what is so appalling about this article is
the fact that the FDA should be making
this announcement instead of a
supermarket chain.

But of course the FDA doesn't work
for the people any more unless it is
stopping a foreign made paint that
has Chinese lead in it.

Lemme guess -- the Chinese didn't
bribe you like the American companies
did???

You are all so naive, I grew up on a very small farm (family owned) and even we used hormones in beef...it's been in practice for at least 20 years. They sell it at Co-op and you give them one shot in the ear, the "pill" is only about the size of a 10mg pill. Many small farms across the nation do it, mostly because beef is not very profitable. Restrictions on hormone because you perceive it as dangerous...and thus you want government to force farmers will only serve to hurt the small farmers.

If you don't want hormones in your beef buy organic, and even that I bet has hormones in it...because again, many beef farmers are not profitable.

[edit on 7-9-2010 by yellowcard]

Originally posted by yellowcard
You are all so naive, I grew up on a very small farm (family owned) and even we used hormones in beef...it's been in practice for at least 20 years.

by whom???
My dad is a small farmer with beef.
He's been in it for 30 yrs and never
used a growth hormone.

It's not the lack of growth hormone that
causes farmers to go under on beef.
it is the price of grain or hay to feed them
has tripled and the price of beef to market
has remained the same for virtually 20 yrs.
The growth hormone is a scapegoat to cover
up lack of oversight in the feed/beef price
consistency. If feed goes up, then the price
of beef should follow, but it doesn't.

Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by yellowcard
You are all so naive, I grew up on a very small farm (family owned) and even we used hormones in beef...it's been in practice for at least 20 years.

by whom???
My dad is a small farmer with beef.
He's been in it for 30 yrs and never
used a growth hormone.

It's not the lack of growth hormone that
causes farmers to go under on beef.
it is the price of grain or hay to feed them
has tripled and the price of beef to market
has remained the same for virtually 20 yrs.
The growth hormone is a scapegoat to cover
up lack of oversight in the feed/beef price
consistency. If feed goes up, then the price
of beef should follow, but it doesn't.

Alright, well let's just let the government take care of this. What could go wrong? Call up the FDA cut the yields of small farmers, put oversight in the beef market to prevent farmers from liquidating their cattle at market (which is why prices are low, currently diary farmers are liquidating cattle because milk doesn't yield enough). Wait, didn't we do that during the great depression, and people were rationing food as a result? By WHOM? Get real, they sell it at local Co-ops (it looks like a small gun), do you think it's just there for show? No one buys it? Not every farmer uses it, but a LOT of farmers do, a lot of small farmers. Most small farmers free roam their cattle, so feed costs aren't terribly high, but the cattle don't bring much at market...because people liquidate at market too consistently, and beef is reactionary to various prices from milk to corn so it fluctuates heavily...making it quite hard to "flip" cattle. Anyhow, shoving your agenda of no hormones down people's throats is total bull#, even if your father didn't use hormones he may have bought cattle that had hormones used on them and thus benefited from such. It is actually a growing trend among farmers, ask your father about it.

Like I said, if you don't want hormones, buy Organic...and considering those cattle are too bought on market, they might damn well have hormones in them; as if cows don't have hormones by nature.

[edit on 7-9-2010 by yellowcard]

Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by yellowcard
You are all so naive, I grew up on a very small farm (family owned) and even we used hormones in beef...it's been in practice for at least 20 years.

by whom???
My dad is a small farmer with beef.
He's been in it for 30 yrs and never
used a growth hormone.

Well then, you've just proved
that no small farmers
use hormones.

Taxation, taxation, taxation.

Sadly that's all it amounts to, paying an extra premium for real food versus artificial food.

There is a huge difference in the texture of not just beef but chicken also that are grown with these growth hormones, steroids and anti-biotics.

The Agro-Corporations are destroying the domesticated livestock supply and many of the wheat and vegetable crops, while monopolizing yet one more segment of the economy pushing out middle class independents.

Essentially they have created a tiered pricing structure for a natural product.

1. Crap for the poor and ignorant
2. Organic for the middle class and educated poor
3. Organic gourmet quality "Prime" for the rich, middle class, and the poor determined to live beyond their means.

Same exact cut of meat.

1. Crap = 7.95 - 10.00 a pound
2. Organic 11.00 - 14.00 a pound
3. Prime Organic 19.95 - 24.00 a pound

Now since the best prime organic is usually free range grass and grain fed, with no stimulants and anti-biotics how much more could grass cost as opposed to Pharmacutical Company Pills?

In all reality the Agro-Corporations might actually be spending more to actually poison us with the food they first poisoned, than it actually costs to raise them naturally.

I was wondering what has been done to the meat sold in my local supermarket, Maxi Foods in UFTG. It's so tough it's not edible, even the chicken breast and turkey steaks (which I suspect are imported bleached buffalo,) and beef eye-fillet. And the pork tastes like it's been in a urinal. Even my cat won't eat their meat.

My little family is now vegetarian on the days we can't get meat from elsewhere.

It's sad when the scummy bastards buy/sell the absolute cheapest of everything, regardless of quality. It leaves them losing customers, losing profits, and they respond by getting in even cheaper, crappier produce.