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The Satanic tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil

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posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 12:32 PM
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reply to post by WENEEDAREVOLUTION
 

I think Genesis 2 was an older document, that had a fable or whatever, that happened to include the creation of Adam, and later Eve. Sometime after that had been in circulation and had developed all kinds of offshoot theories about it, the priests decided to make another version of the creation story to correct errors that had encroached and that did not jive with the commonly understood theology among the priesthood of the Israelite nation.
So there was not an earlier general creation of a lower form of people, with a separate moment of coming into being, of a higher form. It is just two different tellings of the same events.
The detailed story (in cahapter 2) about what happened to the human race, long ago, to cause us to be living a less than ideal life, is an organic cultural item. The other story (happens to be called Chapter 1, but is later than 2, as for the actual age of a document) is a synthetic thing for a teaching to establish a fixed timeline of the creation week, and certain things about God and how he did things, in particular that the making of man was not a haphazard or accidental event but was an integral part of the creation plan.




posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by eight bits

I have to ask: "How did snake move before God command it to crawl on the ground?" (After A&E sinned).

Hey, V. Here's a follow-up question. Does God change anything in that speech?

For example, more pain in childbearing. More than what? How many children had the Woman had at that point?

Memo from engineering: baby's head, this big. Mother's birth canal, this wide. That was gonna hurt, all along.

Nice catch by the Head Designer, though. Insist that the lousy fit is really the client's fault


Hay 8-bits!

Good question. According to the Genesis, they didn't have any children by that time, IIRC. Maybe He was planning that the herons would bring the babies for humans, but changed his mind once his most precious designs had flawed


It seems as the lead designer decided it so that humans will sin - after all he could've planted the tree elsewhere. And maybe his designs were poor from beginning. He couldn't even control his own favorite trickster.

Book of Job is also amazing display of his idiotic behaviour. Though Job was a decent character with lots of understanding, even more so than god himself. I am not necessarily denying nor accepting god's existence, nor I do not know anything about him or his plans. But I think I know that Bible, although giving few good pointers, is load of crap per literal interpretation. It is merely a book, written by people whom thought they knew something about the god.

I find it quite ridiculous to claim simultanously that biblical god is perfect and that the Bible is word of god.

-v


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posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 12:51 PM
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You seem to not know what Satan is. Satan is an Angel. Angels have no free will.
www.beingjewish.com...
But it's o.k. you're an Christian. The Church needs a fake enemy to control lost souls.
www.usbible.com...
If God made the snake more cunning then all the other creatures then God is at fault from the beginning.
Gen 3:1a says God created the serpent more cunning than any of the other wild animals. With an introduction like that, let us dismiss any thoughts that it is a fallen angel; it is a wild animal.
www.usbible.com...


The Bible's similarities with Egyptian, Greek and Babylonian mythology are too close to be a coincidence. The writers weren’t isolated from other cultures and they didn’t get their ideas by sitting on some mountaintop meditating with God; they borrowed ideas from their neighbor's creation myths. The technical term is called called syncretism.

www.usbible.com...



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel



The Bible's similarities with Egyptian, Greek and Babylonian mythology are too close to be a coincidence. The writers weren’t isolated from other cultures and they didn’t get their ideas by sitting on some mountaintop meditating with God; they borrowed ideas from their neighbor's creation myths. The technical term is called called syncretism.

www.usbible.com...


Don't you know that satan himself has planted similarities on various religions of old in order to trick and confuse?

Or that's what good (indoctrinated) christians would say


Count me out


-v



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 12:57 PM
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That is what I like to laugh about. They always have a lie up their sleeve to keep followers.
Non of these religious groups from the Abrahamic faiths agree with one another so which one of them are correct?
The answer is non of them! Some Christian say they don't care about the contradictions in the Bible. They believe in national revelation or witness testimony. The what is the point with having to buy a Bible?
www.usbible.com...



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 01:06 PM
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As well.

I think it's sad, but no religion is right, nor do they have sole right on god. But I admit that religions were good for social cohesion - but now that world and nations are coming close, these traditions gone conflict and their purpose is over. Hence I think the new age stuff is coming even stronger and uniting people from various religions under same banner of faith (oh no, not this again!).

-v



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 01:17 PM
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It's really the same thing as the tree of knowlege from kabalah.
Left blue right red if you sit like the goat. The anunaki left the tree behind, it is the bad guys.
Right =reptilian
Left= what god created =human



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 01:19 PM
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My thoughts exactly. Same with magnets, maybe milk and dark chocolate mix is also satan.


 
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posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 01:21 PM
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Satan is not the adversary of god, god does not have adversaries, these are just villans running around the universe
doing as they please, messing everything up that have been created by the supreme force of the universe, the creator. They are like bloodsucking parasites, they feed on the weak, make rules, tell people how to live and are very harsh in general. It's the same tree, they play the good and the bad while god is something else. It's not the creator that created it, it's the pranksters.






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posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by nine-eyed-eel
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I agree with you that Daath is not the same concept as sexual union...while I'm hardly an expert, based on years of driveby reading on the subject, that interpretation is unusual/off...



Daath is merely the signifier of the fall. "There are 10 holy sephiroth, not 9 and not eleven". Go figure. The facts are clear. Daath only really becomes clear to practical QBL.



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 04:26 PM
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Re: Pepsi78

You wrote:

"Satan is not the adversary of god, god does not have adversaries, these are just villans running around the universe
doing as they please, messing everything up that have been created by the supreme force of the universe, the creator. They are like bloodsucking parasites, they feed on the weak, make rules, tell people how to live and are very harsh in general. It's the same tree, they play the good and the bad while god is something else. It's not the creator that created it, it's the pranksters."

And where do you have all this amazing inside information from?



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 07:45 PM
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I like your thread but what do you think about this?

Hosea 4:6
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children

There's a missing link it seems to me.



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 07:46 PM
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What part of the Bible does that verse relate too? Sounds like past Israel to me.



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 07:59 PM
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It is past but it is present and future as well because the word of God is forever. Here it is in context,

Hosea 4
1Hear the word of the LORD, ye children of Israel: for the LORD hath a controversy with the inhabitants of the land, because there is no truth, nor mercy, nor knowledge of God in the land.

2By swearing, and lying, and killing, and stealing, and committing adultery, they break out, and blood toucheth blood.

3Therefore shall the land mourn, and every one that dwelleth therein shall languish, with the beasts of the field, and with the fowls of heaven; yea, the fishes of the sea also shall be taken away.

4Yet let no man strive, nor reprove another: for thy people are as they that strive with the priest.

5Therefore shalt thou fall in the day, and the prophet also shall fall with thee in the night, and I will destroy thy mother.

6My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.



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