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BBC Correspondent says MOSSAD did 9/11 and Iran doesn't want Nukes

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posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 01:29 PM
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There is no doubt that Mossad did some things, but I can't blame it all on them. They couldn't have made NORAD stand down and couldn't have put Cheney in command of all our armed forces for the bogus drill they were doing that just happened to be the same EXACT sceanario as what the official fairy tale said happened.

This isn't a jew or a Mossad issue, this is a new world order issue. There are jews and non jews in the new world order. Keep your eye on the ball and don't fall into the trap of demonizing one group except the new world order which is composed of all religions and races. Expose the new world order in general and expose their puppets such as Bush and Obama and all the mainstream media including the worst of all, Faux news.




posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 01:33 PM
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They couldn't have made NORAD stand down and couldn't have put Cheney in command of all our armed forces for the bogus drill they were doing that just happened to be the same EXACT sceanario as what the official fairy tale said happened.


Its funny you would use the words "fairy tale" in the middle of writing one. NORAD wasn't stood down, nor was Cheney "in command" of all our armed forces that day. Those are two of the biggest lies, excuse me, FAIRY TALES in the realm of truthers.



posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 08:52 AM
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Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by Prince Of Darkness
 


Anti-semitic crap. Internet version of "Der ewige Jude" or "Juden ohne Maske"

Leave it be, pay it no mind.


So criticizing another country now warrants racist accusations? Or can you not seperate an ethnic group from a political state or nation?

Oh nevermind, you have already proven you can't, which shows your lack of intelligence shining through and the tired old tactic of debunkers across the net.

Question for you Hooper, do you defend the Palenstians when the Israelis commit attrocities against them? Or is your version of "Der ewige Palestian?"

Keep it up though, and you can use the anti-semtic excuse to prevent criticism of Israel even when they start to resemble the Nazis in their state policies.



posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by mattpryor
I stopped using ATS a while ago because of the fast growing number of Jew haters on this website. I won't call people anti-Semites because that usually leads to a load of drivel about definitions of Semites. Jew haters is fine. I see nothing has changed - in fact looking at the number of stars given to certain posts here I think it's got worse.

Aeroplanes flew into the World Trade Centre buildings. I watched it happen.

Mattpryor probably left ATS the first time because members here shamed him into doing so. I can remember a lot of his proZionist stances that flew right into the face of the evidence to the contrary and could be on any facet of trouble as long as it involved the championing of Israeli tactics on his part. Whenever the evidence of his faulty reasoning became too much to bear, he would simply disappear from the thread rather than face the damning evidence or refute those rebuttals.

Now he is on this thread (welcome back to ATS by the way) calling everyone who is objectively looking at the BBC correspondent's conclusion "Jew Haters". This comes as no surprise and is the common modus operandi of the Zionist kids who hang out on these types of topics.

To top it all off, he makes the claim that he saw the planes hit the buildings as if this seal's the deal in his mind. He forgets that we all saw the planes hit the building as well, and this is not even the core of the debate here. The premise of this argument is that MOSSAD agents helped bring down these buildings, NOT whether anyone here saw the planes hit the towers or not. But as long as he could get in his "Jew Haters" comments I'm sure he's quite content to flee this thread too, like some petulant child who hurls an egg onto a car and then runs before he has to face the responsibility of his actions.

Class act some of these Official-Line Debunkers have become I tell ya.

I don't see Jew Haters here. I do see a few members trying to inject hate into this topic though, in some vain attempt to have it locked. I'm the first person to throw mud at my own government if I smell a rat and I certainly do smell collusion of my very own damned government in the 911 tragedy. I can criticize my government in spite of being put on some watch list because I'm still brave enough to embrace the evidence (the evidence that has not been shipped away to be melted down in SouthEast Asia that is) and keep my open mind. When you give your mind away to some stupid kind of ideology, then you become blind. You also become a useful idiot to TPTB.

These dancing MOSSAD agents actually did talk shows on their actions for Christ's sake! One can only try pushing their .s so far into the sand that the assistance of a digging crane becomes the more feasible option.



posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by hooper
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Nice, anthropology. Too bad. Anti-semitic is anti-Jewish. Its called connotation.

