The Failure of Conservative Socialism

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posted on Sep, 6 2010 @ 07:54 AM
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Conservatism and communism are much alike, becoming major economic forces in the last 100 years. Both ended up limiting market competition, and, despite their assurances to the contrary, placed power and benefit into the hands of the few at the expense of many. However, conservatism is by far superior to communism, an ideology that, despite 70 years of trying, couldn’t bring down capitalism. Conservatism, once applied, crippled capitalism in less than 30 years. Take THAT, Chairman Mao!


Communism, though, has proven to be much better at realizing it failed. You won’t hear Vlad Putin pining for a return of the dictatorship of the proletariat. Every conservative I’ve heard recently claims they can reanimate this bloating corpse by chanting the incantation of ancient and forgotten “conservative principles.” Folks, the ideology is dead. Call a mortician…but not a conservative one, as they wouldn’t know the difference.


This was a hilarious piece, but also very spot on. I just love it when someone is able to combine comedy in with reality, because really... the two aren't the same.




posted on Sep, 6 2010 @ 09:09 AM
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Uh-huh.

I hope you know fiscal conservatism means a) not bailing out corporations; b) not spending on either the military or social programs. Tell me, when has there been fiscal conservatism? Every president spends his way into pleasing voters or promises to.



posted on Sep, 6 2010 @ 09:53 AM
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It's a shame that he couldn't hide his true colors past the first few paragraphs


The Failure of Conservative Socialism
I thanked him for making my point, and suggested that the Marxist would find it crowded under his bed with all the gays, secular humanists, Mexican immigrants and liberals already occupying that space.


I could be wrong. Maybe he isn't actually a bigot. This could be a list of all the people that he'd actually love to find under his bed!

I'll take O'Rourke up on one point:

The failure of communism.
Having made a great start towards a world socialist revolution, Russia quickly lost its way and chose to establish "Socialism in One Country" despite Trotsky and others warning of its certain failure. Having made their choice they turned into a country run by and for an elite bureacracy instead of a dictatorship of the proletariat which from that moment on became another nation playing the capitalist/imperialist game.

Worse than that, they then set out to undermine the European and World socialist movements including the USA and China. Further, individual countries seeing the threat to their established orders from a proletariat revolution similar to Russia's, started purging socialist party leaders, a practice that still carries on in recent times. Imprisonment and murder are favorite techniques.

Sources:
The Historical and International Foundations of the Socialist Equality Party—Part 1
Regime Change: How the CIA put Saddam's Party in Power


Regime Change: How the CIA put Saddam's Party in Power
...Neither is the fact that the OSS (the US agency that preceded the CIA) had a lot in common with the SS. To both, the biggest evil in the word was summed up in one word, communism. And to both, the elimination of communists, labour activists and other undesirable elements that got in the way of corporatism was their chief preoccupation.



Regime Change: How the CIA put Saddam's Party in Power
1963: Qasim's government is overthrown in a coup bringing the Arab nationalist Ba'ath party to power. They favour the joining together of Iraq, Egypt and Syria in one Arab nation. In the same year, the Ba'ath also come to power in Syria, although the Syrian and Iraqi parties subsequently split.

The Ba'ath strengthen links with the U.S. During the coup, demonstrators are mown down by tanks, initiating a period of ruthless persecution. Up to 10,000 people are imprisoned, many are tortured. The CIA supply intelligence to the Ba'athists on communists and radicals to be rounded up. In addition to the 149 officially executed, about 5,000 are killed in the terror, many buried alive in mass graves. The new government continues the war on the Kurds, bombarding them with tanks, artillery and from the air, and bulldozing villages.





 
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