh men regardless, and just because they don't all ACT the same, doesn't make them any more or less gay than the next guy. And you failed to mention sports, does that mean REAL men don't talk sports?


Real men are tough and don't cry over everything as opposed to sissified men including metrosexuals who cry whenever they get the chance.


Funny how still today being a big rugged and "tough" man is still something people want. Most women would prefer a "sissier" guy, to a limit ofcourse.

I just really don't know what to say about any of this, it's really quite ridiculous if you think about it, all these preconceived notions and labels about how men are "supposed" to act according to society.
Who made these rules? Why are they in effect? Who are inforcing them?

I think everybody is different and we have to treat them as such. You're idea of a REAL man, is your idea, and is not the actual definition of anything other than your opinion.

BTW, your title is amusing. You ask if men are becoming MORE gay, this would imply that ALL men are a little bit gay to begin with....

~Keeper



posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 05:35 PM
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posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 05:41 PM
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Well according to you i'm not a ''REAL'' man!

Do I care? Not really!

Am I a gay in disguise? No, I LOVE and am attracted to women! especially one lady in particular!

Is the world gonna end because men are allowed to cry, show emotion and take care and pride in there appearance in this modern age? Errrrm no!

Good thread!





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posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 05:42 PM
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Macho is all facade anyway.

You could end up with a Mac Truck that has the innards of a Pinto, and a tool kit from a Smart Fortwo (shoe size really is a myth).


This thread is just an example of intolerance.


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posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 05:42 PM
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I work out at home, guys who frequent gyms daily usually are either gay (looking for a group shower), sensitive about their appearance, have a demanding low self esteem, or are just using the gym to cheat on their mates or locate new sexual partners.

Heh...wait...am I projecting my own "opinions" on a grand scale across an entire fraction of people? That can't be right! If I'm doing that- then it must show I have a problem seeing people as something other then "what I perfer them to be". Heck, may as well call me a stereotype-nazi!!!

Look, someone above made a very good point...why are you being so manly and straight forward with your preferences in men?

What ever happened to women shutting up and just cooking, not sharing ideas and allowing men to tell them what is right or wrong? Man...if any women out there are the silent, stay-at-home and behave types- perhaps you should stay that way? Naw...that also sounds like a stupid thing to say.

I'll give you this much- "people" (not just men) are all acting crazy these days. Yes, yes, yes, some men are sissy and some girls are butch.

But the 80s were filled with makeup wearing men with glam-rock hair and tight jeans, while in the 60s women were burning bras and shaving "nothing" of themselves.

Honestly....to me, you sound a little manly...but hey, I like that.

You man sounds a bit insecure...ok, way more then a bit...and heck, if he is that effected by men around him, perhaps he is secretly gay and just wants more "real men" sweating around him in the gym shower?

Lol....honestly...nothing you said her has any weight.

Men have been sissies for decades and have been worse in certain decades then now.

Half the things you credit as being "gay or poofy" is actually just "intelligence or sympathy for real things around them". Caring about the environment, disliking violence or feeling genuine emotion is NOT GAY. And even if it was...heck...what is wrong with that?

You seem to be throwing around speculation due to the fact that younger men no longer resemble the barbarians of your youth or fit your "sexual preferences". Hmmmm....funny how you and your husband are so both obsessed with your "men" not living up to what "you would like to see". Telling...really.

Alls I can tell you is I don't care what you think about men, or women, or how you present your "opinions". Half the stuff your wrote here was overly generalized and worthy of BTS...the rest was either "slightly right" or absolutely silly...

You want men to return to being idiots who grunt and fart...please, be my guest to begin a campaign on spreading that. As for me, I'll remain sleek, deep and doing as I SEE FIT FOR MYSELF, instead of complying with a women who obviously has been brainwashed into thinking "a media published stereotype" is more "acceptable" then another.

You like what the TV told you to like...now the TV tells men to be more sensitive and more hygienic.

Plain and simple...you want apes, I refuse to be one of those creatures. Sorry, I didn't fall for all those testosterone injected "idiot flicks" that made men want to be mindless and dirty.

Anyways...going to the gym is absolutely "fem" and you should keep an eye on where your man's eyes drift when passing the "manly types".

Just my opinion...

ps-Im no girl...I think I can even beat a girl up if I ever learn to stop running away from them. Wanna arm wrestle?



posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 06:00 PM
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One might opine that were your husband a real man, he'd finally put his foot down and you'd be in the kitchen doing something constructive instead of posting anachronistic opinion pieces on the web.
Sure, dinner's ready and the house looks clean, but if you've had a brat on each hip all day, you probably smell like a diaper. Maybe he'd appreciate it if you spent this free time dolling yourself up a bit. Fairies aren't the only ones that benefit from a bit of pampering.



posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by Nventual
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I've actually NEVER paseed wind around a girlfriend or female friend.



Ha Ha! this is exactly what I mean. A "man" can't even say the word fart. He has to use the phrase "passed wind".

What a joke. You see all these Metrosexual are really homosexuals that are just two steps inside the closet!!



posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 06:17 PM
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So many blanket ridiculous stereotypical labels have been thrown around Ats lately

If your a man who takes alittle pride in your appearance you're gay and not a man.
All Muslims are all terriorists. Feminists are hell bent on destroying men and the family. Hipsters are a neocon plot.

