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posted on Sep, 7 2010 @ 09:11 PM
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Please pray for forgiveness for now obeying God's law if you truly believe and have not done so yet!

Jesus said if you break one of my laws you are guilty of breaking all of my laws.

Remember Jesus said in Rev 7:22Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

He says this at the second resurrection. So people who did things for God but didn't not obey YHVH (God) law are lawless. That is why they have to depart from him. Because you can't have lawlessness in eternity.

remember what Jesus said in Matt 19:17So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? £o one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.” 18He said to Him, “Which ones?”
Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’ 19‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’”
20The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept from my youth. What do I still lack?” 21Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.”




posted on Sep, 7 2010 @ 09:50 PM
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Originally posted by itistrue

Originally posted by nlouise

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
It's not that He "needs" us for battle, because He destroys satan and his armies at the end of the 1,000 year reign with just His spoken word. It
is more like He shares the victory with us over the antichrist.

I for one, have always wanted to fight alongside the Lord on a white heavenly horse.




Ok I got that, but who are the elect that will still be here when Jesus returns?

They will be the 144,000 written about in revelation.
It all ties together....
Please tell others to read this post especially unbelievers... see what they think. The rapture is really close.



I'm sorry OP, I do not see a rapture anywhere in the bible. I see many references to the second coming, and the saints that come with Jesus are those that were martyred for their testimony from before and during tribulation. Those that will be 'taken' (plucked up) while the other is left, are the tares, to be gathered and burned in the fire, at the end 'the harvest'.

I can see 144,000 possibly being taken by God for the Battle of Armegedon, because that is a small number, and there really is a small number of christians that actually use spiritual warfare in day to day life.

Also, the reason Satan argued for Moses body was because he knew that if the children of Israel had it they would make a shrine to it and worship it, which is idolatry. Proof? What happened during the transfiguration when Moses and Elias appeared talking to Jesus? The apostles that were there wanted to build alters to each one of them.



posted on Sep, 7 2010 @ 11:15 PM
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Originally posted by itistrue
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Please pray for forgiveness for now obeying God's law if you truly believe and have not done so yet!

Jesus said if you break one of my laws you are guilty of breaking all of my laws.

Remember Jesus said in Rev 7:22Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

He says this at the second resurrection. So people who did things for God but didn't not obey YHVH (God) law are lawless. That is why they have to depart from him. Because you can't have lawlessness in eternity.

remember what Jesus said in Matt 19:17So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? £o one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.” 18He said to Him, “Which ones?”
Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’ 19‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’”
20The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept from my youth. What do I still lack?” 21Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.”




Rev. 7:22? Jesus said what?!?!?!?
2nd line



posted on Sep, 7 2010 @ 11:22 PM
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Originally posted by itistrue
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Because we will be as God is ruling and reigning with Christ. Can you image all the believers who were raptured coming back equal with GOD

the scripture "Ye are gods" is fullfilled!

Now it is not angels fighting the demons but all the redeemed of God who are equal with him.............


We can never be as God. No one is equal to God.
Ok.........I get it OP!



posted on Sep, 8 2010 @ 01:22 AM
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Originally posted by nlouise

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
It's not that He "needs" us for battle, because He destroys satan and his armies at the end of the 1,000 year reign with just His spoken word. It
is more like He shares the victory with us over the antichrist.

I for one, have always wanted to fight alongside the Lord on a white heavenly horse.




Ok I got that, but who are the elect that will still be here wh
en Jesus returns?


Those christians who were saved during the tribulation.



posted on Sep, 8 2010 @ 01:59 AM
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Since there were no more questions - here is what we need to summerize.
Please read the following scriptures
Luke 21:10-24



posted on Sep, 8 2010 @ 02:01 AM
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Jesus said he did not consider it robery to be equal with God! Think about that! He followed God and prayed to God and was equal to God?

How is this humanly possibly?

Because of everything I wrote here.



posted on Sep, 8 2010 @ 02:37 AM
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Originally posted by itistrue
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Jesus said he did not consider it robery to be equal with God! Think about that! He followed God and prayed to God and was equal to God?

