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Originally posted by davespanners
Originally posted by ClintK
Originally posted by davespanners
The MSM is made up of individual news organizations, how are we supposed to comment on one without commenting on the other. That's like asking us to comment on a forest without talking about trees.
I don't see how that's the case at all. Faulty logic. There are ten green people in town. Joe is one of them. Joe committed murder. Therefor ALL green people commit murder? That seems to be what you're saying.
Quite the opposite in your original post you said:
The agenda of just about ANY news organization is MONEY. Print, internet, broadcast -- it doesn't matter, it's always about money. Ratings, circulation, number of hits on a web site. MONEY, MONEY, MONEY!
Originally posted by SphinxMontreal
"I said before, I'm talking about the MSM and conspiracies to manipulate the public. NOT an individual new organization."
Only a couple of posts in and you're already splitting hairs and backpedaling. It is interesting to get some insight into what kind of people these disreputable treasonous media outlets like to hire. Not surprising in the least.
The agenda of just about ANY news organization is MONEY. Print, internet, broadcast -- it doesn't matter, it's always about money. Ratings, circulation, number of hits on a web site. MONEY, MONEY, MONEY!
I would agree that there is no overriding secret group controlling every single organization, but there are a very few people in charge of most of the huge media groups in the world and it's not even a secret.
Originally posted by davespanners
I have never argued that there is a conspiracy in the entire mainstream media.
The very first line of my first reply to you was
I would agree that there is no overriding secret group controlling every single organization, but there are a very few people in charge of most of the huge media groups in the world and it's not even a secret.
I was arguing with the bit of your post that said the only thing that media companies are interested in is MONEY MONEY MONEY, and I think I have proved that is wrong with a video of the head of one of the largest media groups in the entire world saying that he is interested in "Setting the agenda" of political debate
Sigh.....
Sigh....
ZZZZzzzzzzzzz
So do you admit that your original assertion that ALL the media is only about MONEY MONEY MONEY was wrong
I'm waiting...
Still waiting....
You can add not bothering to read the actual replies to your questions to your list of failed techniques now if you want
edit on 10-9-2010 by davespanners because: (no reason given)
Campaign workers for Senator
and presidential candidate Barack Obama are under fire for displaying
a flag featuring communist hero Che Guevara. But Obama has his own controversial
socialist connections. He is, in fact, an associate of a Chicago-based
Marxist group with access to millions of labor union dollars and connections
to expert political consultants, including a convicted swindler.
Sanders is a self-described democratic socialist,[1][2] and has praised European social democracy, but because he does not belong to a formal political party, he appears as an independent on the ballot. He is the first person elected to the U.S. Senate to identify as a socialist.[3]
From the October 1996 Update of the DSA 'New Party':
"New Party members are busy knocking on doors, hammering down lawn signs, and phoning voters to support NP candidates this fall. Here are some of our key races...
Illinois: Three NP-members won Democratic primaries last Spring and face off against Republican opponents on election day: Danny Davis (U.S. House), Barack Obama (State Senate) and Patricia Martin (Cook County Judiciary)."
Statements by JournoList members and responses
On July 20, 2010, The Daily Caller (DC) published the dialog of the JournoList concerning Jeremiah Wright.[13] The contributors discussed killing the Wright story, as it was reflecting negatively on Barack Obama. In a separate discussion, about an ABC News-sponsored debate between Obama and Hillary Clinton, Michael Tomasky, a writer for The Guardian, also tried to rally his fellow members of Journolist: “Listen folks – in my opinion, we all have to do what we can to kill ABC and this idiocy in whatever venues we have. This isn’t about defending Obama. This is about how the [mainstream media] kills any chance of discourse that actually serves the people".[13] James Taranto observed that one JournoList contributor, Spencer Ackerman of The Washington Independent, stated "If the right forces us all to either defend Wright or tear him down, no matter what we choose, we lose the game they've put upon us. Instead, take one of them – Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares –- and call them racists".