Again, the stuff in the OP is anti-semitic garbage. By the way, I'm not buying the "I'm not anti-semitic I just want to attack the State of Isreal, Zionist and the Mossad" crap either. Neither does anyone else.


Zionism is a political party! Israel is not exempt from criticism!

So cut your bulldinkery! That horse doesn't run anymore!

S&F





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posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 05:43 PM
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The Israeli government is not Jewish. They are primarily atheists who just happen to be born Jewish.
There are many Jews who condemn Israel and Zionism because of what they do not because they are Jews.



posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 06:02 PM
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What can I say. Thank God ATS exists.

I live in Singapore and open discussions on 911 like this are almost unheard off or regarded ridiculous. Mainstream media keep painting the dumb story of Muslim terrorists (solely to be blamed) and passenger airliners brought down WTC towers.

These false flag operations perpetrated by dark agencies are happening around the world every day. We're only awaken by 911 as the biggest one in modern history. I call them "dark agencies" cause numerous powerful organizations and people are pulling the strings.

We can't bring them to justice but we've a human-obligation to voice out and take necessary actions to prevent our family and children from becoming a tool of their evil agendas. Thank God they're still good people among us spreading the truth.



posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 07:59 PM
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Originally posted by SphinxMontreal
"I'm asking you why you're taking this BBC report seriously when you conspiracy people are ALSO saying the BBC had foreknowledge of the WTC 7 collapse, which necessarily means they're involved in the conspiracy too."




Wrong.
The BBC announced the collapse of WTC7 before it collapsed, and gave as the cause the debris from the other towers. Fact.

The BBC has stated that it had been given this news by Reuters. Fact.

Your statement: The BBC having foreknowledge of the WTC7 necessarily means they are involved in the conspiracy. FALSE You have simply stated a fact and then attributed an imagined cause.

Therefore, there is NO contradiction in what these posters have said, and you have shown prejudice and incorrect reasoning..

Now, the pertaining question is: Who passed this information to tReuters?

As far as I am aware, Reuters has not made a statement about this. However, if you do a search on 'Who owns Reuters', you will find the following information and quotation:

100777.com...

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Not a single announcement will reach the public without our control. Even now this is already being attained by us inasmuch as all news items are received by a few agencies, in whose offices they are focused from all parts of the world. These agencies will then be already entirely ours and will give publicity only to what we dictate to them.

- Protocol 12:4 The Protocols of the Elders of Zion

The House of Rothschild bought Reuters news service in the 1800's. Within the last 20 years, Reuters bought the Associated Press. Now the Elite own the two largest wire services in the world, where most newspapers get their news. The Rothschilds have control of all three U.S. Networks, plus other aspects of the recording and mass media industry according to research by Eustice Mullins in his book 'Who Owns the TV Networks'.

Unquote.


On the basis of this information, it is fair to assume that the Zionist controlled news media saw and allowed this information to be aired, mistakenly, prior to the actual collapse of WTC7. So, this strongly suggests Zionist knowledge that the WTC7 would collapse 23 MINUTES before it collapsed.

We know that Israel has stated that it warned the US Government of an imminent attack on WTC on 9/11. This could be explained by the fact that it was intelligence it had received.

But how can the Zionist news agency Reuters explain that it knew the WTC7 would collapse, and what the OS would be about the reaons for that collapse, 23 mins before it happened? Why hasn't it made a statement about this vitally important piece of evidence? There seems no doubt that someone within Zionist controlled Reuters knew the tower would collapse. How is that possible unless it was pre-planned and they knew it was going to happen?.



posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by wcitizen
Not a single announcement will reach the public without our control. Even now this is already being attained by us inasmuch as all news items are received by a few agencies, in whose offices they are focused from all parts of the world. These agencies will then be already entirely ours and will give publicity only to what we dictate to them.

- Protocol 12:4 The Protocols of the Elders of Zion


But we do know that the The Protocols of the Elders of Zion were written by the Okhrana, right? Not that I'm sticking up for the Mossad, but let's get a handle on the propaganda, eh? Citing a blatantly antisemitic construct is not going to help this thread move forward, in fact it feeds the trolls.

