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Is the owl on the dollar the same MOLOCH god from Bohemian Grove?

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posted on Sep, 7 2010 @ 01:25 PM
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I was just wondering guys if you knew if there was a connection.

The owl on the dollar bill is in the right hand corner sitting in one of the scoops on the left side of the frame of the 1


Here is photo




Bohemian Grove owl




posted on Sep, 7 2010 @ 01:32 PM
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I am going out on a limb here, pun intended, but I'm going to say no.

Based on all the available evidence I believe the owl at Bohemian Grove is, like, really really big.

The owl on the dollar bill is really really tiny.

If you buy into quantum superposition, however, they could be the same owl but it would be extremely difficult to keep that sort of thing going. Even the tiniest amount of energy would cause wave-state collapse. Unless you cooled the owls to near absolute zero...

Anyway. I'm going to say no. One is on the dollar bill and one is in California so they probably aren't the same.



posted on Sep, 7 2010 @ 01:34 PM
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If you can even call that figure an owl. And isn't that picture of Bohemian Grove from Alex Jones? If so, how sure are you that he is to be trusted anyway.



posted on Sep, 7 2010 @ 01:34 PM
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what the hell are you talking about.



posted on Sep, 7 2010 @ 01:34 PM
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obviously he's doing some fine afternoon trollin'



posted on Sep, 7 2010 @ 01:38 PM
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I always thought the Owl, was a Spider.

Anyways, it being Moloch im not to sure of, maybe just an Owl used as a symbol of some sort.

Owls symbolize wisdom, the ability to see things that are hidden, stealth, swiftness, darkness, freedom, dreams, shape-shifting, secrets, omens, clairvoyance, astral projection, magick, deception, observation, total truth, night, death and misfortune. They are connected to the Underworld and the Moon. They are connected to The Goddess in general, as well as Athena, Mari, Lilith, Anath, Gwynn ap Nudd, Blodeuwedd, Yama and Cailleach. Barn Owl: Barn owls are the ones who see without seeing and hear without hearing; the ones who can hear what is not spoken and ones
that see things without physical sight.


Owww..l



posted on Sep, 7 2010 @ 01:42 PM
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It's obvious to me that this is a reference to Mictlantecuhtli who would look after the souls of the dead.

Owls would always accompany him and sine everyone in America carries at least a dollar with them most of the time then they are having death look at them.

The subtleties that the Freemasons use represent Ra and the origin of the not-to-free masons.

You need to align your Chakra and let your soul tumble on undeterred by these distractions if you wish to become truly free from the constraints of submissive life.

-m0r



posted on Sep, 7 2010 @ 01:46 PM
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Other than the conspiracy-minded, who claims that that's an owl on the dollar bill? (or, "Hoo" claims? ha ha). Looks like it could be just about anything. Or nothing.

Honestly, if a parakeet was a masonic symbol, that's what people would claim to see.



posted on Sep, 7 2010 @ 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by MR BOB
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what the hell are you talking about.


She asked if it was the same owl. It's not. One is little and one is big. They are hundreds of miles apart. Not the same.

Also - The owl is not a masonic symbol. Thanks for playing though!



posted on Sep, 7 2010 @ 01:58 PM
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The . of the owl seems different. In one pic it seems round or oval shape and in the next it has pointy stuff at it's side.



posted on Sep, 7 2010 @ 02:06 PM
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Moloch is a bull, not an owl. I believe the owl is Minerva, and is a symbol of wisdom.



posted on Sep, 7 2010 @ 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by Monsieur Neary
reply to post by spiritualgirl
 


Other than the conspiracy-minded, who claims that that's an owl on the dollar bill? (or, "Hoo" claims? ha ha). Looks like it could be just about anything. Or nothing.

Honestly, if a parakeet was a masonic symbol, that's what people would claim to see.


Get a really nice magnifying glass and look for yourself. The owl is there.



posted on Sep, 7 2010 @ 02:32 PM
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The dollar bill bird looks like an owl.
The Bohemian Grove bird seems more like Strix to me.

Check the ears and see what you think.

owl en.wikipedia.org...

Strix Strix on Wiki

And since human sacrifices are required, I tend to think more towards Strix than owl for the Bohemian Grove.

Edit to fix link

[edit on 7/9/2010 by Trexter Ziam]



posted on Sep, 7 2010 @ 02:54 PM
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The owl is the Athenian owl.
It is perhaps the oldest symbol on money in existance.

Owls and Currency



posted on Sep, 7 2010 @ 02:58 PM
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Originally posted by Trexter Ziam
The dollar bill bird looks like an owl.
The Bohemian Grove bird seems more like Strix to me.

Check the ears and see what you think.

owl en.wikipedia.org...

