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posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 06:21 AM
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All I can see of you is your avatar...but my guess is that you are still a beautiful person...your friends are blessed to know you.




posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 06:24 AM
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Originally posted by AlreadyGone
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All I can see of you is your avatar...but my guess is that you are still a beautiful person...your friends are blessed to know you.


heh , well thank you so much for the kind words ,and i am glad to know that their is another like me out their

thank you so much

Love

Nephi



posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 06:30 AM
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The only answer I could supply to your original question is that you wouldn't send your own children to hell because you appear to be a fairly sane reasonable person.

The biblical Christian god however isn't like that at all. I presume that you also wouldn't turn someone into a pillar of salt for being gay, or destroy an entire town because they worshiped a golden calf.



posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 06:36 AM
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Originally posted by davespanners
The only answer I could supply to your original question is that you wouldn't send your own children to hell because you appear to be a fairly sane reasonable person.

The biblical Christian god however isn't like that at all. I presume that you also wouldn't turn someone into a pillar of salt for being gay, or destroy an entire town because they worshiped a golden calf.


i would not , i think that god is pure energy and that energy is pure love ,and he does not have the ability to be mad ,i just think most of the bible is fable .but i think it might contain some words of god ...i just dont know to be honest



posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 06:41 AM
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Originally posted by Nephi1337
,we have the power to create life ,do we not ?

Not really. We have sexual encounters and then the body makes a replica .. or not.
We don't 'will' a self-realizing life into existance. Ya' know?

Anyways ... you might be interested in this thread Is God A Dead-beat Dad?"



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posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 06:54 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by Nephi1337
,we have the power to create life ,do we not ?

Not really. We have sexual encounters and then the body makes a replica .. or not.
We don't 'will' a self-realizing life into existance. Ya' know?

Anyways ... you might be interested in this thread Is God A Dead-beat Dad?"



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so we dont have the power to create life? if i want to make a child and it is my will to do so and i am sucessful that is not creating life ?


but i have a better thought for you to ponder , i once had a wet dream and i created the tools for life from that dream ,that dream that was none exsistant ....what does that tell you ?



posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 06:59 AM
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....what does that tell you ?



That your a perv ??

Was that the Vin Diesel dream ??


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posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 07:01 AM
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Originally posted by IntastellaBurst



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That your a perv ??

Was that the Vin Diesel dream ??


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lol i was dreaming about you and some csmf !!!!!!!!! lmfao



posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 07:29 AM
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Teach your children the path of knowledge, give them science, for science is the real religion. You cannot disprove science, but you can spend all day nitpicking on any religion. Your child will not be the common child, it will be an unique thinking machine capable of thinking outside the lines humanity has drawn on life/afterlife. My parents never taught me any science, I just got caught in its web of awe and couldn't resist learning. Where religion, you can become a minister when your a teen and learn " how to live life" from people that otherwise you would never even think about talking to.

You learn something everyday from science, and its always thought-provoking. Think of this, if you had a giant maze, and put "intelligent" monkeys in said maze, and watched them evolve. One day one of the monkeys dies, the rest get sad and emotional right? One of them says to another one " its okay fellas, when we die we will be with them again everything will be okay" and no-one questions it. With there confidence in there new-found way of life they spread there ideals to the other monkeys and something unexpected happens, another group of monkeys already think they know how the afterlife works and when other monkeys start telling them that they are wrong they get very mad. Wars are caused from this dispute and monkeys die. Say said monkeys evolve and create technology and get to about our stage of life, with many monkeys and many different religions, they start to wonder "are we alone in this universe? are their other monkeys like us? if there are why don't they say hi?"
Now let me ask you, if you were the maze owner and watched all this, would you go into the maze and say hi? or would you just leave them to themselves?
This is the situation we are in today, and it sucks for not all of us are stupid monkeys.



posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 07:34 AM
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Originally posted by BIONICLE ALEX
I hear you brother!

Let me start here, I've been studying the bible for a long time now about 30 years I think, any way as far as I have research the bible thoroughly I've known that there is no Hell that exist.

Whatever a person have done in the past is stays in the past as long you repent from it for the mercy of God Jehovah, thats wy Yeshua died for us so we could have a second chance of being perfect again like we wore design for on this planet.

Search the truth don't listen to any priest 99.9% of them are false prophets of modern day, do your research using the bible as your first base and "My God!! Will You Discover a Whole Different World". Let me add something els, your kids are never to young to learn good.

