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Topic started on 6-9-2010 @ 09:44 PM by BiGGz

Israel gearing up for 'mother of all flotillas'


www.jpost.com
Israel is preparing for what is being described in the IDF as the “mother of all flotillas,” which could include up to 20 different ships planning to set sail for the Gaza Strip in the coming months.

The flotilla is being organized by a coalition of NGOs from Europe and the United States, including a group calling itself European Jews for a Just Peace.
(visit the link for the full news article)


reply posted on 6-9-2010 @ 09:56 PM by America?
I'm thinking Israel will burn if they try this crap again.
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reply posted on 6-9-2010 @ 10:01 PM by CynicalM
reply to post by BiGGz



Your link requires a login..

Do you have another??

BTW, a few months is a long time..
Things are moving fast in the ME.


reply posted on 6-9-2010 @ 10:50 PM by airspoon
reply to post by boondock-saint



Come on, you can see through the propaganda can't you Saint? You think most Palestinians have access to the items in that hotel? Of course not. Most Palestinians are left fighting in the streets for scraps of meat. Journalists, dignitaries and turncoats are the only ones who can frequent that hotel.

Why can't most Palestinians get the things they need? Because Israeli keeps a tight control on what goes out and what comes in, which ultimately drives up the price and makes things really hard to get, even for the few things allowed.

Of course Israeli isn't going to let enough get through for the entire population, as their goal is to drive the Palestinians out. They let just enough in so that they can say that things are getting through.

Come on Saint, you can do better than that, right?


--airspoon


reply posted on 6-9-2010 @ 11:08 PM by airspoon
reply to post by boondock-saint



No, the difference between poor Palestinians and poor Americans or Israelis, is that there is no way for the Palestinians to enrich themselves. There are poor Palestinians because the Israelis limit their basic supplies. So, even if the entire Gaza population won the lottery tomorrow, it wouldn't matter as there isn't enough supplies to go around. Supply and demand, only backwards.

For instance, if you are locked in a cell with 5 other people, yet there are 10 gallons of water (and everyone needed at least one gallon of water to survive), then everyone would be able to get their gallon. However, if two people owned 5 gallons each, the other three people could trade something for that water, whether it be favors, services, money or items.

However, if a gaurd came and took 8 gallons of that water, then guess what? Only two people are going to drink. It doesn't matter what services people can provide or how much money they are willing to pay, only two people are going to drink.


--airspoon


reply posted on 6-9-2010 @ 11:14 PM by UmbraSumus
Originally posted by boondock-saint





Ringing phone at the Roots Club .....
---------

Hello , Roots Club ?

Yes , how may i help you ?

I would like to make a reservation .

How many people are in your party ?

3,937,309

Hello ?

Hello .....?



The exception that proves the rule .



reply posted on 6-9-2010 @ 11:18 PM by airspoon
reply to post by boondock-saint



Of course we need to blame Israel for the conditions in Gaza, to include the poverty. It doesn't matter how it's handed out because if there isn't enough, people aren't going to get it. The Gaza authorities aren't magic. They can't feed the entire strip like Jesus and fish and bread.

Of course the western propaganda blames the starvation on Hamas but that is entirely false. Nobody is hoarding those supplies, there just isn't enough. Of course Israel isn't going to admit that they are starving Gaza out, just as the Nazis did to the Jews and Catholics. So, when children are dying of hunger, they simply blame Hamas for hoarding it all.

It's real easy to look at Hamas as some terrorist organization that rules Gaza under their iron fist because that is how they are painted to Americans. Truth is, Hamas was voted in by the people (almost a sweeping majority, I believe) because the very charter of Hamas is to help the Palestinian people. That's why they were created and exist today. In fact, it's why they were democratically elected by the majority of Palestinians in the strip.

The food gets handed out evenly, I'm sure of it, or as evenly as possible. You can't give 2 loaves of bread to 20 families.


--airspoon


reply posted on 6-9-2010 @ 11:47 PM by airspoon
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They show a couple plates of food on an opening night of a restaurant that caters to foreigners and you somehow think that Hamas is hoarding food? First of all, the stake and shrimp that flashes on the screen is only pictures interjected into the video to make you believe that food is there. It's playing head games with you. Those pictures of steak and shrimp were added to the video in editing, which makes it obvious that this is more Israeli propaganda. Really, the only food that you see in that restaurant is a couple of plates with unknown food stuffs. Please don't think because steak and shrimp were flashed across the screen in an after edit of the video that this is what they were serving.

Regardless, this is a restaurant for foreigners and dignitaries that most Palestinians will never see. Why? Not because of Hamas, rather because this place couldn't even begin to feed even a small portion of Gaza.

Furthermore, if the state of Connecticut, New Jersey or Mississippi were to be cut off by some outside force and a very small portion of food was allowed in, you better bet your bottom dollar that the food would be rationed according to need. This means that doctors, leadership and the military would eat first. You can't feed everyone so you might as well keep your necessities healthy.

Also, you have to keep the foreigners happy, hence the restaurant. Without foreign journalists, attention wouldn't be given to their plight. Without foreign dignitaries to forge alliances, they would be on their own.

Trust me, Hamas isn't the evil organization that CNN tells you it is. I thought that you would be able to see that or at least through their propaganda, though apparently not. You can't even see past the obvious propaganda film that so blatantly flashes pictures of steak and shrimp across the screen, as if this is in abundance at the restaurant. Whether the restaurant serves shrimp or not doesn't matter, as it is obvious that those pictures were edited in after the video was made.

Lastly but not least, I'm sure there is a black market of smuggled in food and what better destination than a restaurant where wealthy foreigners can purchase the black market items?

Come on, I thought you were better than that, to be so easily tricked by a blatant attempt at Israeli propaganda, the video with Arabic music to make it appear authentic.


--airspoon

Edited for temperature.

[edit on 7-9-2010 by airspoon]


reply posted on 7-9-2010 @ 12:31 AM by BiGGz
reply to post by boondock-saint



I want to contradict your video with my own,



I don't see 5 star hotels or red lobster restaurants anywhere in sight. I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't a single hotel or restaurant in Gaza.

[edit on 7-9-2010 by BiGGz]
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