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posted on Jun, 22 2004 @ 08:09 AM
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Region about to become 'another Rwanda' at hands of Islamic regime

2004 WorldNetDaily.com
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The world is ignoring the specter of systematic genocide by a radical Islamic regime, according to a report in Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin.
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According to this article around two million have died, either from starvation or war itself since 1983. The refugees number about 5 million. This is ethnic cleansing at its worst and borders on genocide by U.N. Law. Just as in the Sudan (who the liberal socialist in the U.N. re-elected to the executive committee of the U.N. Human Rights Commission), Ethiopia, and other areas in Africa controlled by Islam, the bloodbath is generally being ignored by the civilized world.

I am sure the liberal Blame America First people will figure out someway to blame this horror on Americans or Bush by declaring we use too much of the worlds recourses or some other idiotic reason they all too often use, but the blame lays directly at the feet of the useless United Nations and the countries who have the power and recourses to change things..

It appears that to the U.N. and other socialist that non-Moslem blacks in Africa are maybe a little less equal than, shall we say the Palestinians who are held high on the food chain of persecuted groups by the U.N. Maybe it is just that the blacks dying in Africa are Christian instead of Moslems in these Islamic controlled areas.

Though America has sent billions of dollars worth of food, medical supplies, and other aid to Africa, far more than the rest of the world combined, Im sure it is our fault somehow. It grieves my heart to know this is only the beginning of the destruction of non Islam Africa by the barbarian hoards of Islam marching across the cotenant.

I do however, think it quite ironic that the one major group of people who have it in their power to help (other than America) are themselves being invaded by Islam and when the time is right and the numbers of Moslems are high enough, will experience the same thing. I hope America remembers Europe then.

One cant help but wonder if the Powers That Be of the world, i.e. The Banksters, consider African Blacks useless feeders and wish them gone. The world turns its back on millions of Christians murdered by Moslems in Africa while condemning little Israel for killing hundreds people, mostly terrorist, for killing their children and their old.

Even in America, the one voice that should be shouting to the heavens above for justice, the black leaders are strangely quiet. I guess helping fellow blacks in far away Africa does not pay as well as race baiting!

To let these poor disadvantaged blacks in Africa suffer as they do is a blight against humanity in general. Will we never learn?

Ghostwolfemoon




posted on Jun, 22 2004 @ 08:20 AM
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While this post is pretty much
and it is full of generalisation and ignorance, it does raise a very important issue of the situation in Africa.

Let us not forget why that continent is messed up: colonisation, slavery, European countries and USA came, conquered, butchered, stole the resources, put dictators in power so they can control them ( let us not forget that even Reagan supported Apartheid in South Aftrica ), then at some point stupid white men got tired of it and just left, leaving the continent in complete disaray and occasionaly throwing sacks of wheat, instead of taeching those people how to make it themselves.
Now another tyranical regimes are taking over there and again nobody cares that much. That whole mess is a responsibility of EUROPE and USA and they should see to it that it is resolved. THat is in ideal world anyway. I real world they don't give a # and are still supprting tyranical regimes, still stealing, plundering now with new names like " cheap labor ", outsorcing, they pay 2-3$ a day and actually have the nerves to call it a good deed, a HELP to those people


bah, I am angry now....



posted on Jun, 22 2004 @ 08:27 AM
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I agree with most of your points and feel the same disgust you do about this. I can answer why the UN doesn't seem very concerned about this. There is no money in it for them. No Oil for Food Program in Sudan.

If the US actually tried to go in and stop the violence there, the rest of the world would condemn us for killing a few while forgetting the 2 million killed by Islam. I agree that Europe will shortly be too busy defending their own systems from Islam to be too worried about what happens to the Sudan.

I expect you are right. There are people out there right now trying to figure a way to somehow blame the US for this like it gets blamed for every other Evil in the world. Damned if ya do, damned if you don't.

