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Topic started on 5-9-2010 @ 06:49 PM by css1981

Hi everybody,

I saw this verry interresting article, wich I want to share here with everybody. The writer of the article claims that the holy quran speaks about aliens.

So could it be true ? Does the quran really speak about aliens or do we have to 'translate' them as the angels of God ? I know that the debate about this is old, but maybe we have to accept that the quran may well tell the truth about this subject...

Is there any alien intelligent life ?
Although the discovery of any form of life outside the earth would be
dramatic,humankind is especially interested in knowing whether there
is any alien intelligent life in the universe.NASA previously had a
program on the search for extraterrestrial intelligence
(SETI).Although now scrapped due to budget cuts, private SETI
organizations (19) have now been made which continue the search.The
Planetary Society, (20) a private organization,in which the film
director Steven Speilberg (21) is a member of the Board of
Directors,has the largest SETI program in the world.So far, no sign
of alien intelligent life has turned up.Can the Quran provide an
answer?

Sura 27:65 commands,"Say:None in the heavens or on earth, except
God,knows what is hidden:nor can they perceive when they shall be
raised up (for Judgement)." (22) This shows that,like humans,there
are other creatures in the universe that will also be raised from the
dead.We are told in 19:93-96,"Not one of the beings in the heavens
and the earth but must come to (God) Most Gracious as a servant.He
does take an account of them (all),and hath numbered them (all)
exactly.And everyone of them will come to Him singly on the Day of
Judgement.On those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, will
(God) Most Gracious bestow love." (23) From these verses we learn
that there are alien lifeforms that,like us,will also be judged
according to the works that they do during their lives.Among them are
the believers.Therefore,naturally,there will also be those aliens who
are unbelievers.The believers will be rewarded.The lifeforms being
descibed in the above verses can hardly be expected to be
microorganisms.The Quran is referring to creatures of a level of
development that makes them morally accountable beings.They must be
organisms possessing qualities which we would ascribe to intelligent
lifeforms.

For the full article see here :

www.alienshift.com...

reply posted on 5-9-2010 @ 08:58 PM by CitizenNum287119327

reply to post by css1981

S&F: The Qur'an has some interesting ideas in it. Jinn were created from fire, and Humans were created from earth. There must be other life out there, with all those billions upon billions of stars

I Noticed also from the source article your thread links to is this fact (below) they mention from the Qur'an:

Sura 51:47 informs us,"And it is We who have built the universe with (Our creative) power; and, verily, it is We who are steadily expanding it."

So The Qur'an, recited by Muhammad between 610-632AD, said that the Universe is expanding!

And the accepted 'expanding universe' theories from einstein, hubble, et al; are from what date?

reply posted on 5-9-2010 @ 09:01 PM by Romantic_Rebel

This site discuses great verses of science in the Koran.
Tell me what you think?
skepticsannotatedbible.com...

reply posted on 5-9-2010 @ 09:15 PM by satnav_c-1

im not religous in any way im a fact guy, u say god brought brought anger and vengance to the non believers through the wind
i say its a hurricane , it accures wen hot and cold tempretures ,meet
the bible BS
a book supposed to be history but its written 600 hundred years after jesus died and its full of fantasy storys that farthers would tell his kids as a bed time story
and im not dissin jesus or christianity but ur book is imagination from generations ago
now like i said im not religous but the quran does hav more facts then storys
but again brings more pain then the good it was written for ?
so for the extremists out ther lookin to do a bit of mass murder
i say WHO MADE YOU JUDGE because allah is gunna be pissssed wen u get up ther trust

reply posted on 5-9-2010 @ 09:19 PM by CitizenNum287119327

reply to post by Romantic_Rebel

the website you mentioned: Skeptics taking things out of context.
eg #9 "The sun ... runneth unto an appointed term." does not mean what they say. it means the sun will eventually burn out.

reply posted on 5-9-2010 @ 09:21 PM by Romantic_Rebel

Originally posted by CitizenNum287119327
reply to post by Romantic_Rebel

the website you mentioned: Skeptics taking things out of context.
eg #9 "The sun ... runneth unto an appointed term." does not mean what they say. it means the sun will eventually burn out.

Don't shoot the messenger. That was just the only site I could find. I do have a book by a Muslim scholar who has devoted a chapter to discuss science in the Koran and then with Muslim scientists.

reply posted on 5-9-2010 @ 09:39 PM by CitizenNum287119327

reply to post by Romantic_Rebel

I wasn't shooting at ya

I too have read a booklet regarding science found in the Qur'an.
perhaps a better website??? ScienceInQuran.com

Happy Trails RR!

reply posted on 5-9-2010 @ 09:40 PM by Romantic_Rebel

reply to post by CitizenNum287119327

I got to ask you! Are you a Muslim by any chance?
Just curious?

reply posted on 5-9-2010 @ 09:49 PM by CitizenNum287119327

reply to post by Romantic_Rebel

I put the following into another thread here on ATS:
Some Info

maybe one day

reply posted on 5-9-2010 @ 10:00 PM by Romantic_Rebel

Originally posted by CitizenNum287119327
reply to post by Romantic_Rebel

I put the following into another thread here on ATS:
Some Info

maybe one day

Humm? Well it determines what you are looking for in Islam. I used to be a Christian who accepted Muhammad as a prophet of God. I did learn a lot about Islam. Still it is confusing and like the Bible verses can be interpenetrated many different ways.

reply posted on 6-9-2010 @ 03:21 AM by css1981

reply to post by CitizenNum287119327

Yes, you are correct.

To me personaly the quran is also more reliable in facts than the bible is.

reply posted on 6-9-2010 @ 12:14 PM by threelions

reply to post by CitizenNum287119327

the quran is too basic to be the work of extraterrestrials. The science claims in it are at best laughable.

Here is a link that debunks all of the ridiculous claims made by muslims about how advanced the science is in the quran.

www.youtube.com...

reply posted on 6-9-2010 @ 12:36 PM by jazz10

I was only asking for a thread like this to be posted the other day. Many thanks. What do other religions etc say and predict? I'm very interested.
Regarding aliens? Ancient aliens thread says more or less the same thing.

reply posted on 6-9-2010 @ 01:04 PM by FOXMULDER147

Originally posted by CitizenNum287119327
Sura 51:47 informs us,"And it is We who have built the universe with (Our creative) power; and, verily, it is We who are steadily expanding it."

Of course, because something doesn't exist without being observed and our ability to observe the universe is increasing exponentially with technological advancement. Ergo, the universe is expanding simply because we observe more of it.

reply posted on 6-9-2010 @ 01:29 PM by GeisterFahrer

I don't see how anything in the Koran can be taken seriously as "fact".

Now, King Solomon's writings ..... different story.

He once mentioned the differential rotation of the sun.

reply posted on 6-9-2010 @ 06:31 PM by css1981

reply to post by CitizenNum287119327

Thanks for that link.

This website explains the quran verry good.

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