I Want The Truth! You Can't Handle The Truth!

Citizens of ATS,

While you all are sleeping cozily in your beds at night I, the prophet, am awake running laps through the cemetery. While you are watching football, making love, and poisoning yourselves with stimulants and anti-depressants I am ruminating on how to make the world a better place. I deal in reality, not some pipe dreams spawned in my ass and destined to circle the greasy and sordid porcelain void that is the world today.

Michael Jackson said "I'm gonna make a change, for once in my life. I'm gonna feel real good, gonna make a difference, gonna make things riiiaaaiiiiggghhhhht." But none of you people even care about the starving African children. To the unfeeling inhabitants of the raping industrialized nations everything is black or white, if it isn't on the global economic imperialist agenda it can just beat it. All I wanna say is that they don't really care about us...

But ladies and gentlemen I took a good look at myself one day, my apathetic face, the fakeness and shallowness of that man in the mirror. I swear upon looking at my reflection I was no better than a child molester who was in reality looking for the child inside myself.

Now I make pacts, I strike bargains, I give my word to friends and I make sure I follow through with actions because only pragmatism can survive past 2012. I have had visions of the coming regeneration of society and it's so exciting, it's so sweet. Believe me for I would like to share my wonderment with you all. I know what you are thinking right now. Your saying to yourself "But prophet, it's too hard, all the bills I have to pay, how will my children eat, how will I survive?" And I tell you right here and now that it CAN be done. We just have to start somewhere. We must begin our journey with the truth.


Next I will talk a little about an excerpt from one of the most profound yet least known books ever conceived. This comes from Friedrich Nietzsche's "The Birth of Tragedy".

"It is an eternal phenomenon: the insatiate will can always, by means of an illusion spread over things, detain its creatures in life and compel them to live on. One is chained by the Socratic love of knowledge and the delusion of being able thereby to heal the eternal wound of existence; another is ensnared by art's seductive veil of beauty fluttering before his eyes; still another by the metaphysical comfort that beneath the flux of phenomena eternal life flows on indestructibly: to say nothing of the more ordinary and almost more powerful illusions which the will has always at hand. These three planes of illusions are on the whole designed for the more nobly formed natures, who in general feel profoundly the weight and burden of existence, and must be deluded by exquisite stimulants into forgetfulness of their sorrow."

Did you feel that? Buuurrrrhhhh! Chilly I know. And also very sobering for the world of illusion may seem inexplicable at times. After all, if one is truly to serve the humanity of the body then limits will always land the trajectory of their will into the land of illusion. For to truly extract the secret truths of existence and the soulful marrow of nature's bones one must go beyond one's own humanity into the realm of the unknown, into madness... Don't cry... be calm my young pups, be still... narry was there more of a worry than worry itself.

Verily the truths of this world have stringent gatekeepers whose names are illusion, madness, and death but we must be undeterred on our quest. The closer one comes to truth the more suffering one must be burdened by, the more sorrows must be transubstantiated into joy and matter turned to spirit. I tell you truthfully that fate is temperament and the trials we face are truly the trials we can bear. Have faith my children of the light, my future maestros of a new humanity.

Peace, Love, and Soul,
A Prophet

[edit on 4-9-2010 by AProphet1233]

I am content in knowing what the truth is not and have had many hard lessons to learn about all the smoke,mirrors and magic out there,in reality there is not a commonly accepted faith dogma doctrine or creed on this rock worth a cup of warm piss.As for what the truth is I dont know and dont wish to know as the reward for fording the sewers of the rabbit hole leading there is madness or death.

You mister have a lot of nerve telling me what I can or can't handle! I'm sure you're just what the world needs right now, another damn "prophet"!
As far as I'm concerned, any interest Jackson had in kids wasn't about feeding them! Well not little boys, anyway!

oh boy an other self proclaimed saver, just what we need, now if you are, tell us why was JFK killed, and by who?, for i do want the truth for not my sake but for the sake of truth and justice, for no one is above the law. Say you are a prophet,then why do you stand on your own pulpit? should one not say look there he is, not here i am?

We haven all chosen the ride we are on. We stepped up to the cigar chomping fat man and handed over our money. We smiled in gleefull anticipation as the bar clamped down across our laps and the wheels crept forward. Sometimes a roller coaster, somtimes a Ferris wheel, there between, the soft pats of our footsteps echo.Ride to ride we go, munching on cotton candy. But I have been to this amusement park before, many,many times. I had ridden all of the rides countless times. I have mastered all of the games. I have laid with the fat lady and fed the tiger. I no longer hear the words of the midway barker, beckoning me to play on. I am tired. I want to go home. Home in the arms of those that best love me, I shall contently slumber. Carry me home oh dear ones. Carry home to my warm, soft bed, surrounded by my toys. Namaste.reply to post by AProphet1233

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Thank you Prophet, for a taste of the wisdom of man, and the reminder of the price we must pay to gather this fruit.