Originally posted by ljtg123
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Campaign workers for Senator
and presidential candidate Barack Obama are under fire for displaying
a flag featuring communist hero Che Guevara. But Obama has his own controversial
socialist connections. He is, in fact, an associate of a Chicago-based
Marxist group with access to millions of labor union dollars and connections
to expert political consultants, including a convicted swindler.
Why wasn't his information investigated and reported by the MSM?
Why did Senator Obama campaign for known socialist Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont?
en.wikipedia.org...
Sanders is a self-described democratic socialist,[1][2] and has praised European social democracy, but because he does not belong to a formal political party, he appears as an independent on the ballot. He is the first person elected to the U.S. Senate to identify as a socialist.[3]
Why wasn't it reported that Obama had been not only endorsed but actively sought out an endorsement by The New Party chicagodsa.org...
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From the October 1996 Update of the DSA 'New Party':
"New Party members are busy knocking on doors, hammering down lawn signs, and phoning voters to support NP candidates this fall. Here are some of our key races...
Illinois: Three NP-members won Democratic primaries last Spring and face off against Republican opponents on election day: Danny Davis (U.S. House), Barack Obama (State Senate) and Patricia Martin (Cook County Judiciary)."
Perhaps you could make it a priority with your well connected friends to at least look into the facts and report that the President of The United States is a socialist? Maybe? That he probably really doesn't have the countries best interests in mind as he is bankrupting the us...
Why wasn't it newsworthy that Obama IS connected to Bill Ayers Of The Weather Underground? I for one am amazed that no one thinks it is a problem that Obama is of the same mind as domestic terrorists.
Or perhaps all "journalists" think like this...
en.wikipedia.org...
Statements by JournoList members and responses
On July 20, 2010, The Daily Caller (DC) published the dialog of the JournoList concerning Jeremiah Wright.[13] The contributors discussed killing the Wright story, as it was reflecting negatively on Barack Obama. In a separate discussion, about an ABC News-sponsored debate between Obama and Hillary Clinton, Michael Tomasky, a writer for The Guardian, also tried to rally his fellow members of Journolist: “Listen folks – in my opinion, we all have to do what we can to kill ABC and this idiocy in whatever venues we have. This isn’t about defending Obama. This is about how the [mainstream media] kills any chance of discourse that actually serves the people".[13] James Taranto observed that one JournoList contributor, Spencer Ackerman of The Washington Independent, stated "If the right forces us all to either defend Wright or tear him down, no matter what we choose, we lose the game they've put upon us. Instead, take one of them – Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares –- and call them racists".
edit on 14-9-2010 by ljtg123 because: spelling
Originally posted by ClintK
All that stuff WAS investigated.
Geez get with it. Obama's "connection" to the Weather Underground was to a former member, William Ayers, and consisted of a single visit to his home, serving with him on the 9 member board of the Woods Fund and two academic panels on improving education. Oh, and Ayers made a 200 dollar contribetion to his campaign.
Ayers, btw, has a Ph.D. in education and specializes in fixing public school systems. His work with the Weather Underground was 30 years ago.
All that stuff was out. And there were reporters from FOX and the Washington Times and several other conservative news organizations who spent many weeks trying to find out if there was more. It would have made their careers. But ultimately, they realized they were wasting their time. There was no more.
But a review of just the publicly known highlights of the Ayers-Obama relationship suggests a twenty year pattern of connections between the two.
At the heart of this “Top Ten” list is the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which Ayers founded and Obama and Ayers co-chaired for five years, raising and spending at least $110 million in an effort to bolster a “radical” (Ayers’ word) reform program in the Chicago Public Schools from 1994 to 2001.
Originally posted by 2weird2live2rare2die
i disagree, look up who owns these media outlets. there is a reason that everything you see on tv is mindless garbage and borderline propaganda at best, and that is to make us a whole lot dumber than we already are. which won't be easy, we are already pretty stupid for the most part.