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Dead Sea Scrolls Conspiracy: The Thanksgiving Hymns (1QH)

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posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 07:37 PM
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English translations of the Thanksgiving Hymns (1QH) of the Dead Sea Scrolls, one of the first of the scrolls discovered in 1947, have been available for at least the past 50 years.

Beginning my research in July, 1974, it was not until December, 1991 that I received the final piece of information necessary (specifically, the radio carbon dating of 1QH to between 25 B.C. and 65 A.D.) to conclude—for Revelational, Doctrinal and historical reasons far too complicated to summarize here—that the most likely author of the Thanksgiving Hymns was Jesus; and that, more importantly, there is no other viable historical candidate other than Jesus who even comes close to having the Knowledge required to write the Thanksgiving Hymns.

And it is because of the threat that this conclusion would constitute to, in particular, Christianity, Inc.—I would go so far as to argue that the extant copy of the Thanksgiving Hymns is, most likely, written in the handwriting of Jesus himself—that this particular element of my research has been censored, suppressed and ignored since late 1991-early 1992 by every one of the officials of both the secular and religious mainstream and academic media, and every one of the Dead Sea Scrolls researchers who I have contacted.

Be that as it may, however, even more important to understand is that the principal motivation for what has been referred to as the “Dead Sea Scrolls Scandal” was not so much that the Jewish and Christian religious ‘authorities’ were clearly aware that those scrolls might specifically contradict the fundamental assertions of Jewish and Christian theology; but, on the contrary, that the Jewish and Christian religious ‘authorities’ might very well not have even so much as a clue as to the meaning of those scrolls in the first place; and that, once it was realized that they did not understand the Dead Sea Scrolls, it might then be much easier to question whether they even understood the Revelations which they not only claim to understand, but are paid to understand.

And I would suggest that this motivation for the Dead Sea Scrolls Scandal was, to no small degree, triggered by, among others, the following passages in the Thanksgiving Hymns themselves; passages which are categorically and definitively beyond both the frame of reference of both Jewish and Christian theology and the ability of the official Jewish and Christian religious ‘authorities’ to explain:

1) “…of the Vision of Knowledge, they say ‘It is unsure.’ And, of the way of Thy heart, ‘It is not the Way.’”

2) “The Hero shall bend his bow; the fortress shall open onto Endless Space and the everlasting gates shall send out weapons of war.”

Now, the problems that these particular passages present to the vast majority of the Jewish and Christian religious ‘authorities’ are as follows:

They do not have any understanding whatsoever of the meaning of the term “Vision of Knowledge”; not being able to understand that it is symbolized as the “Tree of life” in Genesis 3:24; is described by Hagar in Genesis 16:13 with the words “You are El Roi [meaning “God of Vision”]. Surely this is a place where I, in my turn, have seen the One Who sees me?”; is referred to in 1Enoch as the “Vision of Wisdom”; is referred to by Daniel, Ezekiel and Jesus as the Vision of the “Son of man”; and is referred to as the “Night Journey” of Mohammed in the Quran. Neither do they have any understanding of the meaning of they phrase “way of Thy heart”—even despite the fact that Jesus claimed to be the “Way, the Truth and the Life”.

Furthermore, the reference to the ‘Hero who will bend his bow’ echoes the image of the rider on the white horse, which constitutes the First Seal in the Revelation of John; in which case it is particularly important that they understand the meaning of “the fortress shall open onto Endless Space”; something which, however, they cannot possibly understand because they do not understand the Doctrine of “resurrection” (the “way of Thy heart”) as a Doctrine of ‘Rebirth’.

In other contexts, I have explained in rigorous and exhausting detail that the Thanksgiving Hymns conveys the Revelation and Doctrine of “resurrection” as a Doctrine of ‘Rebirth’; in which case “the fortress” refers to the 3-dimensional ‘curved’ space ‘fallen’ consciousness of the “self” and the ‘thinker’; whereas the “Endless Space” refers to the 2-dimensional ‘flat’ space “observing consciousness” through which is Revealed both the Revelation of the Memory of Creation and the revelation of the memories of previous lives.

Thus, one of the principal goals of the entire Dead Sea Scrolls Scandal, which existed for some 40 years, was to distract people from the fact that the Thanksgiving Hymns, discovered in 1947, already constituted a lethal threat to both the Jewish and Christian disinterpretation of the "resurrection" as the raising of a dead physical body from the grave.

Michael Cecil




posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 08:02 PM
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I pulled the following from Wikipedia:

There are several theories regarding how the Hodayot were used. Some believe they were daily prayers, or a moral instruction booklet or even war songs sung after a victory. Menahem Mansoor holds that The Thanksgiving scroll was a private psalter for a select group within a community that modeled the correct way to praise God for deliverance. Svend Holm-Nielsen believes that the Hodayot served a liturgical purpose as hymns sung or recited during certain ceremonies, such as the initiation ceremonies described in the Community Rule (1QS) and the War Scroll (1QM).[citation needed]

So perhaps you're correct...to a point...I'm not sure if I'd agree that Jesus was saying that he wasn't "The Way" but then, I'm a layman...not a scholar.

Good post though...thank you.



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 08:42 PM
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You say you came to this conclusion? I find your research rather interesting. I wish I hadn't lost my interest in Christ, but religion has destroyed my faith. Perhaps your information will spark my intrigue once again.

Thank you.



posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 05:15 AM
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Originally posted by bowlbyville
I pulled the following from Wikipedia:


First of all, you have to understand who controls Wikipedia: those who have an economic interest in the preservation of the status quo.

