Feminism: Destroying the Male and Female Relationship

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posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 06:07 PM
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The root cause of this situation is USURY [money lending] which to be blunt is obviously a system of man eating man CANNIBALISM if not also VAMPIRISM. My opinion is that we are not able to change this unfortunate affliction. We are trapped in this Nightmare of Hell. Not even death will be the end of our sufferings. What we all want is to be able to enjoy a comfortable life with out having to get it by hurting anyone. The only way out of this hellish conflict of interests is to seek salvation in the Holy Spirit of God the Absolute. By the power of Almighty God we can receive salvation through REINCARNATION into a more auspicious circumstance. Not just a reincarnation into a rich family. That is not what I mean. What I suggest is that the root cause of the problem is masculinity, it being at root caused by the Male Gamete, the Mark of the Beast also called the Yeast of the Pharisees, which is constantly the cause of cancer, and thus mental retardation. Brain damage which prevents this world of men from being the SOCIALIST UTOPIA that we would all like it to be. Thus I point you towards the PARTHENOGENESIS of the realms angelic where in masculinity does not exist. Thus in the realms angelic we are liberated from the sex and drugs and violence that men create in their desire to satisfy the desires of the Male Gamete that inhabits every cell of their body. I point you towards THE WAY OF HEAVEN [ChienTao] so that when you die you will be happy to be entering into the CELESTIAL IMMORTALITY of the angels. If we trust in violence to be our security then how can we say that we trust in God to be our security ? PEACE is a gift of God to whom so ever she please to give it, or not as the case may be. I recommend that you try to read THE HOLOGRAPHIC UNIVERSE by author MICHAEL TALBOT published by HARPER COLLINS > ISBN 0-586-09171-8. Amazon Books DO FOR OTHERS AS YOU WOULD LIKE OTHERS TO DO FOR YOU. The law that I live by and which is holding us all bonded is called PRAECEPTAE CAELENIUM(tm). I did not read it in a book. You will not find it in any book. It was revealed to me by audio clairvoyance during the celebrations of the New Millennium in 2000. Summed up it basically means no sex no drugs and no violence. (1) From eternity to eternity, infinity to infinity, there be the one absolute. The One God there be no other God. Her names are many but she be the one true God. The one judge there be no other judge. (2) La deus nostra, notre dame, our lady, The holy spirit, the cause the maker Cosmica. (3) Angelic powers of truth and beauty and righteousness be sure to be loving her above with all your mind and with all your heart and with all your strength. (4) So as to be pleasing to her above therefore do not be serving the masculine. (5) Do not be and do not allow masculinity into positions of government. (6) Honour and respect the virgin pureness of the christae. (7) Honour and respect the Immaculate Conception reproductive process of the christae. (8) Do not fornicate or adulterate or sodomize. (9) Do not bully or torture or murder. (10) Do not lie. (11) Do not steal. (12) Do not be covetous. (13) Do not be jealous. AVE RAEGINA CAELINA LA DEUS NOSTRA CAELI LA VERA DEUS (tm) SHIMONO




posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 06:25 PM
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I read a lot of the material on that man's website several months ago, and I can honestly say I agree with most of his observations and conclusions about women and the impact of feminism. It made me cry, because I deeply identify with everything that is wrong with women today. I contemplated trying to recondition myself, learn to be a real woman again, and to keep up a blog about the process, but I don't even know where to start.

When I was growing up, I was always told "women can be anything they want, follow your dreams, you can achieve whatever you desire". What I wasn't told was that becoming a mother was almost a certainty. What I really wish I'd been told is that it's OKAY to be a mother. That it's respectable. That mothers are valuable and their children are a worthy contribution to society.

I couldn't bring myself to have an abortion. I didn't want to give my kids up for adoption. I don't intend to send them to day-care or school to be raised by strangers. I believe I should be responsible for them, because whatever they do, good or bad, over the course of their lives will be largely a result of their upbringing.