But, maybe that's the idea. One more step down the rabbit hole.



posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 05:23 AM
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Yes, I know the alleged history of the Protocols, and that they are discredited as being anti-semitic. So, perhaps it is a case of 'fiction being stranger than fact', or 'truth masquerading as anti-semitism' - they have proven to be strangely prophetic.

The vast majority of the world's media is now owned by Zionists, and indeed, the news is censored and distorted by thse news agencies..

In any case, the point I was making was that the post claiming that the BBC must have been complicit because it announced the collapse of WTC7 before it happened is not substantiated, that the BBC names Reuters as its source and Reuters is zionist owned and controlled.

Now, I find it strange that there seems to have been no statement from Reuters about this, given that it is such a serious anomaly.






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posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 06:37 AM
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How well so many people have bought into the 'anti-semitic' propaganda.

I mean how much will it take for people to see that everything the Zionists want discredited, every criticism levelled at Israel, the Zionists, Judaism - even historians seeking to establish facts, brings on the same old, same old, knee jerk response - and the anti-semitic screaming starts, and the personal accusations. Indeed, it's a real rabbit hole, just like you say.



posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 06:41 AM
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MOSSAD INVOLVEMENT In The 9 11 WTC ATTACKS,





9/11 The Military Knows Israel Mossad and rogue US Gov. Did It










posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 06:42 AM
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Saw a documentary on 9/11 last night with all these high profile politrickcians.

When the attacks happened everybody wanted to get to Donald Rumsfeld. People getting to the president did it to get to Rumsfeld. Since when did he turn into your nations front man, that even the commander in chief has to take his orders from him?

Another observation I made was, these high profile politrickcians were all smiling when they talkbed about the attacks. I haven't seen ANYONE smile, including me, when speaking about those attacks, regardless of which side of the fence people are/were on.



posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 06:42 AM
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Saw a documentary on 9/11 last night with all these high profile politrickcians.

When the attacks happened everybody wanted to get to Donald Rumsfeld. People getting to the president did it to get to Rumsfeld. Since when did he turn into your nations front man, that even the commander in chief has to take his orders from him?

Another observation I made was, these high profile politrickcians were all smiling when they talkbed about the attacks. I haven't seen ANYONE smile, including me, when speaking about those attacks, regardless of which side of the fence people are/were on.



posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 10:52 AM
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What I would like to know is why it's okay for people in the US government to be dual US / Israeli citizens when this has always been illegal until the 60's I believe when Israel somehow used their influence to be excluded from this law. No man can serve two masters. I believe this is even in the Bible. But of course, I'm going to be called anti-semite because I don't want my government officials to have their loyalty split between two countries!

What a joke! I don't want any of our government officials to have dual citizenships. That's always been illegal until recently and it should be that way today. Our government has been taken over by new world order trash that serve the private bank Federal Reserve slavery system. We haven't had a REAL president since JFK was murdered.

This video gives detailed evidence about the Zionists links to 911
video.google.com...#

I don't blame it all on the Zionists because they had help but even our own FBI, CIA and NSA claim that there are links there. To ignore all the evidence in that video is foolish. And it's not anti semite to bring up FACTS no matter what the trolls say. Everything in that video is FACT and all the screaming of "anti-semite" doesn't change the fact that Mossad agents were caught dancing and celebrating the attacks in NJ.

I've also asked many of the anti semite screamers before to name just ONE thing that Israel has done that is evil and they never do. I can name many things my own government has done which are evil. Why can't Israelis ever admit to any evil they do? So can any of you that scream anti-semite name ONE thing Israel has done that is evil? If not, then you are a joke!

And again, we aren't talking about jews in general as the "anti semite" screamers try to portray. We are talking about a small group of power hungry zionists that have no morals whatsoever and will do anything to achieve their goals. Just like the KKK people are insane and do not make all Americans racists by their actions.



posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 11:19 AM
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I was watching a bit of the History Channel's 9/11 videos this weekend. On 9.11, they had a whole slew of coverage of different aspects.

The only one I bothered watching, was the one covering Conspiracy Theories. It was handled professionally, they didn't use the word "crack pot" and they didn't cover the weird "Big Foot did it" nonsense.