For example, Wikipedia will not allow the publication on the "topic" page of the Doctrine of "resurrection" as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth'; not even as a "minority position". (I've tried. Just look at the "discussion" page.) The goal of Wikipedia is to censor and suppress this Truth to the economic advantage of the monotheistic religious 'authorities'.


There are several theories regarding how the Hodayot were used. Some believe they were daily prayers, or a moral instruction booklet or even war songs sung after a victory. Menahem Mansoor holds that The Thanksgiving scroll was a private psalter for a select group within a community that modeled the correct way to praise God for deliverance. Svend Holm-Nielsen believes that the Hodayot served a liturgical purpose as hymns sung or recited during certain ceremonies, such as the initiation ceremonies described in the Community Rule (1QS) and the War Scroll (1QM).[citation needed]


The most polite thing that can be said about this is that it is nonsense.

The religious 'authorities' will say whatever they need to say to distract people from the fact that the Thanksgiving Hymns consisted of Revelations. This is the same kind of argument that has been levelled at the Quran: that it is nothing more than Arabic poetry.


So perhaps you're correct...to a point...I'm not sure if I'd agree that Jesus was saying that he wasn't "The Way" but then, I'm a layman...not a scholar.


Jesus said "I am the resurrection and the life."

The "resurrection" is the "Way".

Michael Cecil



posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 06:37 AM
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I believe that when you said that "The way of Thy Heart", and "It's not the Way"...
Could be understood as:
The way of your own heart, is not the Way...by following yourself.
The only Way, is Jesus.

Maybe I'm off?




Great thread.



posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 06:52 AM
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Originally posted by havok
reply to post by Michael Cecil
 


I believe that when you said that "The way of Thy Heart", and "It's not the Way"...
Could be understood as:
The way of your own heart, is not the Way...by following yourself.
The only Way, is Jesus.

Maybe I'm off?


Oops. Sorry.

The quotation from the Thanksgiving Hymns was referring to what the Jewish religious 'authorities' were saying about the Revelation of the "resurrection".

They also said that the "Vision of Knowledge" is 'unsure'; in other words, that such a Vision cannot be relied upon as a Revelation of the Truth.

Michael Cecil



posted on Sep, 22 2010 @ 08:46 AM
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The Vision of the “Son of man” is referred to in the Thanksgiving Hymns of the Dead Sea Scrolls (1QH) as the “Vision of Knowledge”:

“Of the Vision of the Knowledge, they [that is, the Jewish (and Christian) religious ‘authorities’] Say, ‘It is unsure.’”

This is one of the reasons that the only people who are allowed to publish their writings in ‘explanation’ of the Thanksgiving Hymns are Jewish and Christian theologians; that is, Jewish and Christian religious ‘authorities’ who have no Knowledge whatsoever about the Vision of the “Son of man”.

(Of course, the Vision of the "Son of man" is also referred to in the Quran as the "Night Journey" of Mohammed 'to Jerusalem'. But the nitwit Muslim religious 'authorities', following the footsteps of the nitwit Jewish and Christian religious 'authorities', also have no Knowledge of this; assuming that the "Night Journey" occurred in the space-time reality; in contradiction, however, of the statement by the wife of Mohammed, however, that "The prophet's body did not move.")

In addition, Jesus being crucified “between two thieves at the place of the Skull” is to be understood as a cryptic reference to the Vision of the “Son of man”; and also echoes the symbolism of the caduceus—the two serpents winding around a winged staff—which is both a symbol for the medical profession, as well as a symbol for what, in the Eastern traditions, is referred to as the “vision of kundalini”: the “ida” being the left, “lunar” and feminine ‘energy current’; the “pingala” being the right, “solar” and masculine ‘energy current’; and the “sushumna” being the central ‘energy current’.

This Vision is also described in one American Indian tradition as the ‘horse with no name’; and, in another American Indian tradition as the “Thunderbird”.

Kundalini yoga on the other hand—or any technique, practice, discipline, teaching, system of conditioning whose goal is to ‘conjure’ such a vision—is specifically condemned and repudiated in the Revelation of John, being referred to with the term “what the Nicolaitans are doing”.

Of course, in an attempt to deny, trivialize, and contradict the Knowledge Revealed through the Vision of the “Son of man”, the nitwit Christian religious ‘authorities’ and their gullible followers refer to such Knowledge as being a consequence of “syncretism”.

Michael



edit on 22-9-2010 by Michael Cecil because: add reference to the "Night Journey" of Mohammed



posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 03:44 PM
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I have held several discussions regarding the identity, words, and goals of Jesus Christ. I am not a Christian, nor am I atheist; thus, the usual biases do not necessarily apply to me. However, I find it difficult to believe that something which is repeated throughout Jesus' recorded life (by which I mean nearly all of what he taught, most most specifically the Way to God and the Kingdom thereof) is misinterpreted by specialists, or declared to be 'unsure' by priests. That just seems ridiculous. These men and women make lifelong studies of the Bible and its contents, as well as its predecessors and various manuscripts closely connected with it. I find such a mass wealth of referential material to be quite the opposite of 'unsure'. That's like glancing through 500,000 Google results and saying, "Meh, not much there." Perhaps you could elaborate? My last point is this: I noticed how you practically skimmed over your analysis of the Scrolls. You were fairly detailed in pointing fingers at declaimers, but your support for your OWN theory is rather lacking. I would politely request that, when you find the time, you take care to describe your exact argument, analysis, results and conclusions. In this way, we will be able to digest the full structure and content of your thesis and respond in kind. Thank you.



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