How is this humanly possibly?

Because of everything I wrote here.


Because Jesus is equal to God. He is God manifest in the flesh.



posted on Sep, 8 2010 @ 02:45 AM
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The seventh trumpet blast is after the 1000 year reign of Christ

because the rapture takes place at the feast of Trumpets before the problems of the world.

The rapture already took place PRE-TRIB

The seventh trumpet blast is when the Father comes down from heaven and lives with men.


Very close.

1. Revelation wasn't written at the time Paul wrote that to the church at Corinth. John would write Revelation some 25 years later in 95 AD.

2. The "last trump" is a Hebraism for Rosh Hashanah, or like you say the "Feast of Trumpets". It's the last of 100 trumpet blasts signifying the start of the feast.

3. Because the trumpet blasts in Revelation are blasts of angels, the rapture is the trump of God.



posted on Sep, 8 2010 @ 02:47 AM
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summary continued.

Please read the following scriptures

Luke 21:25-28
above is when Jesus will return and every eye will see him return. So there is hope after the tribulation.

Before the tribulation there is still hope before Jesus takes the real believers away secretly.... I was prepared.. Who else is?

You will have a 7 years period... Everyone knows what happens during the 7 years period right?

if not read the following -

who is the abomination desolation spoken of in Matt 24:15?
This will kick of the tribulation period

Now read all the way to Matt 24:26 - Stop and really think about this one!

Now continue to Isaiah 55:3-4 - King David will lead the armies of the Lord to Defeat all EVIL on the earth AFTER the 1000 years reign of Christ.

Now read Isaiah 55:8 - Jesus is the Read Gaurd in the assualt on Evil when the Army of The Lord comes back to wipe out evil after the 1000 year rule.

In the Above Verse Jesus = YHVH.

This is How it proves the scriptures is true and every man is a liar.....

The Father will come down at the end of the 1000 year reign with the army of the Lord. (The redeemed people of God who were caught away) Plus all the people who died in faith before hand.

This is why the dead in Christ will rise FIRST then those who are left in Christ who are alive will be caught up after those who died believing in YHVH first.

This is revelation revealed and taught about before it actually happened..

But remember one more thing.... Please pass this on to those who are left after the real rapture. Thanks and I pray that you will stand to the end and believe Jesus is the messiah now. Don't take the mark of the beast and do not follow him......If you do you have lost all hope. Stand firm and do not deny Christ even if they kill you because you will be raised up in the end times after all this has happened and have one last shot at redemtion....

How do I know this look in the following scriptures -

Rev 20:11 -15

Thanks for living the last days before it happened. Now it shall really begin........

One more important thing to note:
When the Father comes down to live on earth and the son gives the Father his kingdom and the believers give God their crowns. This proves that all the kings give the king of kings thier kingdoms. Then Jesus proves the scripture

Rev 22:1-5 A pefect Kingdom where everyone is equal with each other and no more fighting ever again!

And this scripture

Rev 22:14 only those who obeyed his commandments will have a right to the tree of life.

So to sum it all up. If you haven't obeyed God's commandments before DO IT NOW. and IF you have obeyed God's commandments but never received the Lord Jesus as your Savior then please do this

1. Admit that you are a sinner in need of a savior
2. Ask God to Forgive you of all your sins
3. Believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins
4. Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior
This is the salvation message clear and simple.. So please please do this.

The feast of trumpets is drawing near in Israel my home and I will be taking only those who have obeyed the commandments and have accepted me as their Lord and savior. So if you have accepted me as you savior then do so now! These are the words written by a faithful servant John in the End TImes. I witnessed these things before they happened. SO IF you see anyone left on earth standing in the courts of the human built temple then claims they are God don't believe them because it is really the devil.... And the same devil will be the abomination desolation.

read 2 Peter 3:17

This really does conclude this Biblical study of the END TIMES> Revelation Revealed.