It was annoying that they didn't go in-depth in anything. They just let someone from Popular Mechanics say; "the facts don't add up," without laying out the actual science on both sides. DOES steel actually lose 50% of it's strength at 1,100 degrees? If it does; why do other steel buildings on fire for hours and even days not collapse? I mean, can we answer the basics at least?

I've always been leery of the Pentagon or the Flight 93 crash -- because you really Can't prove anything much. 93 goes straight into the ground and debris lands 2 miles away -- on this show, they said "just some office papers" but I'd heard that the engine landed two miles away. They pointed to one theory that used google maps to come up with 6 miles -- but when we have plane BURY itself in the ground by flying straight into it, such that almost everything is in the dirt -- how does the debris get more than a couple hundred yards away?

>> The thing that must be remembered by both sides, is that in any explosion involving high velocities and large objects; weird things are bound to happen.

But the idea that "conspiracies are due to traumatic events and people wanting a simple understanding of the world" is pretty damn condescending. I am NOT the sort of person who thinks in black or white, nor thinks that everything can be explained. Sure, there are a lot of people who think Wayco was some government conspiracy, or that every big event is a conspiracy. But to lump the JFK assassination in with this... it is a different event, but at LEAST get with the Official report. The Warren Commission suggested a Magic Bullet. A later trial, like the 2nd trial of OJ -- concluded that there was blame to be laid elsewhere and there was a conspiracy.

The 9/11 Committee, concluded that there was at least obstruction of justice. To say that we need to "stay with the facts" is complicated because the facts are coming from a group that is either Evil or Stupid.

Transponders don't track planes -- they identify them. If a C130 is following a hijacked plane -- then why can't an F16? Either the Pentagon needs to give us all our money back because they are a useless, expensive building -- or they are involved.

And the BIG PICTURE, is this is the same media, that is trying to tell us we are being silly, that dropped the ball on everything important in the past 10 years. We can all site examples of important news that only people on the internet seem to know.

But the BIG PICTURE around 9.11, much less the events, supports a group that was either criminally complicit, or criminally incompetent.

Here is a big picture train of thought; Did anyone in the MEDIA not notice that the Koch oil family out of New Jersey, along with Richard Melon Scaithe were funding efforts to go after President Clinton? The Koch billionaires fund fights against health care reform, California's efforts for pollution controls, astro-turf efforts to deny global warming, and of course, everything and anything that takes rights from people and gives them to corporations. The overlap with the PNAC group, and evil or stupid people in key positions during 9/11 is also convenient... but let's look at what is happening in politics at the same time...

In the first WTC bombing -- there weren't a lot of conspiracy theories. The FBI went to work and tracked down the perpetrators (and did not declare the culprits a few hours after it happened), and put them on trial and in prison.

Clinton did put into law the Rendition Act and NAFTA but did not go to war with Iraq. Clinton did repeal some laws on banking setting the stage for November 2008.


When the Supreme Court stops the recount and appoints Bush the winner in 2000, they put a VP and a President in office who have only a background of corruption. Cheney in particular, made money selling weapons and trading oil with Saddam, using his military contracts as a war profiteer, making Haliburton hugely profitable by getting the Supreme Court to change the liability of some asbestos-laden corporations they own to about $250 per claim. He also made big money helping rich people dodge taxes by offshoring their money. The #1 criteria seems to be; who can "raise the most funds."

I won't bother with Bush -- it would take too long. Almost every stinking, bad event in this country seems to have a Bush family member somewhere in the mix. It looks like a bad plot for "The Omen."

So, when Bush gets into power, we get attacked. Their response is to tell us it was Al Qaeda -- and don't worry about it, they are the people to take care of everything. They invade Afghanistan -- which has less "al Qaeda" than Southern Florida where MOST of the training of NON AFGHANI terrorists was done according to the Administration. Whether 9/11 was Al Qaeda terrorists or not (probably was), and whether a plane flew into the Pentagon and two buildings is true or not, this really is NOT the elephant in the room. We always seem to argue about PROOF when the CRIME is what is important.

