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Originally posted by autowrench
reply to post by adjensen
God says that he wants a relationship with you. If you wish to live your life in a manner that you personally judge as being good, that's fine, but you will not have that relationship (with the benefits that come with it) if you ignore or reject God.
That's just the thing....no one knows what God said, or even if there even was what could be called a real, Omnipotent, Omnipresent, Infallible Deity that created all of this, Earth, Man/Woman, Universe. This is all taken on faith, actually, for there is not a shred of evidence to prove God's existence. Same with Jesus, an English name, blond hair and beard, this is obviously not a man from the Middle East, right? Only the NT speaks of him, and yet millions believe he is real, that he rose from the dead, and that he is GOD ALMIGHTY.
Sorry, but it is hard for me to just wrap my mind around this and accept it as fact with all that I know.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by IAMIAM
Really, you wish to resort to semantics to justify your blasphemy?? How sad.
Look, you're not doing to well right now, perhaps it's time to log into your other account and give yourself some stars?
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by IAMIAM
I need to add also that we are NOT "all equal before God". God sees us as either repentant sinners or unrepentant sinners. He still loves us nonetheless, and wishes us all to come to repentance, but the idea that we are all perfect and justified on our OWN merits its absolutely false.
We need Christ's righteousness, our own self-righteousness is repugnant to God.
I do not come here to glorify myself, I come here to help you understand and yet you will not even try.
If you think I use two accounts, notify the Staff. They have ways of verifying these things.
So, what is a King?
Originally posted by autowrench
Well! I am certainly happy that you are a spokesman for God. Even if I were a Christian, which I am not, I would never go so far as to claim that I was God's public relations person. I hear that a lot from good meaning Christians, it is like they have a direct pipeline to God, and if you become just like they are, you can have it too. I have even been told by these people that I do not have a Soul, that only the blood of Jesus can provide me with a proper soul, they call it a "Holy Spirit." The Father and Mother that I know are not these cruel beings who demand blood sacrifice and cannibalistic rituals in which human flesh and blood are consumed by proxy, in a ritual performed by "Men of God."
CHRISTIAN CANNIBALS
Because Christians have been participating in the communion ritual for many years, they tend to forget just how bizarre this ritual is. The whole idea of "eating Jesus' body" and "drinking his blood" is grotesque in the extreme.
Have you ever wondered where this ritual came from, or why billions of people would participate in a ritual that is this bizarre? First, let's look at the part of the Bible that prescribes the ritual.
You find it in Mark, Chapter 14:
"And as they were eating, he took bread, and blessed, and broke it, and gave it to them, and said, "Take; this is my body." And he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he gave it to them, and they all drank of it. And he said to them, "This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many."
Jesus gets far more graphic, however, in John chapter 6:53-55:
"So Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed."
To any non Christian oriented person, this sounds very much like the script of a gruesome horror film. It sounds like some sort of revolting satanic ritual. It definitely does not sound like the words of the all-loving creator of the universe, does it?
Imagine that you are a normal person, and you have never been exposed to Christianity before. Now imagine that a Christian comes up to you and quotes John 6:53. Any normal adult would rightfully assume the Christian to be insane. Thus, you never see a bumper sticker that says "John 6:53."
However, the assumption is accurate. The dictionary describes cannibalism in the following way:
*the eating of human flesh by another human being.
*the eating of the flesh of an animal by another animal of its own kind.
*the ceremonial eating of human flesh or parts of the human body for magical or religious purposes, as to acquire the power or skill of a person recently killed.
dictionary.reference.com...
What Jesus is demanding is cannibalism.
Well! I am certainly happy that you are a spokesman for God.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Did you miss where I said I'm not going to play semantics with you?
No, God's Word has divided us. I follow it. You are a mere man and claim to be God. You're not the King of Kings, Jesus Christ is and will forever be. You're a liar and a heretic.
Originally posted by IAMIAM
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Did you miss where I said I'm not going to play semantics with you?
It is not semantics. It is understanding. If you do not even KNOW the meaning of the word, how can you understand the statement?
You are proving yourself a fool, and you can do better than this.
What does King mean?
The word "semantics" means the interpretation of the meaning of a word or sentence. So if someone says you are just playing with semantics they are probably trying to tell you that you are avoiding the real issue involved in whatever it was you were talking about. So, instead of responding to the substance of what was said you may be focusing instead on arguing over the meaning of some word or phrase. People often quibble over semantics when confronted with a difficult or unpleasant topic to avoid dealing directly with it.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by IAMIAM
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Did you miss where I said I'm not going to play semantics with you?
It is not semantics. It is understanding. If you do not even KNOW the meaning of the word, how can you understand the statement?
