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Originally posted by Sinter Klaas
reply to post by TarzanBeta
Here is one with little fish.
Actually we are talking here about speciation , but it is the start. A wedge that causes this species to walk a different path.
There are more, but I'm busy so maybe later.
To anyone with a mind of reason, it is OBVIOUS that there is an All-Powerful Force Beyond Nature. From what did all things come if there is not?
You should be careful to claim that there is evidence to support the idea of Macro-evolution, because there isn't...Micro-evolution is fact... just see how man manipulated the dog from the wolf, for an example.
"A speck of polonium in molten rock can be compared to an Alka-Seltzer dropped into a glass of water. The beginning of effervescence is equated to the moment that polonium atoms began to emit radiactive particles. In molten rock the traces of those radioactive particles would disappear as quickly as the Alka-Seltzer bubbles in water. But if the water were instantly frozen, the bubbles would be preserved. Likewise, polonium halos could have formed only if the rapidly "effervescing" specks of polonium had been instantly encased in solid rock."
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
However, atheism and evolution are mutually exclusive, which will bring me to my next point (yep, I was expecting this)
5: Evolution isn't something for atheists, it's something for everyone.
A belief in the divine and a belief in evolution are not irreconcilable, a great examp'le of this would be Kenneth Miller, the witness for the evolution side in the Kitzmiller v Dover Board of Education case. He believes in a deity but is a biology professor who is also a Roman Catholic.
Here's a video from him.
As I said before, evolution is only concerned with what happened the second life arose. It doesn't matter how it arose or whether or not there is a spiritual being involved, it simply deals with how that life progressed into the myriad of forms now found in the world, and there is a lot of hard evidence to support it.
Originally posted by type0civ
The title to this thread offered proof as to ID being wrong, yet the opening article only attempted to show the holes in ID arguments.
The fact is, there are no identifiable animals in transition or obviously evolving today.
Why? Have we all hit a brick wall? Have we all evolved to perfection?
I came across a thread here once with some interesting info such as DNA losing info over time.(Suggesting we're devolving?)
And also a comparison of ours and our closest ape ancestors DNA which shows we have two fewer pairs, but it looked like two pairs of ours were actually fused, suggesting we're genetically modified or Intelligently Designed.
Originally posted by DizzyDayDream
The fact that i can easily scrub out the "A" in "Atheism" under the mountain in your avatar, making the logic just as applicable for my beleifs as it is for yours with the "a", surely shows you have not only misrepresented the creationist view, it also shows that you have too poorly understood your own view.
Get that? good, God.
ETA: this is probably the only time you will ever encounter me using the term God. I find it has too many ridiculous connotations, and has been hijacked throughout the ages by false prophets.
and btw, spiritualists understand that science has a place, post intention, whereas religion has its place as a cause of all universal intention. Because intention is the prime mover. You know, just before the energy enters our dimension conforming to the scientific laws governing our universe, before existance, dimensionless eternal energy, dissipated downwards into fractalised infinity we call the universe or multiverses whatever that means. Your right we can never truly know, but we all have a right to be mystified by the mere fact that we even exist at all, let alone in the beautiful way we do on this planet.
as that being is infinitely more complex than us and couldn't have possibly arisen from natural causes if we couldn't have.
Evolutionary theory is simply concerned with what happens after life begins, not with anything before that.
You seem to have a lot of FAITH and a strong BELIEF in athiesm
Notice the connection
Originally posted by seagull
I can not, for the life of me, understand why people think this is such an important issue. Science has its place, as does faith/religion.
"a true 'Theory of Everything', a cross between John Archibald Wheeler's 'Participatory Universe' and Stephen Hawking's 'Imaginary Time' theory of cosmology." In conjunction with his ideas, Langan has claimed that "you can prove the existence of God, the soul and an afterlife, using mathematics."