Yes, it's a sad situation but perhaps the world needs a demonstration of what Islam unchecked will do if not opposed. 2 million dead? There is the real heart of Islam for ya folks. You people in Europe take a good look. You are next.


[edit added after reading new post] Ha! See, I knew it wouldn't take long for the USA bashers to crawl out. Sure man. It's all our fault. [edit end]

[edit on 22-6-2004 by Ambient Sound]



posted on Jun, 22 2004 @ 08:28 AM
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just like Bosnia, if there is no material gain in it "civilized" world simply turns its back...

this is our cancer



posted on Jun, 22 2004 @ 08:40 AM
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People tend to forget history when it comes to the evils of one religion to the other, it is sad what South African is suffering and seem like nobody cares, as long as the oil supplies for Africa keep flowing.

US always come to the rescue at the end like a big brother but just after most of the damage is done, remember US interest is not on the poor parts of the country but rather the rich oil land in Africa, does are well protected.

As for Islamic radical spreading destruction well that is why they are Islamic radicals they are to seek and destroy and spread their terror and the best way to do it is using poor non protected areas like South Africa.

They are killing Christians, and yes, we forget that Christianity was not such a beautiful thing after all when they came to the Americas and spread the seed of the lord Jesus to the heathen natives and kill their beliefs and Christianity was spread through the new world in blood and pain. So sometimes our mind get fuzzy went it comes to historical facts.

Sometimes the world we live in seem overwhelming to us but this things like suffering has been around since man has woked the earth, and it seems to me that we did not fix this problem then and we will not fix it now.

And as the world gets smaller and more popullated we will see more of this.


And this is my point of view.



posted on Jun, 22 2004 @ 08:46 AM
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Originally posted by Ambient Sound



[edit added after reading new post] Ha! See, I knew it wouldn't take long for the USA bashers to crawl out. Sure man. It's all our fault. [edit end]

[edit on 22-6-2004 by Ambient Sound]


Are you saying that USA didn't enslave that continent? that Europe didn't colonize it? That they didnt support dictators? Take a look at various pics of american and european diplomats and presidents shaking hand with butchers. Ask NIKE where do they make their shoes and how much do they pay kids to do it. That being only one example.
Nelson Mendela was considered a TERRORIST, western goverments labeled him and his freedom movement as terrorist organisation. That wasn't in some distant past in 16th century, that was in democratic, justful, freedom loving 20th century. Now that another tyranical regime is replacing the old ones, those who are responsible for the whole mess simply don't care. They are quite ok with it, as long as the good capitalists can exploit the cheap work force there



posted on Jun, 22 2004 @ 08:58 AM
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Yes the world is ignoring genocide in Sudan, because the people dying even though they are Christians, they are black.

Yes the majority of Christians killed in Sudan are black and no one sees it as a genocide of the black people....they ignore the most basic fact and look to religion as the reason, because the religion is the excuse that humanity uses to get out of acknowledging their wrongs.

btw for those who don't know, Sudan's population of over 39 million people is 52% black and 39% arabs.

the religion 70% Sunni Muslim, 25% indigenous, and 5% Christians.



posted on Jun, 22 2004 @ 09:03 AM
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You guys want to send soldiers down there? You might remember what western countries had to face in Somalia, Kongo, Rwanda and many many more.

Hell, little children with AK's who don't hesitate a second to kill you and later do some nasty stuff with your dead body


It has come to a point where military intervention would not have an actual effect. Something has to change in the minds of those people.

[edit on 22-6-2004 by shoo]



posted on Jun, 22 2004 @ 09:13 AM
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In what way exactly and when did the USA enslave the African Continent? Please be specific. I don't see the USA having any colonies there, although a lot of European countries did. It is absurdly hypocritical that these same countries like France, Spain, and the rest of the former European Empires now accuse the US of being imperialistic.