You are proving yourself a fool, and you can do better than this.
What does King mean?
The word "semantics" means the interpretation of the meaning of a word or sentence. So if someone says you are just playing with semantics they are probably trying to tell you that you are avoiding the real issue involved in whatever it was you were talking about. So, instead of responding to the substance of what was said you may be focusing instead on arguing over the meaning of some word or phrase. People often quibble over semantics when confronted with a difficult or unpleasant topic to avoid dealing directly with it.
You're not the King of kings, Jesus Christ is and is alone.
I mean Akragon, posted random quotes that were not linked to a source for study of the context. That's blatantly dishonest.
It doesn't contradict at all. Can you show where you claim there is a contradiction? The only thing I have ever seen when people make this claim is their errors in taking verses beyond the context they were written in. Remember, something out of context is a pretext
either way act how you wish its your path, but know you are not following his teachings...
Can you demonstrate this or are you comfortable providing prejudicial arbitrary conjectures?
31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise. 32For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them. 33And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same. 34And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again. 35But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
I do love my fellow man actually. But sometimes a person needs rebuke when they err according to the scripture. As previously stated, I'd expect someone who loves me to point out when I err according to scripture too. A wise man loves rebuke, a scorner hates it.
Secondly, Christ told us to judge according to scripture
Unfortunatly again i believe this is one of the many passages that have been altered according to someones agenda...
Why would jesus contradict his own words, unless those were not his words....
Luke 6:37
Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:
Matthew 7:1
Judge not, that ye be not judged.
john 12:47
And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Even christ did not judge, but he... Unlike you or myself can judge....because he is sent from God
As is stated here...
John 5:30
I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
So...are you compareing yourself with jesus? Are you rightous according to God, or according to your book?
Careful with your answer...because as i've stated God did not write your bible....
No my friend, you should not judge any man no matter what his issue.... Again as i've said before, you know whats right in your heart, you know another mans heart according to his works or even his words....But you are not to judge any man according to his work or his words because you are not rightous, nor is any man.
LOL! No we do not. There is the seed of the woman and the seed of the serpent:
Yeah, I choose not to lean on my own understanding but let the Word of God lead my life. Not going to apologize for that. As previously quoted:
I'm fairly convinced that either you're in love with IAMIAM or you are his 2nd account he uses to give himself stars. Pretty sad you'd resort to such trickery.
Originally posted by godspeaker
reply to post by Akragon
Christians don't understand what being out of context means. Only the storyteller knows the individual sentences in his story when there's a lot of symbolic messages in it. Those people who become the storyteller can understand these sentences but no Christian has ever been a storyteller. They always take the scriptures out of context because they're only sinners.
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by IAMIAM
True true, we are all part of the whole...All brothers regardless of the label you chose for yourself...
Heres a wonderful story i think some people in this thread should read...
I had a dream I died and I was walking along the road to Heaven or Hell. I as walked along an effulgent path covered in a bright white mist, an angel appeared in the bend of the road and floated along beside me. My eyes were dazzled by the brilliance while my ears clearly heard, "Along the way you will meet GOD and the Devil. The Devil will always lie to you and GOD will always tell you the truth. But you only get to ask GOD one question and the DEVIL one question.
As the Angel started to fade and before I could ask anything, "Don't worry, you should have no trouble figuring out what the question should be."
I was walking along the when my worst enemy appeared along the road and started walking along side looking disgusted and said, "I am GOD and I will show you the way to Heaven."
As I walked along in disbelief and before I had really recovered my best friend appeared from the white mists and joined us and laughed while gently touching my arm, "I am GOD and I will show you the way to Heaven."
At that moment we were at a fork in the road. The worst enemy I had ever met in my lifetime was standing to my right and the best friend I had ever had was standing to my left. I turned to my best friend and realized the devil could form a pleasing shape so I hesitated. So I turned to my worst enemy and realized that if I couldn't recognize GOD in my worst enemy I couldn't recognize GOD. Yet still I hesitated.
They both were content to wait and I was baffled. Then I remembered something I had learned from my Master. He would always say, "Duality is an illusion." The memory of that phrase made me realize simultaneously that it didn't matter which one was the Devil and which one was GOD; As long as I asked a question they both would answer the same, the Wisdom of Balance would come to my rescue!
I bowed before them both and said, "If I asked the Devil which was the way to Heaven, where would he point?" As I looked up they were both pointing to my left, so I went to my right and entered the Kingdom of Heaven.
Originally posted by IAMIAM
reply to post by NOTurTypical
But that is the past. How his Disciples were able to recognise him. What does Revelation say about the recognising of the Christ?