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reply posted on 7-9-2010 @ 11:30 PM by nunya13
reply to post by Boomer1941


I find it interesting still when people bring up all the horrible things the Quar'ran teaches as some kind of evidence that Muslims suck. All the while, the bible has some equally horrific things to say. My favorites are allowing to sell children into slavery, not touching women and making them sleep in the barn while their being visited by the Aunt Flow (those aren't horrific, but still my favorite)


reply posted on 8-9-2010 @ 11:29 PM by Boomer1941
Originally posted by nunya13
reply to post by Boomer1941


I find it interesting still when people bring up all the horrible things the Quar'ran teaches as some kind of evidence that Muslims suck. All the while, the bible has some equally horrific things to say. My favorites are allowing to sell children into slavery, not touching women and making them sleep in the barn while their being visited by the Aunt Flow (those aren't horrific, but still my favorite)


I wouldn't defend the bible at all, you name it, it's all there, but I don't see any Christan terrorists suicide bombing anyone.

My question would be why haven't the Muslims as a whole stood up as a whole, everywhere and condemned these Islamic Terrorists, where are the demonstrations, where's the PR Campaign???


reply posted on 9-9-2010 @ 04:53 PM by soficrow
Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

a series of religiously sanctioned military campaigns...The Crusades originally had the goal of recapturing Jerusalem and the Holy Land from Muslim rule and were launched in response to a call from the Christian Byzantine Empire for help against the expansion of the Muslim Seljuk Turks into Anatolia. The term is also used to describe contemporaneous and subsequent campaigns conducted through to the 16th century in territories outside the Levant[3] usually against pagans, heretics, and peoples under the ban of excommunication[4] for a mixture of religious, economic, and political reasons.[5] Rivalries among both Christian and Muslim powers led also to alliances between religious factions against their opponents, such as the Christian alliance with the Sultanate of Rum during the Fifth Crusade.


Baaa.



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reply posted on 10-9-2010 @ 06:12 AM by pacific_waters
It's truly amazing how you were able to take a sensible post into a paranoid conspiracy fantasy. I do oppose the islamification of Europe and the rest of the West because I dislike islam and I'm not afraid to admit it. I don't want Islam to run the wordl aby more than I want any religion to run the world. Islam is a complete system for living life and encompasses legal and political rules as well religious. You have 2 things right. Immigrants aren't the traitors. The elites in Whitehall, the White House and the EU parliament are. But those who come to any western nation and wish to subvert it are invaders. Our enemies are both those who wish to impose shariah law and those in power who collude with them.

Originally posted by Cythraul


The terrifying thing about this is that most patriots I speak to are unwilling to consider Muslims a pawn in the game, every bit as much as Europeans are. Saying that 9/11 and 7/7 were implemented to setup Islam as 'the bad guy' is seen as siding-with-the-liberal-left-establishment, when in reality it is the only genuine anti-establishment position. It is strongly-believed that the establishment are pro-Islam and that if the media and government are apologising for Muslims, then Muslims must be the enemy every bit as much as the government. This is wrong!

I oppose the Islamification of Europe - not because I dislike Islam but simply because I wish to preserve the ancient native heritage of Europe. It's not to do with hating foreign cultures but rather loving native ones.

I worry first and foremost for the liberties of all people worldwide. Liberty is not worth sacrificing for the sake of cultural preservation, if that is even what it would come to. Our enemies are the traitors in charge, not the people who choose to follow a different way of life to ourselves, nor the ones who take advantage of lax border controls to make a better life for themselves.




This, like all threads surrounding Islam and Muslims, is likely to become heated. I hope we can all remain respectful.



reply posted on 10-9-2010 @ 12:31 PM by ender_shadow
reply to post by babybunnies


There are a couple of things that are incorrect in your statement:

1) In the 1930's, at least in Germany, France and other "leading" countries, the Jewish "Elite" (i.e. the "non-religious") were pretty much integrated into society as artists, bankers, politicians, journalists, scientists etc. Muslims for the most part tend to live in closed communities (like some Jewish communities in eastern Europe - although they did that mostly for protection as a result of Pogroms and such).

2) In the 1930's, Jews didn't have a homeland (or 20+), so, Muslims aren't as much "unknowing" scapegoats, but they really like the part (I refer you to the riots in Paris several years ago), there are places in France that the police does not dare go into...

3) So far, Islam is the only religion that uses violence when a religious icon of it is being insulted (the Mohammad caricatures in Denmark several years ago... Salman Rushdi and many other examples).

I could go on, but you get my drift.

I have no idea where most of the people reading this site come from, but coming from a country that has been in direct war with the Arab (no Muslim) world since its inception, and well before that (I live in Israel in case you haven't figured that out), I can tell you that religion has been a driving force here, and that yes, there are Muslims that are moderate. But most of you don't really know the history of Islam, how it came to be, what it teaches and the specific sects within it (She'ite, Suni, Whahabi, Salafi etc), for example, Muslims kill more Muslims in the name of Islam than the "west" does... The Koran clearly states that any believing Muslim should kill infidels where he finds them, unless they convert and willing to live as a "minority" (something called a "Di'mi").

Also, you should know that Islam also commands the believer to "pretend" to be a friend of the infidel in the case the infidel is stronger, allowing the Muslim to attack and break any truce when the Muslim has the ability to attack.

Anyway, I could write on and on - all I am saying is that Muslims are not the scapegoats of the world, they are the current "bad-guys", but hey, they seem to be really liking the part... the real scapegoats of the world are those poor people that are being sacrificed on the alter of global political interests regardless of their religion and beliefs...


reply posted on 11-9-2010 @ 08:18 AM by tellmethen
reply to post by Cythraul


If "good " Muslims don't start shoving the wild eyed gun crazed rabid (and any other adjective that describes them) soul mate brothers of theirs out in the streets and screaming "IT's THEM!! THEY'RE THE TERRORISTS!!), I might buy in to the good and peaceful people.
Until they do more to ACTIVELY assist in stopping this crap I say they are all bad.
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