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Pentagon Plan: Buying Books to Keep Secrets

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posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 07:08 AM
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Pentagon Plan: Buying Books to Keep Secrets


www.nytimes.com

Defense Department officials are negotiating to buy and destroy all 10,000 copies of the first printing of an Afghan war memoir they say contains intelligence secrets, according to two people familiar with the dispute.

...But when the Defense Intelligence Agency saw the manuscript in July and showed it to other spy agencies, reviewers identified more than 200 passages suspected of containing classified information, setting off a scramble by Pentagon officials to stop the book’s distribution.
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posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 07:08 AM
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Great. So because of the Pentagon's paranoia, the US taxpayer gets to buy 10,000 books and burn them.


And Rumsfeld wondered where $ 2.3 Trillion disappeared? MAKING STUPID DECISIONS LIKE THIS, is where.

Jesus. The Army signed off on the darn thing, so leave it alone. Now everyone and their momma is going to have to have one, and the book is going to go viral.

Way to go Pentagon!
:shk: Not.

www.nytimes.com
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posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 07:35 AM
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lol, now thats funny...
Just wish I was the publisher...

Do they intend to buy ever copy ever printed??

What about online copies?

s&f



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 07:35 AM
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so what happens when the second printing comes out? and will it make the best sellers list if all 10,000 copies sell out on day one?

seems like it would be easier and cheaper to just censor the publisher, not that I agree with that



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 07:46 AM
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And remember, guys, the term 'national security'' is double-speak for 'hide the crimes of the Cabal'.

Ludicrous, but if I were the publisher I'd take the deal and print a second run. Then take the money and print a third run, etc.

The idiocy of these psychopaths knows no bounds.



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 07:48 AM
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10k books is not a large first run at all. But all it takes is one copy to leak out and it's on the Internet forever!


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posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 08:26 AM
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Originally posted by TrueAmerican
And Rumsfeld wondered where $ 2.3 Trillion disappeared? MAKING STUPID DECISIONS LIKE THIS


and like this :



and this



and don't forget this:



At the end of the day they will spend as much money as they want when they want and we can do nothing but sit back and watch them make a mess of everything!



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 08:26 AM
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Well, nobody ever said the Pentagon was not really good at wasting money by the truckloads, did they? They still think they can hide things from us, isn't that funny? And by burning books, no less.



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 08:32 AM
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Didn't we (UK) try this with the "Spycatcher" book?

In the end they just published it in Australia.



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 09:44 AM
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You kind of have to love it when the media shines the spotlight on a story like this.

The information is a threat.....

That's why it's "news"... certainly not that book sales and the scramble to acquire the book will skyrocket. Certainly not that this soldiers' account has already been in circulation and therefore no amount of 'secrecy showmanship' can undo that fact.

What threats to the nation are in there?

Probably one of liability for actions taken without proper due process.

Perhaps the revelation that it's all pretty much fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants out in the field.

This is media making news about media... a very common affair, if you think about it.

The best that could have been done would have been to NOT report the matter in the national news arena. But, the dollars seem to drive the decision no? Now the author and his publisher are guaranteed maximum return on the book... because even if no one was going to buy it, all the books will be sold. Another guarantee is that there will be a second book all about the 'scandal' and 'uproar' over this book.

The Lt. Colonel is set for life isn't he?

But the enlisted person who tries a stunt like this goes to a Kentucky Federal Penitentiary for 60 years for treason. Are we catching up yet?



edit on 10-9-2010 by Maxmars because: fat fingers errors



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 10:17 AM
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Originally posted by Maxmars
What threats to the nation are in there?



The disputed material includes the names of American intelligence officers who served with Colonel Shaffer and his accounts of clandestine operations, including N.S.A. eavesdropping operations, according to two people briefed on the Pentagon’s objections. They asked not to be named because the negotiations are supposed to be confidential.


Well if you remember, there were major "state secrets" issues like this with Sibel Edmonds and the fear that she would divulge all kinds of classified material if she testified. But she prepared well and still managed to point some serious finger without ever once divulging any classified information. She didn't mention many names though- to the point of even posting blank faces on her website- remember that?


