posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 03:25 AM
@ Snowen20, glad to participate.
You: "Physically this is true. Spiritually it is not. Physically you are dirt. Specifically arranged dirt, however. And so am I."
Me: Dirt is still energy.
You: "Amazingly, the dirt that we are communicates/communes. While we are no more than dirt in terms of practical measurements, the conversations we
share, the memories we develop, the joys and sorrows the we create and experience, these are energies that did not exist prior. "
Me: The energy of any memories and emotions are not new energies but merely an interaction of ourselves with each other on any level be it spiritual
or physical. Transfer or accepting or giving. It's all energy in motion.
You: "So, while science looks as the measurable, there is an "unseen" that is only measured by unseen means."
Me: Some people see with more than just their eyes. Also, I am not a scientist or a religious man. I am a spiritual and physical entity.
You: " Likewise, if I was to give you a tool that you had never before seen, you would accomplish nothing, but if I also imparted understanding
related to that tool to you, you would accomplish much."
Me: If you were to give me a tool, that would require energy on both our parts, You giving and me taking. Just holding it and thinking about it is
You: "There would be no difference in physical energy between the two situations certainly, but the increase of life is obvious. "
Me: What you are referring here to as life I would label experience.
You: "Men tend to gravitate to "order" and women to "charity." A bastardized version of this is understood as "peace and love." While the more
semantically correct words would be Order and Charity, these are still yet words and are yet limited."
Me: I agree with you about the limitation of words to describe that which does not use words.
You: "Consider, a man and woman join together and new life is formed. Just as when energy (charity, part of Life) and design (order, part of Life)
are joined, new life is formed. Consider, your finger contains code and life. Cut it off, the code remains, but the life escapes. Conversely, disrupt
the code, but maintain the life, and sickness develops (cancer). All the way from basic physics to the first forms of Life appearing in the heavens,
there are "octaves" and "harmonies." Mankind sits generally at the crossroads of Life and Death, where Life appears as OrderCharity, and Death
draws out manifestations of Pride and Chaos."
Me: The only true death I am aware of is fear. When a man and woman come together, no new life is created,
experience, yes. The energy of any life is pulled from an already existing source. Even if we choose to call it life for the sake of harmony, It's
sill energy. Octaves and harmonies yes ( Micro and Macro). Also, I believe Pride and Chaos are challenges to all sentient beings be they Gods,
Goddess's, angels or man. Some are better at it than others and they become examples for the rest.
You: "Consider that those places that you refer to as far off are not far at all. Distinction is not anti-higher level, but normally the concept of
True Unity is even more misunderstood than the concept of Void."
Me: Could be close, could be far. We'll all have to wait for that one. "The kingdom of ****** is with in you."
I agree with you that True Unity and Void are both misunderstood since no one here on Earth has seen it. We all have ideas about them though.
You:"Idols, idols, idols. Everywhere idols. People selling their souls to idols and turning over the gains back to the same shadows. When did vapor
gain so much strength? When the dirt rose up and worshiped everything but the Life which establishes and sustains.
So then, the Chaotic and Prideful Sheep will be given their desires. Knowing freedom despite not understanding the way, knowing honor despite not
understanding tributary. Even the Wolves are fed by the Great Shepherds. "
I agree with most of this.
Also, I came through the Christian background and understand where you are coming from. I've always sought the purest form of truth there is and the
wisdom in which to use it. My lens that I look through is unique to me alone. As with everyone. I am sure we agree more than not, but due to
vocabulary and perspective we might be describing very similar topics. We also might be talking about different things that refer to similar words
(typing has a few drawbacks)
The etiquette of being sentient is written on everyone's soul.