Jude 1:25 - This scripture is dedicated to Jesus and the Father. Thanks Lord for allowing me to share this with the world............In Jesus name Amen.



posted on Sep, 8 2010 @ 02:50 AM
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Remember Jesus said in Rev 7:22Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

He says this at the second resurrection. So people who did things for God but didn't not obey YHVH (God) law are lawless. That is why they have to depart from him. Because you can't have lawlessness in eternity.



That's one of the most taken out of context verses in all of scripture though. The people who will say that to the Lord on judgment day are not Christians. What do you notice about the reply from those people to their judgments?

They are telling Jesus a list of THEIR works of righteousness. Those folks are relying on their works for salvation rather than the completed work of Jesus Christ at Calvary. "I did this, I did that..." They aren't saying "You already did everything Jesus.."

They are people who follow a works-based salvation.



posted on Sep, 8 2010 @ 02:56 AM
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Here is something to look at www.templemount.org/theries.html

The third temple will be rebuilt by human hands but the one who goes into there as a human being and claims he is God is actually the devil. So don't believe him.... Even if say that person was say a political leader with charm and charisma.

Because Jesus will come back after the 7 years of tribulation and take care of him. Now wait and see who that person will be. I won't be here. But I know who it is......and a friend of mine figured out the translation of the name..... 666 = ?????? ?????

I didn't know it until yesterday! Now it all makes sense to me....



posted on Sep, 8 2010 @ 03:11 AM
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I'll give the sheep a "hint".

This man is the current President of the Club of Rome.



posted on Sep, 8 2010 @ 03:49 AM
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Isaiah 44:1-5
Isaiah 39:3

These are the 144,000 explained in Revelation 7:4-8
They were virgins, the followed the messiah, the were redeemed and they had no deciet in their mouth and without fault before the throne of the living God. - These are the OT - Tanach believers from every tribe of Israel. Who believed in the Messiah without seeing him this was faith looking forward. We have faith looking back and this is easier.

Abraham had the greatest faith of all because he believed God when IAM told him to get up and follow him.......

So this is a lesson about Abraham and the OT believers who God chose to be in the 144,000. To rule in Israel during the 1000 year reign.....

one more thing to mention. With God a day is like 1000 years

Rev 4:11

So is the 1000 years reign in our time or God's time?
It is not 1000 man's time but God's time. This is why no one could understand how we could be on earth for 1000 years and people still get deceived by the enemy.....

Please read the Epistle of Saul who became Paul after he believed.

Philipians 1:1-9. Saul killed Believer in the Messiah during his time on earth and then he was knocked down and humbled from his religous pride and found the truth. Jesus (Yeshua) is God (YHVH) who came down to earth in the flesh. Saul asked a question to the one who knocked him down...
in Acts 9:5 and Jesus (Yeshua) responded to him
Then Saul was scared because he found out the truth and IMMEDIATLY asked the Lord Jesus who was the Christ and God in the Flesh.

Acts 9:6 - Saul acknowledged Jesus as the Messiah and almighty God (YHVH) by asking this question "Lord, What do you want me to do?"

Now Saul was persecuting Yeshua's believers now in an instant he believes and becomes an instant follower of the one he didn't believe!

This is what I called being scared straight. Because Saul was in Acts 22:20 watching the clothes of those who were killing stephen the first one killed for Jesus. This is why Paul became the greatest apostle because he watched clothes while he had consented to the death of stephen.
When he realized what he had done he repented in an instant and obeyed God to the letter without question. No doubt, all faith.

another study will be coming up shortly........think about everything you have read here......



posted on Sep, 8 2010 @ 06:56 AM
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Remember Jesus said in Rev 7:22Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

He says this at the second resurrection. So people who did things for God but didn't not obey YHVH (God) law are lawless. That is why they have to depart from him. Because you can't have lawlessness in eternity.



That's one of the most taken out of context verses in all of scripture though. The people who will say that to the Lord on judgment day are not Christians. What do you notice about the reply from those people to their judgments?

They are telling Jesus a list of THEIR works of righteousness. Those folks are relying on their works for salvation rather than the completed work of Jesus Christ at Calvary. "I did this, I did that..." They aren't saying "You already did everything Jesus.."