Do you realise that most of the harm done by White Europeans in Africa was before the US was even a country? I suppose it was still our fault though, huh? No, Africa is messed up for many different reasons, not the least of which is the fact that they all seem to be preoccupied with killing each other and making children as quickly as possible to provide more people to kill. Of course you find this situation just about everywhere that Islam encouters other religions or creeds.

So again, I ask you, in what specific way has the USA caused Islamic butchers to slaughter 2 million people in Africa?


[edit on 22-6-2004 by Ambient Sound]



posted on Jun, 22 2004 @ 09:36 AM
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Someone once said that it is much better to keep ones mouth shut and leave poeple wondering how much of a fool you are rather than to open your mouth and remove all doubts.

Paperclip, I have absolutely no idea what either of your post have to do with Islam butchering millions and millions of black Africans.



posted on Jun, 22 2004 @ 09:49 AM
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Sure the world's ignoring this. This world likes soap opera's and the old cliche' of "whats hot and whats not". Guess "whats hot" and "whats not"? Try "hot"= Abu Ghraib, the continued spew on the US in Iraq, Bush, and how terrorism is 'this and that', and "not"= the genocide that is taking place in Sudan and a number of other countries in Africa. I brought up a similiar type discussion when Sudan was voted onto the United Nation's Human Rights Commission!! WTF? And yet no serious acknowledgement or recognization or condemnations of what is transpiring in Sudan, and as mentioned, in other like countries in that geographical location....*shakes head*
U.S. Walks Out as Sudan Elected to U.N. Rights Body.



seekerof



posted on Jun, 22 2004 @ 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by Ambient Sound
In what way exactly and when did the USA enslave the African Continent? Please be specific. I don't see the USA having any colonies there, although a lot of European countries did. It is absurdly hypocritical that these same countries like France, Spain, and the rest of the former European Empires now accuse the US of being imperialistic.

Do you realise that most of the harm done by White Europeans in Africa was before the US was even a country? I suppose it was still our fault though, huh? No, Africa is messed up for many different reasons, not the least of which is the fact that they all seem to be preoccupied with killing each other and making children as quickly as possible to provide more people to kill. Of course you find this situation just about everywhere that Islam encouters other religions or creeds.

So again, I ask you, in what specific way has the USA caused Islamic butchers to slaughter 2 million people in Africa?


[edit on 22-6-2004 by Ambient Sound]


I see european colonisation of parts of Africa as a positive thing, they introduced decent education systems, modern medicine, built the intrastructure (roads, water etc), and basicly brought the country out of the stone age. However, now that Britain has given the power back to the Africans the place has become a hellhole. The sad fact is that Africans are not yet ready to govern themselves.



posted on Jun, 22 2004 @ 12:58 PM
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Why does it always go to a history lesson which ends in White People (Especially Those Who Are Now Americans(Who Probably Support Bush)) Are To Blame For Everything? Bottom line: Africans were willing to sell their own people into slavery to Whites and Whites were willing to buy. End of history lesson. It has nothing to do with what's happening RIGHT NOW. If you have to look back a few hundred (or more) years to lay blame properly then I'd suggest that there needs to be some focus.

The very fact that the UN has given these people a position of authority in spite of their human rights violations tells me that the UN is not the answer to any of the problems going on right now in the world. Nobody wants to spend any money, send troops anywhere or make anyone mad, so nothing will get done.



posted on Jun, 22 2004 @ 05:37 PM
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SiRiNO and torque mentioned some good points. Most important probably: those kind of violence has been there since hundred of years. Should make people reconsider yelling the usual "it's because of the USA and european countries"-song



posted on Jun, 22 2004 @ 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by SiRiNO

I see european colonisation of parts of Africa as a positive thing, they introduced decent education systems, modern medicine, built the intrastructure (roads, water etc), and basicly brought the country out of the stone age. However, now that Britain has given the power back to the Africans the place has become a hellhole. The sad fact is that Africans are not yet ready to govern themselves.


A decent education system? For whom? That's like stating the US gave the blacks a decent education under the 'separate but equal' days.

