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Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Petraeus: Burning Quran Endangers Troops
www.military.com
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KABUL, Afghanistan -- The top U.S. and NATO commander in Afghanistan warned Tuesday an American church's threat to burn copies of the Muslim holy book could endanger U.S. troops in the country and Americans worldwide.
"Images of the burning of a Quran would undoubtedly be used by extremists in Afghanistan -- and around the world -- to inflame public opinion and incite violence," Gen. David Petraeus said in an e-mail to The Associated Press.
Originally posted by AmericanDaughter
reply to post by crazydaisy
I think flying planes into buildings killing THOUSANDS should cause wars not a book burning
Good Grief; People put pee and poo on Jesus pictures that some sickos call art that is paid for with tax money and we don't kill people over it.
Burn the muslie 'how to kill 101' book ...
Originally posted by abe froman
reply to post by hippomchippo
This thread (due in large part to it's op) has strayed off topic. the whole thing here is freedom of speech, if you can burn a flag and a bible under the bill of rights then you can also burn the koran, the talmud ,the shirmad bhagvata, beatles records,your bra or any damn thing else you want, and for a U.S. General to try to encourage U.S. citizens to suspend their freedoms so as not to incite our sworn enemies is shameful.After all isn't his job supposed to be upholding and defending them?
edit on 8-9-2010 by abe froman because: ghost of elvis told me to
Originally posted by notsoperfect
reply to post by hippomchippo
I think the difference is that Jesus was killed by the evils of the society at the time. Instead Mohammed killed and urged his deciples to kill people who didn't want to follow him. The ramification is the huge and incomparable. Here, one is killed while teaching and promoting peace in the world and the other killed people who would not follow him instead.
No teachings in words matters, what they taught in action is what really matters.
If everyone is willing to be killed by promoting peace as Jesus taught by his own action, why not we can achieve peace in the world. But the other is the totallly opposite, we will have constant killings in the world by following Mohammed.
Originally posted by abe froman
In the op this is about the responsibility that goes along with freedom of speech, I find it interesting that some of you use YOUR freedom of speech to browbeat others into not using theirs.
Patraeus is worried about how this might effect U.S. Troops who are there by force of arms in countries many would argue they are destroying.
Since these troops are in essence 'guests' (uninvited) in Afganistan and Iraq and other places like Kuwaiit and Saudi Arabia (invited) America appearing anti-Islamic is a real concern.
Further burning the symbol of nation (the flag) is not on the same level as burning religious texts the symbol of people's faith in a God.
If this upsets you burn an Iraqi or Afghani Flag.
In fact respecting other people's religions is just common sense and courtesy, not cow towing.
This leads me to point 2. Should terrorists be able to dictate what happens in the US by using fear or any other method? If we tell this little church they can't burn the books or even suggest they shouldn't, we are allowing terrorists to dictate legal actions within the US. If we do this once, we will do this again.
The terrorists are in Washington, those are the people who would have you believe and me believe we are in imminent danger of the small minority of Muslims in this nation instilling Sharia Law on the other 95%.
You see the 600,000 laws on the books that regulate every facet of our existence don't permit open outdoor burning this time of year in this particular Florida County!
As a result armed agents of the State will see that it is promptly put out and he is fined for doing so!
There is your terrorists!
"If this happens, I think the first and most important reaction will be that wherever Americans are seen, they will be killed," Mohammad Mukhtar, a cleric and an election candidate for the Afghan parliament, said in Kabul. "No matter where they will be in the world they will be killed."
Originally posted by abe froman
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
1. to "defame the prophet" is just cause for murder in Islam. 2. to claim Jesus is the last prophet of God (as christians do) is "defaming the prophet". I hope you understand my point now as I have used the smallest words possible.
Originally posted by abe froman
reply to post by hippomchippo
those that hate us aren't going to hate us any more than they do already. why are so many willing to give up their rights so easily? they burn US flags all the time. They behead americans on tv every chance they get yet I'm supposed to bow down before them? I think not. this is nothing more than being P.C. to the extreme. If you are so worried about offending muslims, convert. Otherwise you're an infidel. There is no freedom of religion in Islam people, wake up!!!
Originally posted by BigDaveJr
reply to post by hippomchippo
The vast majority of Muslims in the Middle East are going to hate America anyway,no matter what we do,so to hell with them. I'm sick of America selling out and being apologetic to It's enemies.