Strix Strix on Wiki

And since human sacrifices are required, I tend to think more towards Strix than owl for the Bohemian Grove.

Edit to fix link

[edit on 7/9/2010 by Trexter Ziam]


They sacrifice humans at the grove? Why, if that's true, then most world leaders would be accessories to murder. I am afraid I will need a bit more than your word on that statement.



posted on Sep, 7 2010 @ 03:00 PM
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I wonder why there is a spider web all over the dollar and no spider?
Is it possible that what you see as an owl, is indeed a spider?



posted on Sep, 7 2010 @ 03:19 PM
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Weaving Spiders Come Not Here


reply to post by spiritualgirl
 


Good question!
Check this out:


Curious! The owl is certainly an interesting feature of our (un)conscious world. I guess that's the occult part: hidden in plain sight.

Btw, even if it was a spider, it would still correlate to weirdness vibes, as my reply to network dude is the Bohemian Grove motto.



posted on Sep, 7 2010 @ 03:29 PM
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First, the owl is not a symbol of molech, the bull is. And secondly, the owl is a symbol of ATHENA, and yes, theyre most likely the same, as well as the owl hedge around the white house



posted on Sep, 7 2010 @ 03:31 PM
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Owl symbolism is everywhere if you look for it. In modern corporate, political, and other elite groups, it's a reference to Athena's / Minerva's owl. Same goddess more or less. Goddess of Wisdom. This is where the "wise owl" comes from. Ancient gods and goddesses and their symbols litter our landscapes and daily lives, without most people really taking notice. TPTB thrive on mythological/occult symbolism.

Here is the US Capitol from an aerial shot...

img54.imageshack.us...

The Frost Bank Tower in Austin, TX is the first high rise completed in the US after 9/11.

3.bp.blogspot.com...



posted on Sep, 7 2010 @ 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by network dude


You must not than understand much about world politics or elitism in general.

Lets take a look at how corrupt our world leaders are: starting with the Vatican in Rome and Europes aristocrats. How many popes were good ? A surprising majority of them were philanderers and pagans. Is it coincidence that Rome has an egyptian obelisk that originally stood in Heliopolis during the 5th dynasty in the middle of st. peters square? With the square itslef divided into 8 sections, of course refering to the reverence of the octdoad, which carries a particular pagan significance (The numerical value of O HELIOS (Ho Eelios, Helios, The Sun) = 393, which reduces to 11+3-9+3 = 8, as does APOLLWN O CRUSOUS QEOS (Apollon Ho Khrusous Theos, The Golden God Apollo) = 3385, for 11+5-8+3-3 = 8. The numerical value of Apollo's motto, "Nothing too much," is MHDEN AGAN (Meden agan) = 162, which also reduces to 11+2-6+1 = 8). 8 is the special number of pagandom, and the Vatican has always proudly displayed it.

Rome and the culture of western society is based on lies. The Goddess athena burst out of Zeus' for., signifiying the deluded pagan belief that freedom and true happiness lies beyond the judgemental attitude and 'containments' which Zeus symbolizes. Thats why its worshipped at Bohemian Grove - to quote the ritual "oh great owl of bohemia". Apt that bohemia is from the Hebrew Behema (animal).

Maybe you agree with the philosophy, idk....But dont lie about it. Our world has ALWAYS since the foundation of civilization, been based on a system of lies. Democracy is a game played by demagogues to give the ignorant masses the belief that they have in any say in the electoral process.

