Originally posted by DevolutionEvolvd
*sigh* Here we go again....
If the OP is referring to the China Project....try again. The actual data suggest that PLANT proteins correlated higher with cancer than did animal protein and that wheat consumption was the best predictor of heart disease and myocardial infarction. And let's not forget...it's Epidemiology, it doesn't prove anything.
The China Study....is a book. A book that should be burned. The author, T. Colin Campbell, is a fraud and a liar. www.abovetopsecret.com...
That is all.
P.S.: Cooked meat has NEVER been proven to cause cancer. Jesus Christ, where do you guys get this stuff?
Evidence is accruing that phytoestrogens may have protective action against diverse health disorders, such as prostate, breast, bowel, and other cancers, cardiovascular disease, brain function disorders and osteoporosis, though there is no evidence to support their use in alleviating the symptoms of menopause. Phytoestrogens cannot be considered as nutrients, given that the lack of these in diet does not produce any characteristic deficiency syndrome, nor do they participate in any essential biological function
Males The use of phytoestrogens (as soy protein) in fast food meals and other processed foods as a low-cost substitute for meat products may lead to excessive consumption of isoflavonoids by fast food eaters. A research team at the Queen's University in Belfast, in a review article, speculate that such intake may lead to a slight decrease in male fertility, including a decrease in reproductive capability if isoflavones are taken in excess during childhood. In theory, exposure to high levels of phytoestrogens in males could alter their hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis. However, studies have shown that such a hormonal effect is minor. Isoflavones supplementation has no effect on sperm concentration, count or motility, and show no changes in testicular or ejaculate volume.
Originally posted by DevolutionEvolvd
reply to post by loner007
Can you honestly tell me that you could survive in the wild on a vegetarian diet? For years, that is. Because I highly doubt there is one geographical region that grows every plant you would need to receive the proper nutrients for survival. Have you ever watched....survival man?
Better yet, have you ever tried wild fruit, like an apple?
Plaque buildup begins in your early years, usually because of a diet high in fat and low in fruits and vegetables. If you regularly eat fatty foods, such as hamburgers loaded with mayonnaise, you are putting yourself at risk of cholesterol buildup. Other habits and high risk indicators, such as smoking, drinking to excess, not enough physical exercise, becoming obese around your abdomen (the "spare tire"), developing diabetes, high stress, untreated high blood pressure and blood cholesterol, are other causes that contribute to coronary disease. See link in Resources.
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Originally posted by Ong Bak
so i read an article the other day taht cited some study with thousands of men and women conducted over a period of like 25 years that showed a direct relationship between meat consumption and increased mortality rates/shorter life spans.
im not here to argue the validty of said study, im jsut wondering if the amount of people int he study, it think it was liek 50k people and the length of the study (25 years) is long enough to prove once and for all that what many well educated peopel have known for alogn time, that meat will kill you slowly, its legit?
or will meat eaters continue to deny the obvious fact that its poisoning their bodies becasue they jsut like to eat dead animals?
Originally posted by Equinox99
reply to post by DevolutionEvolvd
I never said fat and protein is what cause clogged arteries, I don't know what made you think that. Too much bad cholesterol will build up like plaque** does to teeth.
Thirdly, it is a bad idea to consume lots of meat if you don't get much exercise. That will lead to your arteries getting clogged and increase your chances to a heart attack.
People who eat two or more servings of red meat a day are much more likely to develop conditions leading to heart disease and diabetes, U.S. researchers have found.
They found eating lots of red meat increased a person's risk of suffering from a cluster of risk factors known as metabolic syndrome by 25 per cent compared to those who had only two servings of meat a week, the researchers reported in the journal Circulation.
The symptoms of metabolic syndrome include excessive fat around the waist, high cholesterol, high blood sugar and high blood pressure.
The study also found that diet soda consumption was linked to these elevated risk factors for heart disease and diabetes, echoing the findings of a study published in July.
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Steffen's team examined the diets of 9,514 people in a study funded by the National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute. In a departure from related studies, this one went into a detailed look at precisely what people were eating. Most were aged 45 to 64.
Based on a 66-item food frequency questionnaire, the volunteers were categorized into two groups: those with a "western-pattern" diet, heavy on processed meat, fried foods, red meat; and a "prudent-pattern" diet with more fruit and vegetables, with small amounts of fish and poultry.