What is the fascination with putting people in labels? All these topics are being started by people who have nread an article, gone to wikipedia and are now experts on something they have no idea about and its getting old.
These people just come across as incredibly close minded and living in a VERY small world.


This website is slowly turning into a bastion of hate and I hope the owners are seeing this.


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posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 06:21 PM
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Originally posted by sassyncute

Originally posted by Nventual
reply to post by ljtg123
 


I've actually NEVER paseed wind around a girlfriend or female friend.



Ha Ha! this is exactly what I mean. A "man" can't even say the word fart. He has to use the phrase "passed wind".

What a joke. You see all these Metrosexual are really homosexuals that are just two steps inside the closet!!


Hmmm I don't think anyone is forcing anyone to not say 'fart'.

At one time this would have been called growing up. Do you still giggle when someone 'farts'?

I can see now though you have a problem with 'homosexuals', and your assumption is all gays are 'sissy'. You must live somewhere very isolated.



posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 06:22 PM
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Isn't it funny how all these "men" on here are so up in arms about this post.

All hiding in the closet or waiting to run down to some nancy shop and buy a new sarong or hat!


You "men" are everything that men should not be. Crying online about how the government wants to impose some little sanction and how certain men are secretly trying to take over the world from their underground UFO bunkers.

HAHA!!! Yet when I have a little pic of me in a Nazi dress everyone starts to whine and have it removed not understanding the fact I am (not by choice or not practicing) a born jewish girl.

You men are the problem with the world. You want to take on feminine roles and use feminine products and dance and wear sandals and rejoice at the flowers that bloom. Gay!!

Instead of being a man and doing a real job most would rather go on the Benefits and scrounge. I notice a lot of males unemployed on ATS. I wonder why. Too lazy and too metro to do a proper job.





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posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 06:29 PM
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Originally posted by 23refugee

One might opine that were your husband a real man, he'd finally put his foot down and you'd be in the kitchen doing something constructive instead of posting anachronistic opinion pieces on the web.
Sure, dinner's ready and the house looks clean, but if you've had a brat on each hip all day, you probably smell like a diaper. Maybe he'd appreciate it if you spent this free time dolling yourself up a bit. Fairies aren't the only ones that benefit from a bit of pampering.


Actually he is a real man. He is a semi pro power lifter and does a proper mans job. He used to work on the North Sea oil rig and now owns a large construction company. I work professionally but I have my place in the home and still do the cooking and the laundry and still find time to workout and do girly things. My husband would never go on the "Dole" in England because he is a man and not a free loader. I am a trust fund brat as most will know from my previous posts so yes we do not have the same problems some do, but we each have a place in our marriage and it is traditional. That is why we work togehter and that is why it worked for many years for a lot of couples in the old days.

Now with all these girly men not being able to hold down a job and crying about UFO's and government cover ups (which will always happen no matter how many of you whine) fashion idols and pop stars, there is a huge divorce rate in the US and now England is following.

Men need to be men and lead by example. To much hair gel and too many hours dancing to some boy band. Too gay. Even Gay men seem more manly these days than your average man. Well they seem the same as these "normal" men.


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posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 06:32 PM
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LOL all you have just done is prove us all correct.

You base your world, and ATS, view on nothing but wild assumptions.

You are no better than these people you call 'sissies', and you're no better than anyone in this thread.

How do you know who is unemployed and why? And why do you assume because we disagree with you we must also be 'metro', or 'sissy', or whatever? Why is it people feel they have to hate everything they don't like, and if someone doesn't hate something they must support it, or be it?

I don't post in the UFO forum and I am ex-US Navy jet engine mechanic, is that 'manly' enough for you lol?


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posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 07:11 PM
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Yup, you're homophobia is showing. I don't know why you didn't reply to my earlier post, perhaps cause you could not formulate a sentence on this topic without using labels or personal opinion instead of facts.

In any case, you've proved yourself to be unfit to discuss such a topic. You have far too many preconceived notions that you are unable or unwilling to look past in order to have an intelligent and open ended discussion.

You realize that it's people who speak like yourself, who are always the ones to make the world worse right?

With their blanket statements, preconceived notions and un-educated opinions.

If you have any facts to add to the conversation, that aren't one of the above, please share them. Other than that, don't expect any of us to take you seriously, as you surely do not.

~Keeper



posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 07:25 PM
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More garbage from this person. I have NO interest in you or your opinion. Your analysis is pure wrong in all aspects.

Your analysis is so pathetic is embarrassing.

My homophobia. So what. I dont have to agree with things I KNOW are wrong. Here we go people who do not like gays are homophobic. I dont care. Gays and religion are both two things I do not like. But this thread was not about gays but about men. *SNIP* You know the type I suspect. It just so happens these men and gay men have a lot in common.

Only the closet gay will feel offended by this post!!! Are you lot offended? Yes because you have reverted to saying I should make sandwiches and be in the kitchen. I do agree with that to some extent. We have roles. Now on the other hand most of the men on here that are unemployed is because they are lazy and useless. Scrounging off the state instead of being REAL men and taking any job to make ends meet till the hard times pass. LAZY and metro. too busy worrying about scarves and hairlines.

Ah I noticed you are from Canada. I did mention a canadian city in my original post. Must be gay to quote homophobia. How typical of you!!








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