I am struck with a certain dilemma, it is a tricky one and it bothers me profoundly,
now just to put it out there so there are no preconceived notions about me,
i am pro elitist,
pro new world order,
i do not work for them, my reasons for supporting them are my own logical decisions, and yes i have explored many different perspectives and at this
time in my life i have chosen that as the one that is right for me,
so off hand lets not make this about the above,
my main issue is that many threads i see are either about or have some posters who push this "law of one" or "oneness" ideology,
summed up it basically -
We are all of ONE some sort of universal consciousness that is ultimately good and aspires and bases itself off of some sort of idea that is
so many times ill be reading a thread, most usually the topic will relate to religion, and someone will come on with a post like this:
All religions come together in the one true religion, we are all one, bask in the love of the eternal consciousness, that is the only truth.
now i have a few problems with this:
1. it has little to do with the argument at hand
2. ive heard it a million times before, if i actually considered it a valid solution i would have never inquired to the problem,
3. what exactly is this one true religion that the great consciousness (oops i meant some random internet site) has graced you in revealing to you?
4. in exactly what way are we all "one"?
5. What is this eternal love you speak of?
6. How do you know what truth is?
1. if we are talking about the elites plans to take over the world, why would you come in and tell me that everything and everyone is oneness and
love, how does this help me at all????
great now i can go meditate about love and oneness and the world will be just right, it solves all the problems.
2.yes thats right i would say that every time i come on to ATS there is some member posting about this oneness stuff, ive heard it before, yes it
could be true, no i dont believe it is and i dont need you shoving it down my throat everywhere
3. Why is this religion of oneness the source of all others, i have seen more evidence of religions being born of superstitious circumstances or even
from otherworldly creatures, truth is many people are lost because they dont want to believe one religion or another but they want to believe
something, so they see this Oneness nonsense and think:
"hey here's a belief where i still get to believe in a higher power, there is an afterlife because i am a part of this higher being and will become
one with him upon death, it believes in love as its founding priciple and that sounds pretty good to me so i guess ill believe in this!"
truth is it's such a vague belief that anyone could apply it to their life, its funny that so many sites that promote oneness claim that all the
religious "prophets" were all just teaching oneness. What a scam seriously, i have seen evidence of Jesus' devotion to his Jewish roots in believing
in one true god! (read the book - "the bible for people who hate the bible" part 2)
4.In what way are we all one, yes maybe we are all comprised of the same atoms and everything else is just an illusion, but it is a persistent one,
how do you not know that this illusion is not a part of the reality, maybe we are all connected but so what? i havent felt it, i cannot see it, it
doesnt affect my life,
i cant sit down meditate on how connected i am to everything and have all my debts and problems disappear, i will still feel pain and loss and
suffering, everyone likes to talk about oneness but no one ever explains how it can be applied to my life today, no one shows proof of its effects in
like if you were truly some master of oneness who has felt being one and has meditated for hours why are you on a conspiracy site posting about it,
why not just sit there, meditate and know that everything will be alright, why are you trying to convince yourself (since we are all one) what you
5.Love, love, love... ya its great, but seriously eternal and everlasting love??? what a load of nonsense seriously, prove to me where eternal love
has won out over everything else,
hate and anger is a part of us, dominance is in our nature, but no we humans have to make up some belief about love to justify our wrongdoings and
delude us into thinking that evil will not win out in the end.
the only reason these oneness people use the banner of love is because its something that releases the chemicals in our bodies that gives us the best
feeling possible and that isnt tainted by cultural bias (ie sex)
so we assume that the all powerful consciousness must be a facilitator of this feeling that is so strong and powerful and binding (because of our
species programing to ensure that we protect our genes and benefactors),
truth is if there was some sort of consciousness or power in the universe it wouldnt chose between good and evil which are human contructions of
cultural and religious bias, or love and hate which are simply programmed circumstances for our species planetary development.
ill admit that there are many mysteries and ancient wisdom/knowledge in the world, but i have extremely high doubts as to oneness and eternal love
being the main components of our universal existence.
6. As far as i am concerned no one knows absolute truth, thats why i hate it when people come on to a thread and claim oneness and eternal love as if
it was an obvious truth of the world that i was stupid not to figure out,
i would appreciate it more if these people came on stated their belief in a way that confirms that it is a theory and not absolute truth and explain
in a thorough and interesting way how it applies to the topic at hand.
So yes i believe Oneness and these eternal love theories are all nonsense and i would love to hear from anyone who agrees or disagrees with a logical
argument and without personal attacks of any kind (which i doubt will happen since anyone advocating what i am against will believe in this "love all"
philosophy and wouldnt dare tainting their belief system by insulting a fellow being of this universe)
therefore i say to you -
Bring wood and oil!
Get a fire going!!!!!
edit on 11-9-2010 by tankthinker because: (no reason given)