Modern medicine? They sure as hell must of took it with them when they left, the infant mortality rate is Africa is horrendous. Maybe they are not ready to care for their young?

Roads, water? Who did they build the roads for? Who can afford a car? Water? Do you think the Europeans just 'dropped off the keys' to their countries and left? Were the blacks in America, 'not ready for freedom'? African issues, like most things in life, are enormousy complex. Unfortunately, people tend to simplify things to suit their own personal outlook of the world. Instead of trying to tie some sort of Darwinian answer to the worlds problems, people need to look at cause and effect.



posted on Jun, 22 2004 @ 06:14 PM
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Originally posted by curme
A decent education system? For whom? That's like stating the US gave the blacks a decent education under the 'separate but equal' days.

Modern medicine? They sure as hell must of took it with them when they left, the infant mortality rate is Africa is horrendous. Maybe they are not ready to care for their young?

Roads, water? Who did they build the roads for? Who can afford a car? Water? Do you think the Europeans just 'dropped off the keys' to their countries and left? Were the blacks in America, 'not ready for freedom'? African issues, like most things in life, are enormousy complex. Unfortunately, people tend to simplify things to suit their own personal outlook of the world. Instead of trying to tie some sort of Darwinian answer to the worlds problems, people need to look at cause and effect.


yes we should, such as the leader of zimbabwe which took all the farms from white people and then turned them over to his own supporters and they havent done squat with them except let them go unused and they are now and have been since this happened looking at an enormous food shortage.

while they might have been white the fact they were producing a ton of food then compared to very few who are producing very little now because he felt that simply "giving the land back to his people" was going to cure all the problems yet it only created another one, famine.

yes cause and effect should be looked at more closely.

[edit on 23-6-2004 by ThePrankMonkey]



posted on Jun, 22 2004 @ 08:08 PM
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Of course the world is going to ignore whatever goes on in Africa. Though I consider myself a democrat and for the most part liked Clinton he was an ahole for now going into Rwanda to stop the genocide that went on there when he went to Bosnia to do the same.

Then again why should I be surprised at these actions by both republicans/democrats? I mean nothing but a bunch of dumb negros in Africa right
I gurantee you if this country discovered 3 times the oil amounts of Iraq somewhere in Africa they'd all the sudden have "deep compassion, and concern for the fate of those in Africa"
And people wonder why this country can be hated so much, damn selfish, hypocrital policies. Or if Africa consisted of 90% whites they'd be in there in a heartbeat to stop any problems going on. Only reason America/Europe ect. are even in the Middle East is b/c of oil b/c if the oil deposist weren't there they wouldn't give a damn about secruity in that region.



posted on Jun, 22 2004 @ 08:13 PM
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I see european colonisation of parts of Africa as a positive thing, they introduced decent education systems, modern medicine, built the intrastructure (roads, water etc), and basicly brought the country out of the stone age. However, now that Britain has given the power back to the Africans the place has become a hellhole. The sad fact is that Africans are not yet ready to govern themselves.


Wow what a stupid ignorant comment that I'd expect from a white man (most likely conservative/republican one). Okay how about this, I'll enslave the whole freaking white race, hang them from trees, treat them like dirt, make them do slave labor for free, rape the wives while the husbands work the fields, seperate families and let me see how the hell you like it. Geez and I thought I had seen it all. And anyone who agrees with you is an ahole in my opinion. Man this is one reason I don't vote republican, people with outdated thoughts like yours.

Africa was destroyed b/c it's people were taken away from it. Divide and conquer works everytime.



posted on Jun, 22 2004 @ 08:15 PM
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*WARNING: DISGUSTING NEWS OFF SITE LINK* NO KIDS PLEASE

Sometimes news comes our way and we can but shake our heads and wonder why. This story will rip your heart out...I can't even imagine anything worse to ever have to report!

The following is an excerpt from the story at Etherzone with the link below the story.


