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posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by Exuberant1
Can you envision how it might be useful?


I seriously doubt he can envision anything...

BTW did I ever show you the report I got from an associate group of viewers trained by PsiTech? It was a five viewer team... I think you will like it...
It freaked out the team... they did not expect what they found. It was so shocking to them that the report is still confidential... yeah I mention it here as a teaser


Oh yeah! I know already. Bathing Martian beauties on Cydonia!
But why keep it confidential? .




posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by OrionHunterX

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by Exuberant1
Can you envision how it might be useful?


I seriously doubt he can envision anything...

BTW did I ever show you the report I got from an associate group of viewers trained by PsiTech? It was a five viewer team... I think you will like it...
It freaked out the team... they did not expect what they found. It was so shocking to them that the report is still confidential... yeah I mention it here as a teaser


Oh yeah! I know already. Bathing Martian beauties on Cydonia!
But why keep it confidential? .


Let me actually link you to the Ingo Swann information. Read it, at least part of it, before making any further comments. You aren't adding much to the dicussion.

Superpowers Of The Human Biomind

It is kept confidential for the purpose of control. Would you welcome the idea of people being able to read your intentions/thoughts? The more you use subterfuge in your daily life, the more you would oppose such notions. The government is no different. They rely on subterfuge.



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 07:57 PM
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I'm starting to have a different take on Mars. Is it possible we evolved together but unknown to each other? But for some reason they destroyed their planet first? That big hole on Mars makes me think they went underground.



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by Exuberant1
reply to post by zorgon
 


I don't remember you showing it to me but I can remember you had mentioned it before.

Perhaps you could sent me the link, I would very much like to give it a read.


Yeah, what he said!

(*trying to come up with something clever for this line.....still trying.....*)



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by OrionHunterX
Oh yeah! I know already. Bathing Martian beauties on Cydonia!


Well that is pretty good seeing as Cydonia is on Mars not Venus...


But why keep it confidential? .


Your posts are reason enough



posted on Sep, 17 2010 @ 10:08 PM
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I subscribe to the Ancient Alien theory. I had a talk with my dad the other day and posed the question: Is Exodus (from the bible) describing the Great Move from Mars to Earth? And in Genesis , could "God created the Heavens and Earth" really meant the E.T. race was terraforming a new planet Earth because Mars had become inhabital?




edit on 17-9-2010 by ButterCookie because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 18 2010 @ 01:25 AM
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Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by OrionHunterX
Oh yeah! I know already. Bathing Martian beauties on Cydonia!

Well that is pretty good seeing as Cydonia is on Mars not Venus...

Ooops!
Did you mean Venus? Ok, so these so called remote viewers claim they saw something on Venus that stunned them? What was it? Ah that must be top secret, yes? In other words, we'll never know. Or did they see John Lear sitting with a Martini on a hot Venus rock?



posted on Sep, 18 2010 @ 02:13 AM
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Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
Let me actually link you to the Ingo Swann information. Read it, at least part of it, before making any further comments.
Superpowers Of The Human Biomind

Oh darn! $23 plus shipping!
Do you have a spare copy you could lend me?


Ingo is a "former spook" going directly from Scientology's secret levels straight into CIA's 'Remote Viewing Program'--which bears an uncanny resemblance to parts of Scientology itself! Scientology? Does the name L. Ron Hubbard ring a bell? Scientology's belief that souls ("Thetans") reincarnate and have lived on other planets before living on Earth is balderdash! And Ingo Swann claims to be a Class VII Operating Thetan, a founder of the Scientology [Celebrity] Center in Los Angeles! Hmmmm....Now which planet am I from?


Another so called remote viewer, Major Ed Dames sells CIA-developed "Technical Remote Viewing" through his company, PSI Tech. His 9-day courses once sold for--as he put it--"Forty-five hundred dollars ($4,500.00) a pop." Estimated revenues from that amount to millions. Now he hawks sets of videotapes, the full set selling for $299.90. Given Dames's own current estimate of 10,000 students, that alone rounds out to a cool $3-million!!

Now if that ain't a scam of galactic proportions, I dunno what is!



posted on Sep, 18 2010 @ 02:44 AM
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How is it a scam?

If he is still operating, how is he breaking the law?



posted on Sep, 18 2010 @ 03:43 AM
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Originally posted by threadworm


It claims that the objects seen have been worked out at exactly 800 feet apart (by whom?). .


Just to once again confirm what ArMap already said: Saying that they are 800 feet apart was a mistake, I was wrong. I dont know how far apart they are.