Still, I have a VERY hard time accepting this role as the purpose of my life. I feel like a failure. I feel like I was expected (especially by other women in my life) to achieve more, to be a better example of "womankind". I feel pressured to send the kids off to school and get a "real job"... for a while I was freelance writing from home and I was really proud of that, but still I was encouraged by female friends and family members to do less for my kids and more for money.

I don't really know what being "feminine" means. I think there is supposed to be something divine about being a woman... something more than shopping, watching soap-opera-like shows, wearing make-up and revealing your lady-like parts to the world. I really don't know what to tell my daughter.

(The above are my personal experiences and feelings. Whether they are symptoms of mental illness or a fundamentally sick society, talking crap to me is pointless, I can't hate myself any more than I already do. Thanks for understanding.)



posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 06:31 PM
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Mid 20s now.

There is no skill involved. I got laid on a greyhound bus once for crying out loud. I don't think she's less of a person, I don't think less of her, she was great and it was a lot of fun. We were upfront with each other though. There wasn't anything more going on then the exchange of fluids.

The problem is when they lie, when they cheat, and when they under take actions that hurt their significant other deeply. A woman doesn't want to be with me because she thinks I am too aggressive? That's fine, but what reason is there to put my dog down on her way out? She doesn't like the fact that I don't have enough money to buy her a 2010 Dodge Challenger? That's fine, but why tell me my limp makes me a complete embarrassment as the reason behind her making out with the bartender at the club she invited me to?

If women want to be honest with me I don't have a problem. It's the trifling trash they pull for reasons I can't comprehend that drives me nuts. But, that isn't the point I was making....

My point is that I believe women do these things because of a self fulfilling prophecy. I believe this is a byproduct of the feminist movement.



posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by subterranean
This is just about the dumbest article I've ever seen.

Henry Makow is insane. He believes in a global satanic agenda guided by masonic Jews and proudly quotes from the "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" on his idiotic web page. It's no surprise this fool despises female liberation.

Makow: "In the past, men had to prove their love and commitment before they could have sex. As a result, women were cherished and given a lifelong role (mother, wife) that satisfied their deepest emotional needs."

This is a guy with mental problems who fears sex.

For more wisdom on women see his book, "A Long Way to go for a Date."
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA


I doubt that you are old enough to have lived in the time that this was true!

I have!

I saw feminism come to the forefront and hated the idea, and now I know what has been behind the world going he** in a hijacked 747.

Illuminati Zionists



posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 06:51 PM
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Some men past and present I believe are mean and have treated their
wives as something they own instead of a partner. I've experienced this
as a house wife. It became a situation where I was stuck in the house,
he didn't want me to go anywhere, and I think he felt his role as bread
winner was more valuable because I didn't pay bills. But he didn't have
to cook, clean, wash clothes; all the stuff I wish I had someone to do for me
now.

I think some men get arrogant and should recognized that being a home
maker is just as important as working a 9-5. Now all he wants is his wife back
but darn it I'd rather work hard than deal with someone who doesn't recognize
a woman's worth.

Back in the day before women's lib if a woman's husband died she wouldn't inherit
his property. The next male heir would. The right to vote was denied, and haveing 15 children
year after year was probably what spurred women fighting for their rights. I believe today
men and women need to repair our issues so we can save our society. This thread is stupid
cause it's pointing the finger in one direction when men need to self examine why women would
abandon such a good setup in the first place. All I ever wanted was white pickett fence kids and a husband
to take care of me and for me take care of him and to be sweet to him. But contol freaks run the world.



posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 06:56 PM
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With a strong FATHER influence, most of the crap in the article WOULD NOT be going on. This is a direct result of media.

"If I blow Timmy, he'll like me." Horse crap. The "sexual revolution" helped with that. Hell, nowadays kids get knocked up and neither the boy nor the girl has any shame.

"Oh, we'll just have a happy family"...horse crap. Abuse and divorce are usually just down the road.

These stupid "teen aged and knocked up" shows are helping to fuel this fire. They make it acceptable.

My 11 year old daughter was at some friends house and saw one of these stupid shows. She saw one where the girl and boy gave the baby up for adoption. Good going on their part.