Just Look at this: The . of the house of Habsburg

1. Aymes (490)
2. Wago, Count of Montreuil 512-XXX
3. Leuthaire, Duke of Allemania (d533/4)
4. Erchenaud (Erkembald)
5. Leuthaire [II] (Laetharus)
6. Erchinold, Major Domo of France (d657/661)
7. Leuthaire [III], aka Leudisius of Peronne, Major Domo of France (d673)
8. Adalric or Etichon, c. 630 - bef. 690, Duke of Alsace from 670; brother of Gandalen, Abbot of Béze who died aft. 677
9. Adalric or Haicon, c. 670 - aft. 726, Count of Norgau
10. Albéric, c. 710 - c. 760, Count of Norgau c. 730 - 735
11. Eberard I, c. 745 - c. 795, Count of Norgau 765 - 777
12. Eberard II, c. 790 - c. 864, Count of Norgau in 864
13. Eberard III, 830 - c. 900, Count of Norgau in 885
14. Hugues I, bef. 875 - c. 940, Count of Norgau
15. Eberard IV, 905 - 18 December 967, Count of Norgau until 951
16. Adalbert, c. 955 - aft. 1033, Count of Metz in c. 890, Founder of the Monastery of Bougainville
17. Gerard de Bouzonville, Count of Metz, c. 985 - 1045
18. Gerard, Duke of Lorraine, c. 1028 - 1070; his older brother Adalbert, c. 1016 - 1048, Count of Longwy, Duke of Haute Lorraine from 1047 to 1048, was the patrilineal ancestor of the Counts of Burgundy and the Kings of Castile from the 12th century to the 15th century
19. Theodoric II, Duke of Lorraine, c. 1055 - 1115
20. Simon I, Duke of Lorraine, c. 1080 - 1138; his younger brother Thierry of Alsace, d. c. 1168, Count of Flanders, was the patrilineal ancestor of the House of Flanders
21. Matthias I, Duke of Lorraine, c. 1110 - 1176
22. Frederick I, Duke of Lorraine, c. 1140 - 1207
23. Frederick II, Duke of Lorraine, c. 1165 - 1213
24. Matthias II, Duke of Lorraine, c. 1192 - 1251
25. Frederick III, Duke of Lorraine, c. 1230 - 1303
26. Theobald II, Duke of Lorraine, c. 1260 - 1312
27. Frederick IV, Duke of Lorraine, 1282–1328
28. Rudolph, Duke of Lorraine, c. 1310 - 1346
29. John I, Duke of Lorraine, 1346–1390
30. Frederick of Lorraine, 1371–1415
31. Antoine of Vaudémont, c. 1395 - 1431
32. Frederick II of Vaudémont, 1417–1470
33. René II, Duke of Lorraine, 1451–1508
34. Antoine, Duke of Lorraine, 1489–1544
35. Francis I, Duke of Lorraine, 1517–1545
36. Charles III, Duke of Lorraine, 1543–1608
37. Francis II, Duke of Lorraine, 1572–1632
38. Nicholas II, Duke of Lorraine, Cardinal, 1609–1679
39. Charles V, Duke of Lorraine, 1643–1690
40. Leopold, Duke of Lorraine, 1679–1729
41. Francis I, Holy Roman Emperor, 1708–1765
42. Leopold II, Holy Roman Emperor, 1747–1792
43. Francis II, Holy Roman Emperor, 1768–1835
44. Archduke Franz Karl of Austria, 1802–1878
45. Archduke Charles Louis of Austria, 1833–1896
46. Archduke Otto Francis of Austria, 1865–1906
47. Blessed Charles I of Austria, 1887–1922
48. Otto von Habsburg, 1912 -

Or Henri, Duke of Luxembourg

1. Robert or Radon, Mayor of the Palace of Austrasia in 613
2. Robert, Referendary in 629 and Duke in 631
3. Erlebert, Noble of Therouanne
4. Robert, Mayor of the Palace of Neustria in 653, Referendary in 658 and Count in Alsace in 673
5. Robert I of Worms and Rheingau, d. 764
6. Thuringbert of Worms and Rheingau
7. Robert II of Worms and Rheingau (Robert of Hesbaye), 770 - 807
8. Robert III of Worms and Rheingau, 808 - 834
9. Robert IV the Strong, 820 - 866
10. Robert I of France, 866 - 923
11. Hugh the Great, 895 - 956
12. Hugh Capet, 941 - 996
13. Robert II of France, 972 - 1031
14. Henry I of France, 1008–1060
15. Philip I of France, 1053–1108
16. Louis VI of France, 1081–1137
17. Louis VII of France, 1120–1180
18. Philip II of France, 1165–1223
19. Louis VIII of France, 1187–1226
20. Louis IX of France, 1215–1270
21. Robert, Count of Clermont, 1256–1317
22. Louis I, Duke of Bourbon, 1279–1342
23. James I, Count of La Marche, 1319–1362
24. John I, Count of La Marche, 1344–1393
25. Louis, Count of Vendôme, 1376–1446
26. Jean VIII, Count of Vendôme, 1428–1478
27. François, Count of Vendôme, 1470–1495
28. Charles de Bourbon, Duke of Vendôme, 1489–1537
29. Antoine of Navarre, 1518–1562
30. Henry IV of France, 1553–1610
31. Louis XIII of France, 1601–1643
32. Louis XIV of France, 1638–1715
33. Louis, Dauphin of France (1661-1711), 1661–1711
34. Philip V of Spain, 1683–1746
35. Philip, Duke of Parma, 1720–1765
36. Ferdinand, Duke of Parma, 1751–1802
37. Louis of Etruria, 1773–1803
38. Charles II, Duke of Parma, 1799–1883
39. Charles III, Duke of Parma, 1823–1854
40. Robert I, Duke of Parma, 1848–1907
41. Felix of Bourbon-Parma, 1893–1970
42. Jean, Grand Duke of Luxembourg, 1921 -
43. Henri, Grand Duke of Luxembourg, 1955 -




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