Remember this and never forget this: There's only one God and his name is Jehovah, he is Alpha and Omega who created all living things in and out of this world even his son Yeshua ( Jesus Christ ) our loard and savior. God bless you and your love-ones and I hope to see you back on earth in paradise one day, but to get to that point we need to know what to do and thats why is so important to research the holy script of the bible. In other words read the instructions of eternal life and follow it.


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Thank you for saying exactly what needed to be said. God Bless You and the Poster!



posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 07:37 AM
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Originally posted by Quasar_La-Zar
Teach your children the path of knowledge, give them science, for science is the real religion. You cannot disprove science, but you can spend all day nitpicking on any religion. Your child will not be the common child, it will be an unique thinking machine capable of thinking outside the lines humanity has drawn on life/afterlife. My parents never taught me any science, I just got caught in its web of awe and couldn't resist learning. Where religion, you can become a minister when your a teen and learn " how to live life" from people that otherwise you would never even think about talking to.

You learn something everyday from science, and its always thought-provoking. Think of this, if you had a giant maze, and put "intelligent" monkeys in said maze, and watched them evolve. One day one of the monkeys dies, the rest get sad and emotional right? One of them says to another one " its okay fellas, when we die we will be with them again everything will be okay" and no-one questions it. With there confidence in there new-found way of life they spread there ideals to the other monkeys and something unexpected happens, another group of monkeys already think they know how the afterlife works and when other monkeys start telling them that they are wrong they get very mad. Wars are caused from this dispute and monkeys die. Say said monkeys evolve and create technology and get to about our stage of life, with many monkeys and many different religions, they start to wonder "are we alone in this universe? are their other monkeys like us? if there are why don't they say hi?"
Now let me ask you, if you were the maze owner and watched all this, would you go into the maze and say hi? or would you just leave them to themselves?
This is the situation we are in today, and it sucks for not all of us are stupid monkeys.



simply beautiful,you just described how many people here on ats think ...your words hold true

thank you so much my good man

Love

Nephi



posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 07:42 AM
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Originally posted by BIONICLE ALEX
No body finds the truth in the religion, you'll fined the truth in the bible period, but I warn you!!

The bible has been played with and is very important for you to discover which parts has been added and taken off. Trust me no religion will tell you what has been added or taken of the bible, NO RELIGION WILL TELL YOU THAT. That's why there is so many disagreements about the bible, it has been twisted on purpose by secreat societies like Iluminati, they play a huge roll in this bible conspiracy from a long time ago.


How could you discredit my Father who is more than capable of bringing His word, as He spoke it, to be copied as is? My Father loves us so much that He made sure His word, verbadem, was written through the generations. You do not give My Father enough credit. You need to reflect!

Even better, He has written His word in our (believers) hearts.



posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 07:56 AM
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Hi guys,

Im a reader not a poster normally, but i do love this site.

However, i am intrigued when i read a post like this, because within 2 or 3 posts it turns into a science v religion post.

Children are of course more valuable than all the gold on the planet and are created out of love (normally) and in their eyes Mum is GOD, no doubt about it. The love for a child and the love for a parent from a child knows no boundries, i know i have 3 girls.

Its nothing to do with GOD or religion, its purely pro creation.

I would say, i desperatly want to believe all this is GOD,s work and that if your good you will go to heaven etc.. but after years of reading, thinking and studying it really is a bit hard to swallow. Sorry to you believers and i envy your faith.

Peace to all.



posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by jehova620
Hi guys,

Im a reader not a poster normally, but i do love this site.

However, i am intrigued when i read a post like this, because within 2 or 3 posts it turns into a science v religion post.

Children are of course more valuable than all the gold on the planet and are created out of love (normally) and in their eyes Mum is GOD, no doubt about it. The love for a child and the love for a parent from a child knows no boundries, i know i have 3 girls.

Its nothing to do with GOD or religion, its purely pro creation.

I would say, i desperatly want to believe all this is GOD,s work and that if your good you will go to heaven etc.. but after years of reading, thinking and studying it really is a bit hard to swallow. Sorry to you believers and i envy your faith.

Peace to all.








so far i think the thread is doing ok ,we need people with your thoughts to keep it focoused around the love ...

many thanks

love Nephi



posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 08:05 AM
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FWIW....I'm full on agnostic, and open to any tangible proof of our creator.

