reply to post by Greensage
I believe you have a logical error at the core of your thinking that I suggest you analyze.
You argue that we should be 'forced' by some coercive entity to 'better ourselves', or at least maintain ourselves. You assume that people are unable
to look after themdselves, but i site our existence and counter evidence. We are here. The state does not force me to brush my teeth. No one makes
me aquire food to sustain my life. I have a roof over my head that was not susidised by government. In short I, and most of us somehow live and
thrive without a Big Brother feeding and clothing us.
Some are unable to do this, of course. Humanitarians will always voluntarily pick up the slack of their own free will for those who cannot feed or
clothe themselves. No force is needed for a charity to provide beds, for parents to take care of the handicapped, ect. But the majority of humans
are able to sustain their own lives without handouts from an entitiy that robbed its funds from everyone. In short, we humans always build towards a
non survival situation - thats the point of society, Force in the form of government is not needed for human beings to survive.
You assume (your post is full of assumtions, which i hope you would analyze) that people *want* to be looked after by and inpersonal entity from
cradle to grave. For 'Big Brother' to provide for all their health care, old age and unemployment needs. And many do! Just as a black slave would
hope to be cared for by his master after his usefulness has waned, people raised by the state expect the recources they are forced to give up to be
spent wisely and in the best interest of their long term survival.
Ask the Greek how thats working out. 70%+ taxation, and suddenly theyre told 'no pensions for you!' Coming to a country near you inevitably.
You see these people who you entrust to look after us all will always look after themselves first. And since you dont see them for what they are, as
violent predators, you nievely give up over half your earnings to them, desperately hoping that they have it all under control and will act
benevolently, even when we know the corrupting effect of power.
So you would in effect give almost all your money away (almost all of it when inflation is considered) desperately hoping for a solution. Sadly, imo,
hoping that if you give the gun to the right group of humans, and beg them to point it at the right group of other humans, hopefully you can live out
your years in peace. But it doesnt work like that! Of course it doesnt! Would you be happy if the mafia came to you and demanded over half your
income, promising 'protection' in return?! Of course you wouldnt! But the government, well, they wear big hats and instead of street thugs they have
thugs in suits who give you the appearance of ligitimacy,
So you hope to control others because youre deeply insecure and afraid, so you give your power, energy and sanction to a dangerous group of
psychopaths who say all the right things but only desire to milk you for all your worth. And when your milk runs dry, and you have nothing left to
take, they send you to the slaughterhouse to extract your very body for whatever they can get.
Do you see how this course of action is illogical and actually is the opposite of what you wanted to achive in the first place?
edit on 12-9-2010 by Neo_Serf because: (no reason given)