We all find ourselves closer to death, each and every day. There is no avoiding this Truth. This portion of the price involved therefore costs us nothing, so I willingly pay it.

Lifting the veil of illusion is an arduous task, especially at the beginning. It requires a single mindedness that the average man rarely channels in their brief flicker of existence upon the Earth. When one finds that they are shackled with this burden, it is usually not by choice, but instead it's as if the irresistible force has taken hold of their self, to wage battle with the immovable object. This ensuing struggle is epic in scale, unavoidable by nature, and yes, does not come easily and without a price.

Which brings us to madness.

I indeed am closer to it than I was years ago, when I unquestionably enjoyed the prison made up of sweet untruths and innocent observations. However I knew years before my search began that I would one day follow this path to wherever it may lead me. The curious, skeptical voice inside has spoken to me since I was a small child, and there was never any doubt that one day it would take me on a journey. The eventual destination is sometimes called the Dark Forest, sometimes called the Chapel Perilous; it is a place that you cannot leave the same as you arrived. What you leave with is knowledge, with an equal measure of madness. If you are strong, and careful, you can balance these two gifts, and be the wiser for it.


Many never question this existence, and I believe that this is how it is supposed to be. The awakening cannot be forced upon someone, as it comes from a place that one is COMPELLED to visit---willingly and alone.

The truth is to find out how to get past these evil disgusting ways and learn how to be tolerant and love. It's not some huge secret and If you truely knew then why not spread the truth instead of hide it? It's not meant to be hidden it's meant to be shared and learned by everyone not already of this knowledge. This is just a game or an illusion and I too have grown tired as KlatuuMagnum has stated. I have percieved that there is more out there than you can see, feel, taste, touch, or hear, but that doesn't make it not real. We are all being tested and I hope many of us can pass.

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This makes me think of a proposition... I wonder, if the truth was easily available, and knowing the mechanisms by which the world works, what motivation would those who knew the "truth" have to keep the system moving/propel life for it's continuation etc... I don't see an enlightened guru having kids and working hard hours every week to support a dream that he knows in reality is an illusion, at the worst levels the drive to struggle for existence is erased and then there is only death.

Although if truth is very elusive and people who have access to it a minority because the path is jagged and the labyrinth guarded by terrible monsters, then it becomes a sort of universal commodity for it's scarcity. After all, a requisite condition for existence must be at the very least some degree of truth. Anyway, under these conditions those who have learned the truth of life will on the one hand lose all desire to struggle for existence and be summoned to death, but on the other hand the world would be in great need of their services so by a universal sort of prerogative which is also an irony an abundance of life would be given.

Make any sense?


[edit on 4-9-2010 by AProphet1233]

Originally posted by AProphet1233

While you all are sleeping cozily in your beds at night I, the prophet, am awake running laps through the cemetery.

reply to post by solarstorm


True story.



[edit on 4-9-2010 by AProphet1233]

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Your first paragraph hits close to home. I wonder if the voice that has been with me since I was a wee lad has also led me down the path of never wanting/having children for this very reason. I have certainly had ample opportunities to do so. I also have lost the drive I once had to "succeed" in business, as I see it all for the scheme it is now, and care little about it. This may lead to a headlong dive into oblivion. At the very least it will certainly make my life less comfortable in a material sense. Odd that this does not bother me, but then again, not so odd.

Truths are often given freely, but rarely accepted. while I do not in any way, shape, or form consider myself a "guru" or a keeper of great secrets, even if this were the case, those that would need the information and meager truths I have uncovered simply do not want them, or have no use for them just yet. So the currency I have is not real money, just worthless paper. The irony is great indeed, and not lost on me. The people who would accept the words of said guru at face value are not even looking for the truth, even if they think they are. They are looking for an easy answer. A short cut through the dark forest. But, to use a somewhat related metaphor, without giving the ferryman his penny, your journey will never be completed.

I shall now do 1000 crunches in the shadowy nexus 'tween the great obelisk and the Grand Lodge, whilst flipping the bird to any who may gaze in my general direction!

[edit on 4-9-2010 by erumisato]

Originally posted by AProphet1233
But none of you people even care about the starving African children.

i bought some food for them. i sent it to them. but it went bad by the time it got there.

what the hell is wrong with you AProphet1233? you are accusing me, in front of all ATS, that i don't care at all about starving children?

how am i suppose to respond to that sentence? that hurts.

