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New Talk On The Physics Of Consciousness With Steven Greer

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posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 08:01 AM
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C'mon guys! Cut out the Greer bashing for God's sake!! Look what you guys have done to him....





posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 10:03 AM
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Just dropping by to see if Disclosure is happening yet.
Anything OP?

I noticed you have started another Greer love fest/PR campaign regarding the "Physics of Consciousness".
Does that mean Disclosure is off?

You really got me excited though, because I was thinking awesome, Roger Penrose and The Emperors New Mind or wondering how Greer would explain matter and its motion through space-time whilst also discussing energy and force( I guess I should just say Physics), and how these effect an alert cognitive state in which you are aware of yourself and your situation or in other words being conscious, as well as the the continuous flow of ideas and feelings that constitute an individual's conscious experience.


Unfortunately, all I got from your link was Greer channelling a L.Ron Hubbardesque psycho babble session. I could have learnt more watching Jackass II in fast forward whilst smoking my own toe nail jam.

Let me break it down.
6.10. Greer advertising himself and Dick Hoaxland as well as his Orion Buddies.

7.33 Greer answers his first question with an Advert for Cseti wow.
7.43 Claims there is a nexus between Ancient "datas and teachings in consciousness or Modern Physics".
Greer says: "Non-Locality or conscious awareness as it exists beyond linear space-time and it does have to do with the physics because when you are dealing with these energy systems ahh.. that deal with so called zero point energy and free energy you are really tapping into a hyperdimensional physics thats very related to these other dimensions and consciousness is off course the foundation, I think, of what all of space time matter is emanating from and umm, some people would call this the supreme being but in reality rather than anthropocentrically sort of framing it that way, I would say that the conscious mind itself is always an infinite field of awareness and energy and it actually then passes through various dimensions into space time and matter".

Let me just point out one obvious problem I have. Greer brings up the point relating the Anthropocentric mindset, especially in terms of concepts relating to consciousness. Greer makes a fundamental error of applying aspects, beliefs and subjective knowledge of consciousness as we experience it onto the universe itself and laying it as a foundation for the entire universe, and the other "hyperdimensional" aspects he informs the listener about.
This in and of itself, is totally anthropomorphic in nature. Greer is projecting consciousness, something we experience, onto the universe as well as making it fundamental to the existence of the entire universe.

Secondly, Greer brings up "Nonlocality or conscious awareness as it exists beyond linear space-time". Besides the appalling theft of the term Nonlocality from Classical Physics as well as Quantum Physics, all quantum events rely on time. And so our own Consciousness as we know it, relies on time too. But who actually says this is so in order to make sense of the world, and not merely because that is how the universe is. More anthropomorphism of the universe?

If the universe is conscious in a nonlinear sense, then it should be disorganized. As there would be no sense to itself or any manifestation of it, it would be chaos. We experience the universe in a linear sense, not in chunks of dis-organized vectors of time. If as Greer puts it, the foundation of all matter, space and time as is a infinite consciousness and energy outside of linear space-time, then why do our own consciousness have to be reliant on it, why does space-time have to be linear at all?

Anyway.
Greer goes on to talk about Science and the Science of Consciousness in relation to Energy etc. Also he claims this is the future.
But Dan Brown beat him too it.
So did What the Bleep do we know! By years.
Go look up Noetics.
Greer is ripping of the synthesis of spiritualism and quantum physics/science whilst trying to "reBrand" his free energy and Cseti cash cows with these new trends.

Perhaps injecting Objectivism(Ayn Rand) as a serious counter argument to Greer would be a massive waste of time.



That year, I began to have experiences that brought the infinite Being into this world. I could see a rock and know that it also contains pure awareness.












edit on 10/9/10 by atlasastro because: to organize my dis-organized non linear space time consciousness mistakes.



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 03:42 PM
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Let's say for the sake of argument that certain governments do have information and technology from aliens. In the current political and economic conditions on earth, how much of this should be disclosed and how widely should it be shared? Should it be "shared" with North Korea, Iran and the Taliban, for example, or with the goons who run Burma?

This is a problem.



posted on Sep, 15 2010 @ 07:54 AM
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Here's all you need to know about Greer. Seriously.

dB



posted on Sep, 15 2010 @ 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by torsion

Originally posted by Bob Down Under
I have one of Greers old socks would anyone like to purchase it for say $3000?


Is it moth-eaten, by any chance?



Yep! and Mabe....Maybe... not has the the guilty moth photo to prove it so thats another grand on top.

Also I have a once used original vector in an alien EverReady Dolphin Torch with a used sticky sleeping bag? Ewwwww!!!



posted on Feb, 11 2011 @ 11:27 AM
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I thought this deserved a bump, what a great thread.


Someone send Greer more money !



posted on Feb, 11 2011 @ 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by rajaten
omg like srsly guys show some respect for the man!

He has done more for exopolitics than any of you.



[edit on 8-9-2010 by rajaten]


Exopolitics ? Shouldn't that have read " Exploitation" ?







 
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