Then wanted it back.

We saw a mag at the store and she told me the back story. I told her that had they been careful (and the boy given a rats ass about the girl) it wouldn't have been an issue. They were stupid. The baby now has to pay for it...and the adoptive parents (unless its all bull crap for "reality tv"...I wonder sometimes).

Teenagers have been shagging each other since they could shag. Its not gonna stop. In the past, you got married (maybe at shotgun point) and made the best of it. With birth control, the guy should care about the welfare of the girl (and she about herself!). Its not rocket science.

No, the PTB want the family destroyed. Its working pretty damn well it seems.

Do any of you remember your 45 steps to communism?

Note 16 17 18 20 21 25,26 40 41.

To 99.9%, these are all in place.

Here you go as a reminder.

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16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.


20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.



40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.



I believe that men and women should promote each other. We both have roles. Its not all bad if they meld some.

I come home, cook, help the wife with the kid, help with laundry and general stuff. I figure she's as tired as I am and if we BOTH do it, it'll be done faster and we can both pass out earlier....or do other things


*Dont tell my wife, but I think I'm a better cook!
Shes not bad, I'm just better!!!!

Do I wish I could make the money so that my wife could stay home with the kid? yes. I cant though. She even misses it. When we first decided to get pregnant, we set up ground rules. She had hers, I had mine and we compromised. My only one was that she stay home for the first five years (if possible). She did. And the kid was commented on about this. When I would get home from work, I took over baby duty (and baby "doodie" LOL). She rested. During the week nights, she got up with the baby. Weekends? She was told to sit on her ass and rest (she wouldnt!) and let me help. We were and are (15 years this next month!!!!!) a team. And bullet proof!

Our daughter wasnt like most toddlers. She addressed adults (respectfully) directly. She asked permission. She offered to help when possible. We had to watch ourselves in our expectations. She was so much more "mature", we have to remember her age. We thought she was "normal" until someone new came round and commented. I guess we did something right


We are bringing her up strong (like her mother
).

She can appreciate men but will not need them to validate her.

She will be able to work with a man but not depend on him.

She will walk beside a man, neither behind nor before...And expect him to do likewise.

I see the little mindless "hotties" on TV and I think, "darlin, your smokin right now but when your old, wrinkled, and still dumb as a rock....what good would it have done ya?"

The boys? They are getting more effiminate daily. The wuss's from that vampire show? I'm gonna hurl. I keep waiting to see which comes out of the closet first.

Men are not portrayed as much of anything good either. No good role models like John Wayne or the like. Just mindless, little girlie boys.







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posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 06:59 PM
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Originally posted by rusethorcain
reply to post by AzoriaCorp
 


Highly offensive, simplistic and part of someones opinionated and not so scientific nor even sentient blog.
Someone with an axe to grind no less.

I wonder where these people come from?
Some cryonics subjects from the 40's thawing out?

The pill changed everything. Get used to it.

edit on 12-9-2010 by rusethorcain because: I spelled "and" wrong if you must know.



That is your simplistic and non scientific opinion. I however happen to agree with the poster



posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 07:00 PM
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Originally posted by soleprobe

Originally posted by whaaa
This thread wouldn't even exist if more men really knew how to treat women


I find general accusations from individuals towards entire groups to be weak and cowardly … Those who do so I consider to have weak arguments and poor debating abilities because they know they’ll get plastered all over the board if they accuse an individual head on.


How is this about the topic?

Perhaps a reading of this might help you get back on track and avoid ole number 4 in the future.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I love Feminists and am not threatened by them in the least.



posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 07:13 PM
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Originally posted by soleprobe
reply to post by witness63
 

When ever I see a post get three stars within one minute, before three posters even have the chance to read and digest what's being said...I know it's a collaborated farce



Not by me. I post what I think and people can react to it as they see fit.



posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 07:24 PM
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People are people. people are equal. Different people have different skills above this equality line. Some women are stronger than some men, though overwhelmingly this is not true. Doesn't change equality. Just means different people are capable of different skills and abilities. I can't give birth, for example. Nobody is better or worst. There are generalizations, but equality still remains true.

