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reply posted on 10-9-2010 @ 06:23 PM by TortoiseKweek
Here is a good link:

www.sacredsites.com...

It's amazing how these societies built these large structures (like the Egyptians). They were brighter than what we give them credit for.


reply posted on 10-9-2010 @ 06:42 PM by spikey
reply to post by Turiddu



Did you read his post?

The 'evidence' is that these 1000+ tonnes quarried, carved and placed colossal stones, can not be moved today by our largest, modern cranes. These gargantuan blocks were lain and set approximately nine-thousand-years-ago!

That's a 9 followed by three 0's, or put another way...9,000 freaking years ago. Twice the reported age of the great pyramids of Egypt. Nearly twice as old as Stonehenge in Wiltshire, England.

According to establish science, humanity at that point in time, NINE THOUSAND YEARS AGO, did little more than run around in animal skins, lived in caves or other primitive accommodations, lived as hunter/gatherers using primitive hunting weapons and farming would not be widely practiced for another 1000-2000 years.

Yet these things were quarried, supposedly using animal bone and stone tools, and then transported over FIVE miles from the quarry site, to be lifted and stacked precisely.

No...it's NOT a joke. There are plenty of websites that carry images of these things, go take a look if you are really interested in leaning something, rather than taking the piss out of anyone who posts somethings you consider to be controversial.

Failing that, why don't you tell us how you think these stones came to be where there are?


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reply posted on 10-9-2010 @ 06:52 PM by Aquarius1
Originally posted by spikey
reply to
post by Turiddu






The 'evidence' is that these 1000+ tonnes quarried, carved and placed colossal stones, can not be moved today by our largest, modern cranes. These gargantuan blocks were lain and set approximately nine-thousand-years-ago!


It is an amazing find, a shame that so much attention is put on Giza, we could possibiily learn more from these ancient strutures than Giza which is much younger.

Like your post Spiky.


reply posted on 10-9-2010 @ 06:57 PM by spikey
reply to post by Aquarius1



Thanks Aquarius1,

(although, i've just added to it, so you might want to take that praise back!)

I agree, there are loads of mysterious sites around the world, that not only incorporate unexplained features, but unexplainable features!

Cheers.


reply posted on 10-9-2010 @ 07:35 PM by Xcalibur254
reply to post by Mooradian



Except it doesn't matter if our cranes can lift the stones or not, because the builders wouldn't have been lifting them, they would have been sliding them. It has already been shown that large blocks can be moved using relatively few people. Furthermore, I don't know where this claim of 5 miles comes from. This was mentioned in another thread, yet everything I can find says that the quarry was 1/4 of a mile away, at least for the Trilithon. Why can't people believe that ancient Man was extremely resourceful and ingenious?


reply posted on 10-9-2010 @ 07:43 PM by Aquarius1
reply to post by artistpoet



Interesting points artistpoet, there is also some evidence that the Sphinx is much older because of the water erosion, there was no water 4000 plus years ago in that area, some think it may have been built 10,000 years before that.



reply posted on 10-9-2010 @ 07:55 PM by Mooradian
Originally posted by spikey
reply to
post by Turiddu



Did you read his post?

The 'evidence' is that these 1000+ tonnes quarried, carved and placed colossal stones, can not be moved today by our largest, modern cranes. These gargantuan blocks were lain and set approximately nine-thousand-years-ago!

That's a 9 followed by three 0's, or put another way...9,000 freaking years ago. Twice the reported age of the great pyramids of Egypt. Nearly twice as old as Stonehenge in Wiltshire, England.

According to establish science, humanity at that point in time, NINE THOUSAND YEARS AGO, did little more than run around in animal skins, lived in caves or other primitive accommodations, lived as hunter/gatherers using primitive hunting weapons and farming would not be widely practiced for another 1000-2000 years.

Yet these things were quarried, supposedly using animal bone and stone tools, and then transported over FIVE miles from the quarry site, to be lifted and stacked precisely.

No...it's NOT a joke. There are plenty of websites that carry images of these things, go take a look if you are really interested in leaning something, rather than taking the piss out of anyone who posts somethings you consider to be controversial.

Failing that, why don't you tell us how you think these stones came to be where there are?


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AMEN


reply posted on 10-9-2010 @ 07:58 PM by UmbraSumus
reply to post by spikey



Hey there Spikey .

Have you got a decent link to some of the precise measurements and distances involved with these Baalbek stones.

So far , from the little research online , i have found some conflicting info.

That the quarry is higher than the eventual resting place of the stones .
That the distance the stones were transported from the quarry to the platform is approx. a half mile .(not 5 miles as op stated)
The three blocks used were 800 Tons each with the unused block weighing 1200 Tons .

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Are the Romans not the most likely candidate for this feat of engineering ?

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I am presuming that your figure of 9,000 years is based on the weathering of the stone .... correct ?

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Thanks in advance Spikey !






reply posted on 10-9-2010 @ 07:59 PM by DoomsdayRex
Originally posted by spikey
The 'evidence' is that these 1000+ tonnes quarried, carved and placed colossal stones, can not be moved today by our largest, modern cranes. These gargantuan blocks were lain and set approximately nine-thousand-years-ago!

That's a 9 followed by three 0's, or put another way...9,000 freaking years ago. Twice the reported age of the great pyramids of Egypt. Nearly twice as old as Stonehenge in Wiltshire, England.


There is so much incredibly wrong in these posts.

The area of Baalbek has been settled for 9,000 years but the temple is not 9,000 years old. The construction of the temple complex began in the first century BC, by the Romans. We know the Romans (not giants, but that is an interesting side-note) built the complex because we have documentation of it. Construction was continuous for well over a century. Baalbek (known to the Romans as Heliopolis) lay near a major trade-route to the East, the local economy was tied to travelers on this route visiting the temples; so construction was always taking place.

Originally posted by Mooradian
The base columns are over 1000 TONS. thats a weight that even our strongest cranes cannot pick up. These rocks were cut perfectly and placed together so a paper cannot not be inserted between!

(also, the 1000 ton rocks were moved 5 miles =/)


No, the base columns are not over 1000 tons. The largest blocks at the temple are around 800 tons. Though we don't know exactly how the Romans moved the stones at Baalbek into place, we have a good idea based on the methods known in other constructions.

However, there are two stones at the nearby quarry that way over 1000 tons, Stone of the Pregnant Woman and another unnamed stone. However, this are still in the quarry 1 kilometer away and uphill from the temple complex, not 5 miles as claimed above. They were not moved; it is unknown if they were ever intended to be moved whole or broken up.

As for such large stones being impossible for the ancients to move, that is wrong as well. The Romans often moved very large stones much further than the one-kilometer from the quarry to the Heliopolis temple-complex. For instance, Augustus had a 230 ton obelisk moved from Alexandria to Rome to commemorate his victories against Marcus Antonius, a distance of 1951 kilometers further than the stones at the Heliopolis complex. As for modern man being incapable of moving such weights, in the 18th century Russian moved a 1250 ton stone, the Thunderstone.

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(That interesting side-note being that after the fall of the Western Roman Empire, in just a few centuries many Europeans outside of Italy forgot the Romans were capable of great archaeological works...

Saxo Grammaticus, for example, argues that giants had to exist, because nothing else would explain the large walls, stone monuments, and statues that we now know were the remains of Roman construction
Source

The more things change...


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