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Originally posted by davespanners
I would agree that there is no overriding secret group controlling every single organization, but there are a very few people in charge of most of the huge media groups in the world and it's not even a secret. Media tycoon Rupert Murdoch, owner of the Sun and the Times in the UK, Fox and the Wall Street Journal in the States for example is openly biased towards the right wing donates millions to the Republican party and with rare exception his media outlets report the news with a right wing bias.
* Fox Television: includes 22 stations, 50% of US households.
* Fox International: extensive worldwide cable and satellite networks include British Sky Broadcasting (40%); VOX, Germany (49.9%); Canal Fox, Latin America; FOXTEL, Australia (50%); STAR TV, Asia; IskyB, India; Bahasa Programming Ltd., Indonesia (50%); and News Broadcasting, Japan (80%).
* The Golf Channel (33%).
MEDIA HOLDINGS:
* Twentieth Century Fox, Fox Searchlight.
* 132 newspapers (113 in Australia alone) including the New York Post, the London Times and The Australian.
* 25 magazines including TV Guide and The Weekly Standard.
* HarperCollins books.
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Originally posted by SphinxMontreal
"What drives the content of TV news is ratings. Ratings mean money. MONEY. Believe me, it's all about the MONEY. "
"I mean you'd think all the media moguls get together with other shadowy, powerful people and discuss it. "Okay, what are we going to make the common man believe this year? How are we going to manipulate 'the people?' What lies and half truths are we going to tell?"
I don't have to be a journalist to figure out that you blatantly contradicted yourself in the above two paragraphs. What better way to make tons of money than to collude with the six other media owners in your industry to sell the people a load of hogwash like swine flu, for example.
How do these media companies make money? They make money by selling advertising space to other corporations like huge pharmaceutical companies? Do you really think that these same pharmaceutical companies would advertise on these news programs if these same media outlets were being critical of their questionable practices?
And speaking of FOX, how about this story regarding the killing of a Monsanto story? How do you explain this? It appears that not all of your colleagues subscribe to your see no evil, hear no evil approach. But then again, this is your only choice if you want to keep your job and paycheck. Like YOU said, it's all about the money.
Originally posted by SphinxMontreal
"Okay, let's hear your evidence collusion. I'm open-minded. Give evidence of collusion and I'll consider it."
OK, I cannot give you evidence but I can give you examples which point towards collusion.
1) WMD. Remember that little thing about Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq a few years back, prior to the war? Did any of the mainstream media outlets bother to investigate this lie or did they all take the false information from the Government and shove it down the public's throat like it was fact?
Originally posted by SphinxMontreal
2) 9/11. With all of the conflicting information with regards to the Official Story, has one mainstream media outlet bothered to do one hard hitting investigative piece on the subject or do they all sheepishly stray away from the issue? In fact, they attack people who investigate the official story, something which they supposedly get paid to do.
Originally posted by SphinxMontreal
I can say similar things about Swine Flu, SARS, AIDS, War on Terror, Patriot Act, Immigration Reform and all the other vital issues where the media has failed the public.
Does the lack of hard hitting investigation by the MSM on these issues point to coincidence or collusion?
Originally posted by davespanners
The MSM is made up of individual news organizations, how are we supposed to comment on one without commenting on the other. That's like asking us to comment on a forest without talking about trees.
Originally posted by davespanners
Most people apart from you haven't said anything about secret meetings or clandestine organizations in fact people have said that they don't believe this happens.
Extrapolating the point that all business is profit driven to make the point that media organizations don't have any political bias or interest in a particular political point of view at all is a stretch that is impossible to make and is demonstratively false. News papers like the Guardian aim themselves at a left leaning audience and publish stories to back up this position while "The Daily mail" goes for a right wing audience and publishes stories that go along with that bias, I don't know anyone that would deny that this occurs as it's plainly obvious.
edit on 9-9-2010 by davespanners because: My spelling is terrible
Originally posted by ClintK
Originally posted by davespanners
The MSM is made up of individual news organizations, how are we supposed to comment on one without commenting on the other. That's like asking us to comment on a forest without talking about trees.
I don't see how that's the case at all. Faulty logic. There are ten green people in town. Joe is one of them. Joe committed murder. Therefor ALL green people commit murder? That seems to be what you're saying.
The agenda of just about ANY news organization is MONEY. Print, internet, broadcast -- it doesn't matter, it's always about money. Ratings, circulation, number of hits on a web site. MONEY, MONEY, MONEY!
Originally posted by SphinxMontreal It is interesting to get some insight into what kind of people these disreputable treasonous media outlets like to hire. Not surprising in the least.