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Originally posted by okbmd
Hey bonez , you are constantly talking about "flashes" . Why don't you post some video that shows those alleged flashes instead of demanding that everyone take your word as gospel ?
Originally posted by okbmd
You have posted NOTHING , NADA , ZILCH , that would even remotely prove controlled demolition .
Originally posted by okbmd
Unlike yourself , Varemia has posted some convincing material
Originally posted by okbmd
The vid in the op proves that if one floor is removed , the top portion of the building can and will fall on to the lower part of the building crushing it all the way to the ground , and then , the top portion of the building can and will be crushed from the bottom up .
Originally posted by okbmd
PROVING that no explosives were needed to have the towers collapse in the fashion that they did .
Originally posted by okbmd
It's not that you don't understand bonez , it's simply that you don't want to understand .
Originally posted by okbmd
That's what it looks like , because that is exactly what it is .
Originally posted by okbmd
Do you just make this stuff up as you go bonez , or do you like , have an exclusive monopoly on nonsense ?
Originally posted by okbmd
So , with that in mind , the only thing that would need to be accomplished for a controlled demolition is to disengage the trusses from the perimeter box columns and the core columns and presto , you have a collapse in progress .
Originally posted by okbmd
Which brings me to my question . Bonez , do you honestly believe that a high-powered explosive is needed to blow a 5/8" bolt ?
Originally posted by Chadwickus
There a few things that are carried out in a controlled demolition, things such as physically weakening key points of the structure before any explosives are even placed in the building
a new generation of buildings has come into existence at the end of 60s - namely steel-framed buildings.
Despite common misconception, there were no steel-framed skyscrapers ever been demolished by an implosion anywhere in the world.
Primarily, because most of skyscrapers are new buildings and their time to be demolished has not come yet.
The tallest building ever demolished by an implosion was only 47-strories high - it was the Singer Building in New York City that was built in 1908 and demolished in 1968 due to its being obsolete.
This building was a much weaker structure compare to incredibly strong hollow-tube type steel-frame skyscrapers being built today.
So, despite common misconception, it is not possible to demolish a steel-frame building by a commonly known controlled demolition (implosion) scheme.
In bygone days when buildings were brick-walled and concrete-paneled, their bearing structures used to be concrete supporting columns and concrete supporting girders.
Sometimes these concrete bearing structures were reinforced by insertions of metal bars, but sometimes they were plain concrete. In either case it was possible to calculate right amount of conventional explosives to be attached to these bearing structures at right spots (or to be placed into holes drilled in bearing structures) in order to break them all at once and to cause the building to collapse into its footprint.
However, it is no longer possible with modern steel-framed buildings - such as, for example former Twin Towers of the New Your World Trade Center, World Trade Center building # 7, or the Sears Tower in Chicago. Here is an example of steel structure of the WTC Twin Tower:
Originally posted by Blue_Jay33
reply to post by Varemia
No Way!
I present this more detailed photo of the massive amount of steel that was being used to construct this building.
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/058ecfe60356.jpg[/atsimg]
It amazes me that people think that a large flying aluminum can can destroy this internal spire made of huge steel beams.
glued together metal toothpick building
Originally posted by Blue_Jay33
reply to post by Varemia
glued together metal toothpick building
You look at that picture and then make that statement.
It's rare to see a post that so effectively epitomizes the huge totality of emotional denial the trusters have.
Congratulations.
Originally posted by Another Vodka
reply to post by BAZ752
So, you are a civil engineer. That should inspire your curiosity to get some physical data about the collapse of the buildings. Please get in contact with Richard Gage and also spend some time at www.ae911truth.org for the information you need.
Over 1200 architects and engineers doubt the OS. There are pilots, patriots and many other organized groups who feel the OS is false.
I challenge you to spend a mere 24 hours of accumulated time searching the net, reading correspondence, studying data. You may feel compelled return to the ATS 911 forum after you have increased your knowledge of the subject and post your impressions.
Originally posted by BAZ752
I merely questioned that there must surely be other possibilities that _BoneZ_ should be prepared to accept not just those that are apparent ''facts'' to him or her.
Originally posted by Varemia
The thing about the inner spire is that there is evidence in video form of the inner spire remaining intact for a moment while the outside collapsed downward. Then, without the outer support, the inner spire inevitably collapsed as well.