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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
... end your own life. End your own "suffering" in the process.
And before you say "you haven't had to make the choice, you don't know, you've never been in my shoes blah blah blah.." Yes I have, my ex-girlfriend MURDERED my child 3 years ago against my pleads and tears because his life was deemed to be incompatible with her partying lifestyle.
Abortion was never murder in U.S. even when it was illegal. Not a small point.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Laws change ALL the time.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Laws are not a moral authority.
Originally posted by NewlyAwakened
Actually this is a rather silly basis for morality seeing how suffering is not only an unavoidable fact of life (that nature herself relativizes, hence "spoiled brat" syndrome), but suffering is in fact part and parcel with human growth. The exercise phrase "no pain, no gain" is in fact an expression of a deeper reality of life. People who have gone through a lot tend to have much more character and personality, and not necessarily evil or criminal as long as they still received some love in their youth (which is possible even in the worst of conditions).
A morality of "it is IMMORAL to let any living breathing child suffer" applied in practice would produce a civilization of adult-sized children (actually that would explain a lot these days). And one of "Better no child than suffering child. Period." applied would cause human extinction.
Originally posted by NewlyAwakened
reply to post by Annee
Just taking your "morality" to their logical conclusions. Don't blame me if you don't like the outcome.
Originally posted by NewlyAwakened
reply to post by Annee
Just taking your "morality" to their logical conclusions. Don't blame me if you don't like the outcome.
Originally posted by Hellas
Pro-Life or Pro-Choice????
Who are you to even think that you are able to judge about a baby's life??
If you DON'T want a baby use proper protection or keep you legs closed in the first place !!
Originally posted by Hellas
Who are you to even think that you are able to judge about a baby's life??
Originally posted by Hellas
If you DON'T want a baby use proper protection or keep you legs closed in the first place !!
Originally posted by Brood
Originally posted by Hellas
Pro-Life or Pro-Choice????
Who are you to even think that you are able to judge about a baby's life??
If you DON'T want a baby use proper protection or keep you legs closed in the first place !!
Having sex is a very natural process, and it is actually pretty unhealthy for men to not be sexually active or masturbate regularly. I there is a God, he certainly has a sense of humor.
Adversely,
Originally posted by Hellas
Who are you to even think that you are able to judge about a baby's life??
Who are you to say what a woman should do with her body? At the point of the abortion, it is more a part of her body than it is its own being. It has no emotions or pain indicators, it will not have any idea that it even ever existed.
Originally posted by Hellas
If you DON'T want a baby use proper protection or keep you legs closed in the first place !!
Do you really think that a topic like this hasn't matured enough to be beyond such presumptions?
What if the woman is the victim of rape?
What if the security of the protection they use is compromised?
What if the life provided for the child would be less than adequate?
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Annee
You are speaking from YOUR belief.
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Fortunately laws are not made because of "belief"
Gawd - - - I am SO SICK of the word MORAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously - ever since Bush took office - - the word MORAL has become an overused convenient repetitive mantra.
Originally posted by Hefficide
This all reminds me of my favorite part of the Bible... In the New Testament... You know that one story about the time that Jesus went all demogogue and totalitarian and ran around shoving the law of Moses down peoples throats and lashing out at anyone who dared disagree with him. Then he took over the whole country and forced every single person to live by his law and his rules without exception...
You know the one!
Remember that story?
Originally posted by Brood
Quite frankly, sir, the last person anyone should be taking moral advice from is someone attacking the freedoms of their own people on a public forum.
Originally posted by Brood
If you do not like abortion, then don't do it.
Originally posted by Brood
If a woman decides that a child would tear apart the lives of her and her family
Originally posted by Brood
that is her choice, and thank God it would never be yours.
Originally posted by Brood
I would much rather a child not starve than have a new one brought into the world and starve, you claim that suffering is just part of life and children should deal with it; "no pain, no gain".
Originally posted by Brood
Yes, I'm sure you would have made an excellent father...