They are people who follow a works-based salvation.


Actually it is taken in context. Because the Jehovah winesses when they are judged. They will say Lord Lord and he will say I never knew you. They thought they were serving God but they were not they denied God almighty came into the flesh and was a man.... Their own doctrine proves this and the word of God says in
Matthew 10:33 But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven.

So think about all the work they do trying in what they believe trying to earn their way into heaven... but they deny Jesus as God. This is their belief but not truth

For the true believers we have the righteousness of Christ that is why you can easily figure out the next verse.
Romans 3:5



posted on Sep, 8 2010 @ 07:02 AM
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Now what about the mormons and the book of mormon?
what did Jesus say in
Rev 22:18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;
19and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

They added the whole book of mormon in addition to the Bible! and the preach it....

Don't get me wrong I have had friends that were Jehovah witnesses and Mormon's who were my friends at different levels. You can be the nicest person in the world but without the truth you will have destruction.. peace....

[edit on 8-9-2010 by itistrue]



posted on Sep, 8 2010 @ 07:12 AM
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posted on Sep, 8 2010 @ 09:21 AM
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I know they are folks of the various cults. However, what I said is also true. Those people's words are all telling Jesus what their own works of self-righteousness are, they are saying "I did this, I did that, I'm righteous Jesus, I need to be in heaven for the things I did...."

Yet other Judaising Christians will also claim that since these peoples call Him "Lord" that proves they are believers. Not so fast either, for the Word states that EVERYONE will bow their knee and call Him "Lord" on judgment day. Every last soul.



posted on Sep, 8 2010 @ 09:23 AM
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Originally posted by itistrue
Now what about the mormons and the book of mormon?
what did Jesus say in
Rev 22:18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;
19and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

They added the whole book of mormon in addition to the Bible! and the preach it....

Don't get me wrong I have had friends that were Jehovah witnesses and Mormon's who were my friends at different levels. You can be the nicest person in the world but without the truth you will have destruction.. peace....



What people need to say to Mormons...

"If your religion was started by some white guy from the Midwest a hundred years ago that should raise a BIG warning flag for you..."




posted on Sep, 8 2010 @ 09:50 AM
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Matthew 24: 37-39
As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.

Enoch was taken up into heaven 69 years before Noah was ever born. As it was in the days of Noah will be the coming of the Son of Man. Enoch's life on earth was not included in the days of Noah.

The two witnesses are empowered to shut up the sky so that it will not rain. The prophet Elijah was empowered by the Spirit to bring divine judgment upon Israel during the reign of evil king Ahab (1 Ki 16:30). The nation endured a three year drought until the people turned from Baal worship and returned to the LORD their God (1 Ki 18:45). Many theologians agree that one of the two witnesses will be Elijah. Elijah was taken up to heaven by God and did not die. It is prophesied that Elijah will return before the Day of the LORD.

“See, I will send you the prophet Elijah before that great and dreadful day of the LORD comes. Malachi 4:5

Some students of the Bible believe that the second witness will be Enoch because, like Elijah, he did not die but was taken up to be with God (Gen 5:24). I believe that there is strong scriptural evidence that points to Moses as the second witness. The witnesses are empowered to turn the waters into blood and strike the earth with various plagues as did Moses during the time of the Exodus. Moses represents the Law, while Elijah is representative of the prophets. Both Elijah and Moses were with Jesus at the mountain of transfiguration (Mt 17:3). The book of Jude records that the archangel Michael disputed with the devil about the body of Moses (Jude 9). The only argument offered against the theory that the second witness will be Moses is based on Hebrews 9:27 which reads: Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment. Because Moses died, they rule out the possibility that he is the second witness. But Jesus is the resurrection and the life (Jn 11:25). Lazarus, the daughter of Jairus, and the only son of a widow, were all raised from the dead to physically die again. With God all things are possible!

The two witnesses, no matter who God chooses to fulfill His divine plan, will be anointed prophets. Their lamps will burn brightly with the pure oil of His Spirit.




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