-et



[edit on 4-9-2010 by Esoteric Teacher]

I think I get what the OP is saying.

For those who have found the 'truth' they must go through the dark forest alone(?) These people should not support a system that contradicts their newfound Wisdom, but should rather do all and be all to put themselves on the path to their own justified 'paradise'?

As a woman, I had always wanted to have kids, even been pressured by my parents, but the time does not feel right, and what scares me, is that I don't think it ever will 'feel right' in this life. For those who have gained The Sight, use it, be it, FEAR NOTHING, do not worry about what The Machine will think. You're absolutely right OP, what good could this system do for a Guru, but deter himself/herself from The Absolute and Infinite Truths?

If more people focused on first, Discovering The Ocean inside themselves, then, they could pay The Ferryman in SEE-shells. You make your path, end and begin as you see fit. Not everyone will walk the same way, not everyone will make it through.

This is 'The Life' do what you do.


[edit on 4-9-2010 by leira7]

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then, they could pay The Ferryman in SEE-shells.


Life needs more puns. This is Great Wisdom.


I like the cut of your jib!

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It is true that truth isn't the most desirable thing, unless you're addicted to veracity in your personal life and overly neurotic, and in the sense that childish desires may occupy all your efforts instead of focusing on spiritual growth. But it seems to me to be a law of the universe that we either must learn and grow or pay more of a price for staying the same. Begrudgingly we all are forced to witness disasters in our lives until we get something from it and can move on. So while people may dread the day of meeting the ferryman waiting to escort aimless souls across the seas of misfortune, or the guide touring the various circles of hell, etc... it is a necessary trip all must take sooner or later.

Originally posted by AProphet1233
...This comes from Friedrich Nietzsche's "The Birth of Tragedy".

"It is an eternal phenomenon: the insatiate will can always, by means of an illusion spread over things, detain its creatures in life and compel them to live on. One is chained by the Socratic love of knowledge and the delusion of being able thereby to heal the eternal wound of existence; another is ensnared by art's seductive veil of beauty fluttering before his eyes; still another by the metaphysical comfort that beneath the flux of phenomena eternal life flows on indestructibly: to say nothing of the more ordinary and almost more powerful illusions which the will has always at hand. These three planes of illusions are on the whole designed for the more nobly formed natures, who in general feel profoundly the weight and burden of existence, and must be deluded by exquisite stimulants into forgetfulness of their sorrow."

...For to truly extract the secret truths of existence and the soulful marrow of nature's bones one must go beyond one's own humanity into the realm of the unknown, into madness...

Verily the truths of this world have stringent gatekeepers whose names are illusion, madness, and death but we must be undeterred on our quest. The closer one comes to truth the more suffering one must be burdened by, the more sorrows must be transubstantiated into joy and matter turned to spirit. I tell you truthfully that fate is temperament ...

Oh my.

"the truths of this world have stringent gatekeepers whose names are illusion, madness, and death"

...The illusions are knowledge, art and metaphysics - which are "exquisite stimulants" that lead us to forget our sorrows.

But many paths lead to the same place, do they not? Truth can be found in knowledge, art and metaphysics, can it not? Provided one realizes that the thing itself is not the truth? Which realization leads to suffering, sorrow and madness?

"The closer one comes to truth the more suffering one must be burdened by, the more sorrows must be transubstantiated into joy..."

So facing truth means accepting the burden of suffering. The weight of the suffering is real, the burden is real, but can be transmuted to joy instead of madness. How? By losing one's emotional attachment? To what? Emotional attachment?

... "and matter turned to spirit."

I am SO pleased that you didn't say "spirit turned to matter." ...Makes this so much more than just another new age manifestation manifesto.

Thank you. S&F.

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I think you are twisting his intent. After all couple of his other statements are in my signature. Ultimate "truths" would fall unders facts.

the truth is all that matters to me i dont know why im obsessed with it..that ive developed some kind of skill of worming out the truth from people without them knowing what i was trying to do. girls have the very intricate lies.
there are things that you feel that you shouldnt have known...but when you're over it it sets you free.

I see the word 'truth' as a very much inflated trademark of preaching charlatans. It is pretty much analogous to as if someone would charge you for the air you breathe. The truth is in front of our eyes, yet we fail to see it. It is free for anyone.

Even if I wanted, I could not take the OP seriously. It is a decent joke

-v

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That quote was taken from the first book he wrote so I wouldn't be surprised if his later writings had something different to say.