Originally posted by DISRAELI
Originally posted by Gaussq
There is no relevance for Falun Dafa here. FD is about being righteous,
In that case why does he tolerate wholesale theft?
Because the disciples of Falan Dafa are outright thieves,
Yes, my friend, I have caught you red-handed trying to steal the scriptures of another religion and use them for your purposes.
The fundamental dishonesty of this procedure is a symptom of the fundamental dishonesty of Falun Dafa.
If Falun Dafa produces dishonest people, it must be no good, yes?
edit on 16-9-2010 by DISRAELI because: (no reason given)
Some of your comments are insulting and I will not comment on those. I wish you are a good person and have a kind heart and I respect you no matter
what you say to me.
Revelation is a prophecy for the world to read(as is said in Revelation, each soul reading that scripture is lucky), not only for people who "brand"
themselves Christians and superior to others.
Worldly brands and lipworks count for nothing in heaven, only actions count as far as I know. Imagine I had called myself a Christian today but it
would not make me a better, more wise person, would it?
Can Gods not understand these things? Is that what you say? In that case your faith in Gods is corrupt.
In essence you say Jesus is a paralysed God and has done nothing to help us humans during 2000 years when we destroyed his teachings.
Is that good faith in Jesus?
Jesus is slanderred every day across the whole world and you believe he could do nothing for 2000 years, not even telling people once how they all got
Which kind of faith is that? Is it not typical lipworks faith(you say you believe in Jesus but has no belief at all in his powers) without any common
sense or wisdom?
Is your faith not poor in Jesus? Is it not such erroneous lipworks faith that Jesus said must be destroyed at Judgment Day?
Let´s look at this from the other standpoint.
If Jesus is a good and mighty God would he not like to tell the world truth about the corrupted Christian Church and its coming downfall at Judgment
Of course he wanted to and he did.
Below follows a short verse about the end of the modern clergy and the Christian Church as we know it.
Also how some modern Christian theologists claim they and only they can interpret the Bible. As if they are of a higher intellectual capacity or
wisdom than the rest of the world, as if they just put a label on themselves saying"I call myself a Christian expert and therefore only I can
understand the scriptures".
Is that true faith? Is that tolerance and kindness to other people? Is that a humble attitude? Is that signs of a good person with wisdom?
In my opinion, lipworks count for nothing in heaven, only your actions count.
You believe Revelation can be "stolen" but in fact Revelation exists for those who can enlighten to truth in time. If they call themselves
"Christians" or not is completely irrelevant, as we will see below.
Let us see what Jesus says to Swedenborg about Matthew and the end of your modern Christian Church and their theologists:
"True Christian Religion - excerpt"
(8) So, too, unless a new heaven and a new church were established by the Lord there could no flesh be saved. It is said in Matthew: Then shall be
great tribulation, such as hath not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days be shortened no flesh
would be saved (24:21, 22). This chapter treats of "the consummation of the age," by which the end of the present church is meant; therefore "to
shorten those days" means to bring that church to an end and establish a new one.
Who does not know that unless the Lord had come into the world and wrought redemption no flesh could have been saved? To work redemption means to
found a new heaven and a new church. That the Lord would again come into the world He foretold in the Gospels, Matt. 24:30, 31; Mark 13:26; Luke
12:40; 21:27; and in the Apocalypse, particularly in the last chapter.
That He is also effecting a redemption at this day by founding a new heaven and establishing a new church to the end that man may be saved, has been
shown above in the chapter on Redemption.  The great mystery that unless a new church is established by the Lord no flesh can he saved, is this:
That so long as the dragon with his horde remains in the world of spirits into which he has been cast, no Divine truth united to Divine good can pass
through that world to men on earth without being perverted and falsified, or without its perishing.
This is what is meant in the Apocalypse by the words: The dragon was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Woe to those that
inhabit the earth and the sea, for the devil has come down unto them having great anger (12:9, 12, 13).
But when the dragon had been cast into hell (10:10), John saw a new heaven and a new earth, and he saw the New Jerusalem coming down from God out
of heaven (21:1, 2); "the dragon" meaning those who are in the faith of the present church.
In the spiritual world I have several times talked with those who believe that men are justified by faith alone; and I have told them that their
doctrine is both erroneous and absurd, and induces upon men security, blindness, sleep, and in spiritual things a night, and consequently death to the
soul; and I have exhorted them to discard it; but I received the answer, "Why discard it?
Does not the superiority of the learning of the clergy over that of the laity hang upon that sole doctrine?" I replied, "In that case they do
not regard the salvation of souls as any object, but the superiority of their own reputation; and as they have adapted the truths of the Word to their
false principles, and have thus adulterated them, they are those angels of the abyss, called Abaddons and Apollyons (Apoc. 9:11), who signify those
that destroy the church by a total falsification of the Word."
But they made answer, "What do you mean? By our knowledge of the mysteries of that faith we are oracles, and from it as from a sanctuary we give
responses; therefore we are not Apollyons but Apollos." Indignant at this reply I said, "If you are Apollos you are also leviathans - your leaders
the crooked leviathans, and the rest of you the stretched-out leviathans, whom God will visit with His sore and great sword" (Isa. 27:1). But at this