If you reject that I don't honestly give a damn.



posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 07:33 PM
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Women wonder why average men have a lacking respect for women in America; and men wondering why relations with sluts are a waste of time; in which seem to consequently prove their overall fabricated perceptions, when real, loving, caring, self respecting women would not allow such disrespect through casual sex and acts thereof.
In conclusion, men and women need to start free thinking for themselves by not believing and conforming to the fabricated fears of media and pop culture. Men and women need to start assessing their own situations and interactions with eachother instead of acting on fears that were instilled by their peers.


Personally, I have no desire to try and out do my husband, or prove my strengths to him. He knows them. I have no problem with that. I like my chosen place in life, at his side. We walk together in life, not one in front of the other but as equals. We respect one another. He sees me as stronger than him, being I gave birth. He treats me like a lady, but doesn't treat me as if I am weak. He comes to me for most all the decision making because he respects my intelligence. I feel lucky to be in the relationship that I have. I just don't desire to go out into the world and break glass ceilings, yet I have nothing against women who want that for themselves. My sister is one who prefers no children, no husband, and enjoys her single lifestyle. More power to her. It is all about choice now and I am glad women have it. I don't want to see our country dialed back to the 50's where women were expected to stay home with the children.

I want to be treated like a lady, and my husband likes it because I act like one.


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posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 07:47 PM
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Who knew so many men hated feminism so much


Seriously though, there is no global ideology for feminism. There are hundreds of different ideas on it, many different philosophers, many different groups. And from the looks of this thread, nothing's changed much.



posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 07:50 PM
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Also: what about male "sluts?" Plenty of those around, y'all have to admit.
Is that bad, too?
Or is that only vaginas must be sealed off and well-behaved?

Good behavior and bad behavior - I don't see how that is an issue which is gender-specific.
If you're trash, then you're trash, whether y'all got a penis or a vagina..



posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 07:53 PM
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Where white man went wrong


www.businesspundit.com...



posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 08:04 PM
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The result of WWII males going to war, caused women to leave home and work, also there was a reduced number of males, as they were fighting.

Feminism, as a movement has weakened the traditional cohesive family unit: dad, mom kids.

During the era of WWII the five most important influences on the life of a kid and the formation of a childs values were from top to bottom in importance of influence
1. family
2. church
3. school
4. friends
5. media

today the reverse is true, as the most important influenc on children is
1. media
2. friends
3. school
4. church
5. family.

feminists reject the traditional and highly successful model of family, and this has resulted in the absence of males in the home.

lack of male in home causes mom to raise children alone, and she muust be both mom and dad.
as a result the child are confused and if a young male he loses respect for mom/women.
if a girl, she sees mom with several different men and models that behavior.

the boys as a result have no respect for women, and girls have no respect for men.



posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 08:05 PM
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Originally posted by 2weird2live2rare2die
i agree. women in america live in some kind of sex in the city fantasy world. they think they are so special when they don't realize they got the same busted a$$ as all the other women out there do. it isn't special or unique, it's the same thing every other skank has.
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Not all women. There are plenty of women who enjoy their monogamous relationships, staying at home, tending to the house and children. Even one of the characters in Sex and the City has that. The show is silly to me anyway. It's fluff entertainment that is not always grounded in reality.

The interesting thing about my lifestyle, is that I am sometimes mistaken for being a very right wing religious conservative, because I tend to dress feminine and I like to stay at home raising my child. But I follow the red road.

What has angered me in the past is when I encounter people who think that I don't do anything in my life because I choose to stay at home and raise my child. Women who choose this path are often seen as ignorant, weak, small minded, or not ambitious. All I can say is, never judge a book by it's cover.



posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 08:06 PM
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these are the same people who are trying to destroy the same foundations of a family structure.

these are the people who believe there is nothing to learn from the bible.

although i do believe most religions are just corrupting peoples minds these days, the word of god does have many things that we can learn from.