I tend to relate to a loving god as you suggest rather than the hateful spiteful god we are presented.
If god is truly superior, he/it would be above hate in my simple mind. I feel that we humans are actually making some progress in violence and hate reduction even though we see lots of it on MSM.

Since we really don't know, we could be the result of an older race that dumped us off here..thus making us the aliens, the UFOs our keepers/gods. Not that I believe any theory, just realize the many possibilities.

However, if we are just human clones, and our creator is just a genetic scientist we might have a plane old human god (hateful / spiteful).

Unfortunately if evolution is our god, we can count on the human hate factor leading the way, till we evolve out of it (fingers crossed).

If we get our cruelty from god, since we where made in his image, he could be a bad guy....like us.

Whatever is out there, I will not blindly worship anything because another human thinks I should.



posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 09:48 AM
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There's only one God and his name is Jehovah,


But according to yahwhe there is more than one, seems like your god contradicts you, 30 years of reading the bible ??!!!

Took me a couple of minutes to see that there is/was more than one god, maybe you should try reading the bibles again with an open mind and a little more critically.



posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 09:56 AM
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Originally posted by Nephi1337
then why does god not teach us his right and wrongs? .....maybe the word of god was left in a book ....who knows more question to ponder on


My Friend,

God does teach us what is right. We just choose not to listen.

That which you want at your most basic level, is also what everyone else wants. That is love.

Give it to all, even if they do not return it, and you can not ere.

With Love,

Your Brother



posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 10:03 AM
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Children are of course more valuable than all the gold on the planet


Indeed they are and according to the god books they have a value allocated to them, you will note that female is of little value compared to the male. Nothing surprising there as this god has somewhat of a low opinion of its' female creation.


Leviticus 27:3-7
Male, 60+ years: 15 shekels

Female, 60+ years:10 shekels

Male, 20-60 years: 50 shekels

Female, 20-60 years: 30 shekels

Male, 5-20 years: 20 shekels

Female, 5-20 years: 10 shekels

Male, 1 month-5 years: 5 shekels

Female, 1 month-5 years: 3 shekels



posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 10:15 AM
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even if he had the sens of right and wrong and the penalties that fallowed ..i still could not and would not dam him to hell ...because i love him


Indeed, that's the big difference between you and this yahwhe/jesus mangod, if the bibles are to be held as true then you are far more compassionate than this monster that lives in the sky.

You seem like a nice enough chap, do yourself a favor mate stick with your own moral compass it will serve you well (seems to have done a pretty good job up till now) as the cricket said "let your conscience be your guide you don't need invisible men in the sky to act as your crutch when the decisions or life gets hard.



posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by Nephi1337
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if what you say happens to be true ..may i ask you then ..would you rather be locked in a room for with people that beive in god and life after death and have hope ,or would you rather be locked in a room with people who go by the law do what thow wilt ?

i guess what i am trying to say is ,what if we were never bread to believe in a god , could you imagin how this world would have turnd out? look at it now ,how many people have now faith ? and look at the times ...so it has taken this long for god to slowly fade away and look at what this world is turning into .....but who knows honestly cause alot of people have died in his name


If I had to be locked in a room with people, I'd prefer just people. All different sorts of people.

But to answer the strictest question you asked, I would choose the latter for in that locked room I could shine and share in simplicity. That would not be possible in the first locked room option.

Okay, I'm looking at it now.....

Without the Indoctrination from the moment of our Birth to be a replicant human being, confined by cultural and societal limitations, some would seek what we may call darker paths, as is already the case. Some would choose to walk naked in the Light, and some would choose variations of both ends of that spectrum.

So, just those who walk naked in the Light will Shine brightly enough and heal enough people over time to bring all into the Light again... sounds weird but it works like that. Doesn't seem to in our curren experience but only because not enough are awake yet to Shine brightly.

These Times, are perfect for Now. Humanity is only a blink of an eye so far, we have so far to go. But first we must finish with the Mind-Set of Might is right. And to do this it must reach a very natural conclusion in order for us to be completely finished with it. Meanwhile some few thousands in the world are planting seeds for a future.

Then when done with Might is Right, those of us left will build. But not rebuild, instead they will choose more effective ways to live here, a new direction for human beings into equality, support and care for all it's members. It won't happen over night, some seeds take tens or hundreds of centuries to reach Fruition.

Sorry to ramble on then, I hadn't intended to.


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