Was the civil war in Iraq the result of evil, or just really, really stupid people who set it up for a religious war? When 4 British troops are caught with a van full of explosives in a Mosque -- maybe I'm on the side of "evil people who hire stupid people at ridiculous salaries who will make things really bad and will of course do nothing but CYA." You know, like Homeland Security. Their #1 Job is to justify their existence. The next BAD EVENT, will have lot's of people in nice suites without a clue, spending all their time hunting down everyone who puts a "kick me sign" on their back. Nothing will be discovered. SNAFU time.

The CRIME is two wars based on false premises, legalizing torture, ending the Constitution and transparency on government. The "Government Secrets Act" and the "Patriot Acts I & II" effectively mean that the Constitution doesn't matter when it's inconvenient for our government. The #1 job of the President is NOT our security, but defending the Constitution. Evil or Stupid again. And if the PNAC group was trying to make America all-powerful, they failed. But Capitalists will happily make profits in China as they eat our lunch selling us the parts for our weapons as they build our planes. Securing all the oil in the world won't save us from the effects of fossil fuels -- and that means, they will be monopolizing buggy whips when the world moves on to alternative energy. Despite the lies -- we could easily move off of oil if there were a will and big effort by our Government.

It takes 6 months to quickly screw our Constitution and get into war, but it takes 10 years to MAYBE implement some prudent changes that can help the people.

Obama comes into office, and keeps the same Prosecutors, keeps the same Evil or Stupid crooks who regulate the Fed and Wall Street, keeps the same policies and secrets. Bush and Cheney are war criminals. The Twin Towers falling, is merely a "scary thing" but it didn't scare me as much as the internal spying, disappearing of state enemies, and the Banks and corporations running everything and writing all our policies.



The Twin Towers MAY have fallen from an airplane fire. Should people in power be just as much on trial for being Imbeciles (the answer should be YES). But it doesn't matter; this country is in the grip of Fascists who put some nutball with a church of 50 on the TV every day, because he preaches hate. While we have troops in Muslim countries -- they give TV shows lots of content to tell Muslims around the world they are under attack in a holy war. Evil or Stupid? So what is the GOAL HERE? Our Democracy is getting murdered, and Popular Mechanics and the History Channel are discussing whether an attack on this country of a mere 3000 people is what it seems or not. This is ignoring the Blitzkreig while you investigate "who shot Franz Duke Ferdinand? Conspiracy or Not?" Meanwhile, the enemy is unopposed.

We sit around bickering while "Evil and Stupid" get all the money, we lose our jobs, we lose our rights, and they make us



posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 11:28 AM
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So you realize the " Protocols of the Elders of Zion " are an anti-semitic forgery but you are happy to quote them without qualification. In the hope that some readers don't know that perhaps ?

Just so we know where you are coming from !



posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 01:58 PM
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Speaking of anti-semitism, Alfie, did you watch this video?:




Btw most modern-day Israelis are actually NOT semites.



posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by Alfie1
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So you realize the " Protocols of the Elders of Zion " are an anti-semitic forgery but you are happy to quote them without qualification. In the hope that some readers don't know that perhaps ?

Just so we know where you are coming from !



Hi Alfie,

Ok. Since you are attacking me for, in your opinion, not being factual, please paste and copy the post where I said I 'realise they are an anti-semitic forgery'.
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posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 06:03 PM
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I've just watched the four videos '9/11 The Military Knows Israel Did It', and I've also just read 'Zionism Unmasked: The Dark Face of Jewish Nationalism', also by Dr. Alan Sabrosky.

I found his comment:

""The Zionists are playing this as an all-or-nothing exercise. If they lose this one, they’re done….."

shows a vulnerability which is never mentioned, but which is hugely significant.

No wonder they are really pushing the 'anti-semitic' thing these days, and no wonder they have armies of trolls trying to sabotage discussions on forums like ATS. I have to say I hadn't fully realised how much was at stake for these criminals until now.

No wonder the US (Zionist controlled) Government is refusing to carry out another enquiry. If that happens, they will be toast.

No wonder the (Zionist controlled) MSM won't give the 'truthers' any air time or credence.

However, despite the media/government censoring this, it's imperative that people learn the truth. Not easy, but to all those who have posted about their difficulties in trying to talk to people about this, take heart. Every single person who is encouraged to re-think their blind belief in the OS is a significant victory in this on-going war.



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