So what are you supposed to do when a mob amasses on your front lawn?

You ask them to leave and they stay. You say you'll call the cops and they laugh at you. What are you supposed to do?

It's as if hordes of anyone can camp out on your property and you can't do anything at all about it until it's already too late to do anything about it.

Call the cops and hope they get there before it's too late I guess. Then what do the cops do? Ask the horde to leave? If they dont leave? The cops draw their guns and make arrests? Taze or spray? They can use that amount of force to get people off of your property but you cant use any force to get people off of your property?

It's this kind of crap that makes for situations like the chav's in the UK walking around completely immune to law enforcement harassing and attacking anyone they wish. Even walking onto your property and into your home to assault you without any consequence.

New York does not have a Castle Doctrine Law.

31 States have some form of Castle Doctrine and/or Stand Your Ground law. Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, California, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, West Virginia and Wyoming have adopted Castle Doctrine statutes, and other states (Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Washington) are currently considering "Stand Your Ground" laws of their own.

Virginia has this written into the states constitution.

Anyone notice what is not said in the "news article"?
How many "gang bangers" where there? What gang were they from? If any? How many where they? Were they armed? Did they threaten the guy? Were any of them arrested or just given medals by the reporter?
Got to love main stream media reports. Support the criminals at any cost. Be sure the American citizen gets slammed no matter if he was right or wrong.
Also how many have to threaten you before you are allowed to be scared for your family?
Only mistake the guy made was shooting the lawn and not the people attacking him.

This was already posted I believe. Crazy times we live in, I am surprised no one was shot or something more didn't happen.

Its an atrocity at best. I have no idea why sane people even live in NY anymore. Its the greed capital of the nation, not to mention a police state in the works. Now this man is in jail dealing with the authorities while his family is left at home defenseless. I wonder if the Union could/should excommunicate states. NY and California would be at the top of the list im sure.

I wish MO would write the Castle Doc into its Constitution.

Yeah, I did see it posted in Political news. I didnt think to look there since i wouldnt necessarly call this "political news" but all well. Mods can delete at their will.

[edit on 8-9-2010 by AzoriaCorp]

Originally posted by AzoriaCorp
Now this man is in jail dealing with the authorities while his family is left at home defenseless.

That's great. So when these punks come back to avenge their 'street cred' or to see if they can steal any of the guys other guns the only thing they'll be able to do is call the cops and hope in the 20 or so minutes it takes the cops to arrive they arent raped, beaten or killed.

Who would they blame then? The guy for getting himself arrested? The cops for holding the man? The criminals who made the attack?

Im sure they all feel so much safer knowing the home owner who wouldnt put up with criminal crap is in jail and the punks are running free.

But the law says you can only use physical force to deter physical force.

That is exactly what he was doing.

Start whining when he gets convicted, such things must be investigated.

he should have just shot every single one of them.

they threatened to kill his family this shouldnt even be an issue.

I would like to know more about these gun shot sensors. Anyone have any info on these?

Originally posted by RelentlessLurker
he should have just shot every single one of them.

they threatened to kill his family this shouldnt even be an issue.

No, he did what he did and it worked and he will be found not guilty. If he did what you suggested then he would be jailed, which would his family prefer? Most likely they would be killed in a reprisal while he is in jail. Good move son.

Have you ever killed anyone?

The man shot the only place he possibly could do so safely - into the ground.
Give him an award for common sense. I don't think he will be convicted.

They said they have 2,000 MS13 gang members in just 1 county?!!!!
They must outnumber the police there 10 to 1.

Illegal immigrants are all nice, hardworking people. Right?

Enforce the laws, secure the borders and LEAVE PEOPLE ALONE WHO ARE DEFENDING THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES!!!!!!!!!!

Since you can't protect us we have to protect ourselves.

Everyone who thinks we should all be disarmed should be thrown in a mental institution for being suicidal.

Originally posted by Asktheanimals
The man shot the only place he possibly could do so safely - into the ground.
Give him an award for common sense. I don't think he will be convicted.

They said they have 2,000 MS13 gang members in just 1 county?!!!!
They must outnumber the police there 10 to 1.

Illegal immigrants are all nice, hardworking people. Right?

Enforce the laws, secure the borders and LEAVE PEOPLE ALONE WHO ARE DEFENDING THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES!!!!!!!!!!

Since you can't protect us we have to protect ourselves.

Everyone who thinks we should all be disarmed should be thrown in a mental institution for being suicidal.

I still think its ridiculous that he's even jailed. To me thats the real crime. After his arrest are the police offering around the clock protection for his family until his trial? Highly unlikely...

Originally posted by RelentlessLurker
he should have just shot every single one of them.

they threatened to kill his family this shouldn't even be an issue.

Unfortunately in a progressive society it is.

BTW, it's a semi auto variant of a ak47, not a "AK47". It's a legal semiauto no matter how the media tries to portray it. It also must have been registered because the article says he wasn't arrested for the weapon, only the discharge. Which is BS, this man and his families lives were threatened. He should have rattled off the 30 round clip, all head shots then given a medal and the key to the city.

Pathetic.



[edit on 8-9-2010 by Tyr Sog]