THE RAPE OF A NATION THE SHAME OF A NATION

By: Cindy-Lou Dale

If the future of a country is said to lie in its children, why then is South Africa so determined to obliterate and defile theirs?

The violent culture in South Africa has bred another abomination - babies are being raped, infected with HIV/AIDS and then dumped in trash cans and garbage dumps. These latest victims cannot say no - they are too young to speak or walk.

Police statistics state that 58 babies are raped daily; this number could effectively be doubled as Interpol warns that upward of 50% of serious crime goes unreported.

"Political correctness, Marxism, the Mandela myth, race-blame and affirmative action be damned there are tribal medicine men that have the bizarre belief that sex with a virgin, even a baby, will cure HIV/AIDS," says Phillip and Pat Van Rensburg, a Cape Town couple who have turned their home into a hospital called "Little Angels" and rescue victims of baby rape.

Some baby rapists have gone beyond penile penetration, pushing broken bottle tops or sticks into the victims vagina. (SNIP)

www.etherzone.com...
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This is an example of what happens when the commie liberals take over, especially in Africa. We have watched the once great Rhodesia now Zimbabwe turn from a food exporter to a country unable to feed itself. Even under the Apartheid, people had food, medical care, and some justice. Now all they have is starvation at best and cruel murder at worst. South Africa is following in the footsteps of Zimbabwe.

South Africa was punished for Apartheid and now look at the outcome of the so called civilized worlds pushing Mandela into leadership. It is the rape capital of the world where none are safe.

Where is the outcry of Americas Black Leadership? I can't help but wonder if the Powers That Be have in their sick design, the depopulation of Africa for it's future. Always remember Cecil Rhodes, creator of the Rhodes Scholarships of which many of our leaders, like Bill Klinton, lust for and receive, was one of the most racist anti black people there has ever been.

Between the millions upon millions of black Africans murdered by Islam, the AIDS situation, which some think was unleashed on purpose, to the many wars in progress, to mass starvation, to such as this is South Africa leads a thinking person to believe the destabilization Africa is on purpose.

I suppose average American white folks will be somehow blamed for it all too. They are usually blamed for the shortcomings of all others, yet never get any credit for pumping billions into Africa in humanitarian aid.

Ghostwolfemoon



posted on Jun, 22 2004 @ 08:37 PM
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This link is getting interesting!



Wow what a stupid ignorant comment that I'd expect from a white man (most likely conservative/republican one). Okay how about this, I'll enslave the whole freaking white race, hang them from trees, treat them like dirt, make them do slave labor for free, rape the wives while the husbands work the fields, seperate families and let me see how the hell you like it. Geez and I thought I had seen it all. And anyone who agrees with you is an ahole in my opinion. Man this is one reason I don't vote republican, people with outdated thoughts like yours.

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Time for Politics 101! Democrats who ruled the south for many years after the not so civil war were the ones who held the blacks back, not republicans. Democrats from the local sheriff to the governor, to state representatives to federal were the cause of the "Jim Crow" laws, poll taxes, literacy test for voting, crimes such as "Wreckless eyeballing" which black men were charged with, for looking at a white woman. It was democratic leadership and laws that forced blacks off the sidewalks when a white approached and had the white/colored signs on water fountains and rest rooms. Democrat leaders like Senator Robert Byrd were either in the KKK or supported their barbaric activities and Spotted Owl Gores father, a democrat, was one of the most racist men ever in politics. Of course Gore had a token black in his secret service guards, but hated the man and wished he were gone.

If it were not for conservative Christian whites like President Eisenhower, who put a stop to segregation by force and kind people waking up to the injustice and voting many, now most, of these racist democrats out of office, things would probably be much the same now.

As far as the comment about raping wives, separating families, add to that torture and murder and that is what is going on in Zimbawe and South Africa now, only it is whites who are suffering under the communist dictatorships.

Ghostwolfemoon






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