I still stand by the statement that these objects and others not shown here, are equally spaced.


edit on 18-9-2010 by Skyfloating because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 18 2010 @ 03:52 AM
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Originally posted by ButterCookie
And in Genesis , could "God created the Heavens and Earth" really meant the E.T. race was terraforming a new planet Earth because Mars had become inhabital?


If God existed out there before the Earth was made, would that not make God and ET?

Not only terra forming.. a little genetic manipulation as well

Gen 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness

Gen 1:27, "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them

Always liked that part



posted on Sep, 18 2010 @ 04:18 AM
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Originally posted by OrionHunterX
Does the name L. Ron Hubbard ring a bell? Scientology's belief that souls ("Thetans") reincarnate and have lived on other planets before living on Earth is balderdash!


Just curious, because I am very interested in the big question if we humans do have a soul or not, and if so, what will happen with that soul when we eventually die.

And because you seem to know for shore that Scientology's belief that souls ("Thetans") reincarnate and have lived on other planets before living on Earth is balderdash, I assume that you can explain why you think or are convinced that it is balderdash?



posted on Sep, 18 2010 @ 06:38 AM
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Originally posted by spacevisitor
And because you seem to know for shore that Scientology's belief that souls ("Thetans") reincarnate and have lived on other planets before living on Earth is balderdash, I assume that you can explain why you think or are convinced that it is balderdash?

Yep! That means the Solar System is teeming with life! Heck, those Venusians must be pretty to look at! And needless to say, them Mercurians would be jet black considering they are 100% sun burnt! Neptunians would be class swimmers seeing they live on a 'water world'. And those fellas on the minor planet Pluto would be frigid midgets with tacit digits!


I could go on, but I thought this thread was about 'Ancient Mars'?





edit on 18-9-2010 by OrionHunterX because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 18 2010 @ 08:29 AM
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Originally posted by OrionHunterX

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
Let me actually link you to the Ingo Swann information. Read it, at least part of it, before making any further comments.
Superpowers Of The Human Biomind

Oh darn! $23 plus shipping!
Do you have a spare copy you could lend me?


as a matter of fact, it is all on his website. For free. He may have some books he is selling, i am unsure. but there are over 2000 pages of his research. Attempt to ridicule all you want. It is only making you appear pedantic and trollish. I could care less. I am trying to provide you real information in earnest. Slap the hand away all you want.

Obvious troll is obvious.




Ingo is a "former spook" going directly from Scientology's secret levels straight into CIA's 'Remote Viewing Program'--which bears an uncanny resemblance to parts of Scientology itself! Scientology? Does the name L. Ron Hubbard ring a bell? Scientology's belief that souls ("Thetans") reincarnate and have lived on other planets before living on Earth is balderdash! And Ingo Swann claims to be a Class VII Operating Thetan, a founder of the Scientology [Celebrity] Center in Los Angeles! Hmmmm....Now which planet am I from?


Ingo was never a scientologist. Of course, you saying that tells me all I need to know.

For anyone interested in the truth, somewhere on the website I linked to above he covers the year or two he spent associating with Scientologists, before he got fed up with their behavior and their trifling in his research.

I suppose you got your information from someone (who was not involved with Ingo, SRI, or Puthoff) instead of taking a few moments to research the facts.



Another so called remote viewer, Major Ed Dames sells CIA-developed "Technical Remote Viewing" through his company, PSI Tech. His 9-day courses once sold for--as he put it--"Forty-five hundred dollars ($4,500.00) a pop." Estimated revenues from that amount to millions. Now he hawks sets of videotapes, the full set selling for $299.90. Given Dames's own current estimate of 10,000 students, that alone rounds out to a cool $3-million!!

Now if that ain't a scam of galactic proportions, I dunno what is!


And what does this have to do with SRI, Ingo Swann, or Dr. Hal Puthoff?

Your use of fallacy in debate only goes that much further to degrade your reputation and position.


edit on 18-9-2010 by bigfatfurrytexan because: tried to clarify so the troll will have one less nitpick.



posted on Sep, 18 2010 @ 08:35 AM
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Originally posted by spacevisitor

Originally posted by OrionHunterX
Does the name L. Ron Hubbard ring a bell? Scientology's belief that souls ("Thetans") reincarnate and have lived on other planets before living on Earth is balderdash!


Just curious, because I am very interested in the big question if we humans do have a soul or not, and if so, what will happen with that soul when we eventually die.

And because you seem to know for shore that Scientology's belief that souls ("Thetans") reincarnate and have lived on other planets before living on Earth is balderdash, I assume that you can explain why you think or are convinced that it is balderdash?



hmmm...good question.