In this book he does mention names, and that's where it seems the man upstairs is pissed. But that in itself makes me wonder if this couldn't be another turf war issue where the Army classification specialists allowed those names through- deliberately. "Payback is hell," type stuff.

Eavesdropping operations are not so secret anymore, but the methodologies used to effect them are still classified- according to what I've read.



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 10:27 AM
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Perhaps I should have been more verbose....

You see, the threat is not to the nation, nor to any specific person... if it were no amount of 'buying up books' is going to diminish or destroy that threat.

If the threat were REAL operational changes would be effected to render them impotent. People's identities can be changed (if the case were severe enough - witness protection does it ALL the time), command structures and human intelligence ops can be re-engineered (again - it happens all the time).

The threat is to the bureaucracy. The remedy is to make the author rich.

Similar threats (brought about by non-comms and enlisted) and are met with legal action and threats of incarceration and deadly force. Go figure


The elements of foreign intelligence collection are by no means secret. Only their efficacy and particulars are held like cards, close to the chest.

This is a case of fear being cited as a justification to buy thousands of books. I suspect this is more a function of institutional gamesmanship and PR than anything else. Especially consider the cavalier approach the NYTimes suddenly adopted after missing out on the Wikileaks media bonanza.



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 12:42 PM
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I agree with Maxmars. Were this a genuine threat to national security the NSA would swoop right in and confiscate any and all copies of this tome and it would be secreted away never to be seen again by the likes of us. Buy them all???? LOL sounds way too honest for the government.



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 01:28 PM
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Wow, more book burning by the US... this time it's the government. It almost sounds like the US government told the pastor that they could do a much better job of it anyways.


"Intelligence secrets"? Double speak for facts.

And whatever happened to the freedom of speech to the guy who wrote this book about Afghanistan? That was most people's argument for the pastor burning the Koran, well now the US government is burning thousands of copies of a non-fiction book about the Afghan war. Pretty much shoots down your "freedom of speech" rights, eh?



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posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 01:56 PM
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I forbid this, make it so. I am the taxpayer and I am in charge. Do anything other than what I instructed and you are out of here. All you gotta do is tell you congressperson and they will let the book go public.



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 04:21 PM
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LOL..

Get yourself a copy from fleabay.. #290473889261

Get him to scan it instead for the world to see...

Also look at the questions and answers at the bottom..


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posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 04:24 PM
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I think the funniest part about this whole thing is the fact they plan to make us pay for books that they are trying to keep from us....



posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 05:38 AM
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I wonder what would happen if, they go through with this, and it turns out that there are passages of the Koran quoted in it.

Things could get really ugly.

J.



posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 03:06 AM
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Originally posted by jjkenobi
10k books is not a large first run at all. But all it takes is one copy to leak out and it's on the Internet forever!


edit on 10-9-2010 by jjkenobi because: (no reason given)



To me the entire thing doesn't make sense though. For a few reasons.

I saw this story on Fox news a few days ago and I was shocked to hear about what the book is actually about.

At first it was cleared by the defense department and given the O.K.. Next thing you know the defense department is having a cow. Either whoever reviewed the book for the Pentagon didn't even read it, read parts of it but didn't think it involved anything classified/sensitive OR someone was trying to slip it past the Pentagon's radar and then someone realized what was happening.

However, even if the Pentagon were to purchase billions of copies of this book (with taxpayer money no less) just to destroy them, the book will eventually be available in digital format for kindle and other electronic devices and will probably have audio books available. When the book becomes available digitally it will go viral even if the hardcopies aren't buyable.

Besides, if you're the publisher and you're seeing how much attention this book is stirring up right now, you're going to find a way to get it to the public, digitally or otherwise. Even if the publisher can only release the digital form of the book, they can charge a few bucks a copy and make a ton of money.

OR, if all else fails, the author, himself, will find a way to make it publicly available.

This is why it makes absolutely no sense to spend all this time and money in trying to block this information from coming public. It will be publicly available eventually. They must know that their attempt is futile. Why would they even try when they must know that their actions will just make the book more popular?

-ChriS



posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 03:13 AM
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All of you do me and yourselves a favour and watch the film
The Book of Eli.


Mark my words its a true eye opener.



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