TPTB have their little scheme of destroying any possible way of people being holy, of familys being started & of stopping the human race from continuing.

quite sickening, were back to a sodom & gomorrah type society.


the creator of the universe has a place for their eternal dwelling.



posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 08:11 PM
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Sometimes off base?

Look -- Madow is just the latest in a long line of men who have been "slut-shaming" every woman they can't personally control since the dawn of time. Madow will never take responsibility for his own failings: Perhaps he isn't funny enough, or hard working enough, or at least not hard working in the way that women generally approve of in their men? Perhaps all of his hand-rubbing, cackling laughter and barely disguised enthusiasm for death and punishment and tradition and conspiracy, is just a little off-putting to the fairer sex? Maybe he just doesn't "do anything" for them? I mean -- what woman wouldn't LEAP at the chance to sit quietly, knitting, while her new beau puts the finishing touches on his unibomber manifesto? It must be the women! They are the ones to blame!

The joker makes the same blunder entire societies make when they get their rear ends kicked in the marketplace. We've been beat! We must return to the moral center of our forefathers! God forgive us! The problem is never that the other guy planned better, innovated more, was gutsier, and less afraid to make his move when the time came. No -- the problem is ALWAYS a moral failing, and the women are usually the first to feel the "righteous judgment" of the lord, in order to purify themselves for this glorious return to "traditional moral values."



posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by rusethorcain
reply to post by AzoriaCorp
 


Highly offensive, simplistic and part of someones opinionated and not so scientific nor even sentient blog.
Someone with an axe to grind no less.

I wonder where these people come from?
Some cryonics subjects from the 40's thawing out?

The pill changed everything. Get used to it.

edit on 12-9-2010 by rusethorcain because: I spelled "and" wrong if you must know.



The truth hurts doesn't it?
Sounds to me like someone is threatened by reality and doesn't want the rest of the world to know the true plan of feminists. Not just one mans opinion.....now there is two and I have a lot of male friends that feel the same way. The opinion turns into a truth when it is happening to you as a man.....no one expects women to understand, Women aren't the ones being attacked by hateful females who have the courts in their favor SIMPLY because of this very feminist movement. But then, no one expects you to understand. Unless you have been taken to court by a woman who you were married to, who left the state you were living in to go crying to her mother (on a plane) every time you had an argument, gotten cheated on by her several times and then when YOU, as a man, asked for a divorce, got taken to court to have to have your case presided by a woman judge who gave the cheating wife everything you owned except a box of old books as well as full custody of your child, limited rights for YOU, concerning the child, an unreasonable monetary amount of child support so you can't even support yourself, all the while thinking of new and innovative ways to screw you further to punish you for not letting her do what she wanted in the marriage. Do you understand now what men are going through these days? I DIDNT THINK SO. It doesn't fit into your plan of getting everything handed to you by the government with a silver spoon. Women are the only ones who can use their sexuality as an ace card and still try to compete equally with men. Gee I wonder who will get the jobs that we are all competing for? Even MSNBC admitted on the air that women are doing far better than men in the recession regarding jobs by something like 21%. Men are waking up though. I have preached on this site for over 8 years now on this subject and I got mocked and argued with by women like you. I am finally glad to see this on the front page of ATS.It means that men are waking up and now all we have to do is cry like babies and picket in the streets threatening to cry more ......then maybe we can, once again, have something to go our way.

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posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 08:29 PM
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Originally posted by rusethorcain
reply to post by AzoriaCorp
 


Highly offensive, simplistic and part of someones opinionated and not so scientific nor even sentient blog.
Someone with an axe to grind no less.

I wonder where these people come from?
Some cryonics subjects from the 40's thawing out?

The pill changed everything. Get used to it.

edit on 12-9-2010 by rusethorcain because: I spelled "and" wrong if you must know.



If you can get over the title, and just read what they wrote, then you would see that it isn't bashing anything except the way feminism has changed things for the worse.. It does not say that feminism is all bad, but they way it has been used in America is just wrong......

Feminism isn't for equal rights though.......and that is it's biggest flaw.......





 
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