Originally posted by OrionHunterX

Originally posted by spacevisitor
And because you seem to know for shore that Scientology's belief that souls ("Thetans") reincarnate and have lived on other planets before living on Earth is balderdash, I assume that you can explain why you think or are convinced that it is balderdash?

Yep! That means the Solar System is teeming with life! Heck, those Venusians must be pretty to look at! And needless to say, them Mercurians would be jet black considering they are 100% sun burnt! Neptunians would be class swimmers seeing they live on a 'water world'. And those fellas on the minor planet Pluto would be frigid midgets with tacit digits!


I could go on, but I thought this thread was about 'Ancient Mars'?





edit on 18-9-2010 by OrionHunterX because: (no reason given)



I guess not.

This thread IS about ancient Mars. But even more, this FORUM is about Denying Ignorance. You are offering nothing of value to the thread, other than sarcasm from the peanut gallery.

Someone presented evidence, and the only refutation that you could provide was ad hominem? That, my friend, is the very definition of a portrayal of ignorance.



posted on Sep, 18 2010 @ 09:17 AM
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Originally posted by fooks
reply to post by spacevisitor
 


the only thing i can think of is, the gov knows there are aliens and like the moon rumor where we were warned off,

it is the same for the rest of space! lol.

they tell us where to land some stuff and take pics, like going to north korea.

how can they, our governments, tell us we are basically confined to earth and can't do a dam thing about it!

i guess this sounds like the prison planet, never had read any of the threads on that. sorry.


For some reason I have missed your post, but regarding your last remark I would say, take a look if you want at this thread of sleeper because he seems to know that Earth is indeed a kind of prison planet.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

And looking around what has happened and still is happening on this planet, and knowing what I know today, I think he could be right.



posted on Sep, 18 2010 @ 09:39 AM
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Originally posted by spacevisitor
...take a look if you want at this thread of sleeper because he seems to know that Earth is indeed a kind of prison planet.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Sleeper? The guy who was debunked a billion years ago? He's a joke! And Earth a 'prison planet'?
Who and where are the jailers? Probably doing the jail house rock in Vegas!



posted on Sep, 18 2010 @ 10:05 AM
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Originally posted by OrionHunterX

Originally posted by spacevisitor
...take a look if you want at this thread of sleeper because he seems to know that Earth is indeed a kind of prison planet.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Sleeper? The guy who was debunked a billion years ago? He's a joke! And Earth a 'prison planet'?
Who and where are the jailers? Probably doing the jail house rock in Vegas!


Thanks for confirming my correct decision for starring bigfatfurrytexan’s post here.

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan
 



posted on Sep, 18 2010 @ 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by spacevisitor

Originally posted by fooks
reply to post by spacevisitor
 


the only thing i can think of is, the gov knows there are aliens and like the moon rumor where we were warned off,

it is the same for the rest of space! lol.

they tell us where to land some stuff and take pics, like going to north korea.

how can they, our governments, tell us we are basically confined to earth and can't do a dam thing about it!

i guess this sounds like the prison planet, never had read any of the threads on that. sorry.


For some reason I have missed your post, but regarding your last remark I would say, take a look if you want at this thread of sleeper because he seems to know that Earth is indeed a kind of prison planet.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

And looking around what has happened and still is happening on this planet, and knowing what I know today, I think he could be right.






sorry mods, i need to do the whole quote coz i am old.

i was suggesting that we are being monitored in a real sense.

can't/won't go back to the moon, just flyovers.

60 day working rovers lasting years. 16miles on the ground and no audio!!

1/2 of the probes sent to mars fail while we can bullseye comets and asteroids.

cameras that can see 14bil light years but can't get good color or resolution in front of their face coz they don't need that kind of info.

constant no can do attitude.

lets figure out the rocks first, mind-set. well rocks maybe the key to all life, ok, lol.

let's get out there and study rocks coz there is no sense to look for life while we are at it.

and many other nonsensical things that have come up.

we are pretty stupid or something is dictating our space programs. bah!



posted on Sep, 18 2010 @ 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by fooks
60 day working rovers lasting years. 16miles on the ground and no audio!!

I think it was 90 days, not 60.
And why do you want audio? To ear the wind?



1/2 of the probes sent to mars fail while we can bullseye comets and asteroids.

The success rate is getting better with the latest missions.


cameras that can see 14bil light years but can't get good color or resolution in front of their face coz they don't need that kind of info.

The resolution is good, the colour is superfluous, the monochromatic cameras are more versatile.


lets figure out the rocks first, mind-set. well rocks maybe the key to all life, ok, lol.

Rocks may give us the clues to what happened, looking for life that we do not know what it looks like would be more difficult, but I think it was already done.



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