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Originally posted by kiwifoot
Radical Islam is world's greatest threat - Tony Blair
www.bbc.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)
Former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair has described radical Islam as the greatest threat facing the world today.
Mr Blair said radical Islamists believed that whatever was done in the name of their cause was justified - including the use of chemical, biological or nuclear weapons
Originally posted by detachedindividual
Originally posted by kiwifoot
Radical Islam is world's greatest threat - Tony Blair
www.bbc.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)
Former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair has described radical Islam as the greatest threat facing the world today.
Mr Blair said radical Islamists believed that whatever was done in the name of their cause was justified - including the use of chemical, biological or nuclear weapons
I disagree.
The most dangerous threat to the world is corporate business and government.
A terrorist attack threatens a group of people in a country, the financial crisis that they didn't see coming affects billions of people.
It amazes me that they take such efforts to prevent attacks which will affect a few hundred people at most, instigating new laws, destroying freedoms and hyping up the threats, and yet something that threatens the very stability of the entire nation is "overlooked".
How many nations now rely on other nations for importing food, fuel and so on? Where is National Security concern there?
A minority of corporations now control much of the global business and trade. Where is the National Security concern there?
That we trust a single word any of these idiots say is very surprising.
Originally posted by kiwifoot
What he fails to point out is that if it wasn't for Mr Blair, Mr Bush and Mr Cheney, there probably wouldn't BE radical Islamists as we know them in 2010.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by kiwifoot
What he fails to point out is that if it wasn't for Mr Blair, Mr Bush and Mr Cheney, there probably wouldn't BE radical Islamists as we know them in 2010.
Um ... wrong. There has been 'radical Islam' since Islam was invented by Muhammad. It spread at the point of a sword. Now it spreads with guns and bombs. To say that Blair and Bush invented Islamic Terrorists is to fail to understand the history of Islam.
"Why I am not a Muslim" by Ibn Warriq. Read it. The truth shall set you free.
Radical Islam itself isn't the worlds greatest threat. LIES are. The truth must be told in order to combat ignorance. Radical fundamentalist religions that call for the deaths of all non-believers are a danger to the world. Communism is a danger to the world. Globalism is a danger. The shadow business world that runs wars are a danger. The global-warming hoax which is really a massive money making scheme for the elite is a danger.
The LIES that cover these is the utlimate danger.
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Originally posted by kiwifoot
Here we go again, I'll try and explain but I know I'll get nowhere.
Originally posted by kiwifoot
I didn't say anywhere that TB and GB were responsible for all Islamic Fundamentalist, Radical Islam or any such concept.
Originally posted by kiwifoot
Never in my life have I seen such obstinate reasoning, where arguments have gone off on a tangent by pedantically picking on ONE PHRASE, derailing the key argument and citing the actions of centuries ago in an argument based in modern times.
Originally posted by kiwifoot
If Italy attacked Greece tomorrow, would you say those damned Romans and their Empire, always looking to expand??? No of course you wouldn't.
German raids target 'violent Islamic extremists'
More than 150 German investigators fanned out across Berlin Wednesday, searching dozens of apartments allegedly linked to "potentially violent Islamic extremists," a police spokeswoman told CNN.
The raids centered on a group of approximately 15 suspects -- most of them German citizens -- believed to be plotting bomb attacks in Russia, the release stated. Police said the suspects' actions were being directed by a Berlin-based Islamist organization.
Terror from the German Heartland
By Marcel Rosenbach and Holger Stark
Exactly one year ago, German investigators arrested three Muslim extremists. They wanted to build a bomb in southern Germany capable of killing as many as possible. The ringleader was born and raised in a German family. But how did he become a terrorist?
'Allah Has Blinded Them'
Gelowicz and Yilmaz talk shop about the number of bombs and victims. They expect there to be at least 150 casualties, with the target being someplace big -- a place like Frankfurt Airport. Yilmaz suggests the central German city of Giessen, noting that there are some really big American discos there. He says that he wants "to maximize the impact, Achi, really: another Sept. 11."
Latest update: 19/01/2010 - Canada - terrorism
Leader of Toronto bourse bomb plot sentenced to life in prison
The leader of a group of 18 alleged Islamic extremists accused of planning to bomb the Toronto Stock Exchange and other targets was sentenced to life in prison on Monday for "his role in a terrorist plot".
updated 5:30 a.m. EST, Mon January 28, 2008
Extremists plotted attacks across Europe, Spanish paper says
MADRID, Spain (CNN) -- Suspected Islamic extremists arrested last week in Barcelona were planning al Qaeda-style attacks in Spain, Germany, France, Britain and Portugal, according to an informant who "infiltrated" the group, Spain's El Pais newspaper reports.
"If we attack the metro [subway system in Barcelona], the emergency services can't get there," one of the suspected suicide bombers told the informant, El Pais reported on Saturday. "Our preference is public transport, especially the metro."
Originally posted by kiwifoot
But because I slighted your hero George Bush, and because you hate Muslims, this ridiculous line of argument has continued.
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by FlyersFan
Apparently the OP seems to believe that "Islamic Extremists as we know them in 2010" just popped out of thin air and appeared in 2010 because of TB and GB...
The OP wants to ignore that ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS have existed for over 1,300 years and have been attacking the western world, and anyone who would not bow to Muhammed's radical Islam, INCLUDING moderate Muslims who do not want to embrace the radicalism in which Islam was founded.
If Jesus Christ had been forcing Christianity by the sword, and raiding caravans taking women/slaves and behading the men who had surrounded to him I would be saying the same thing about Christianity or any other religion which has/had a murderous, raiding rapist as a religious idol.
Moderate Muslims only want to embrace the parts of Islam which are not violent, and many of them have paid with their lives on the hands of Islamic extremists for trying to do this.
Originally posted by Michael Cecil
That is, neither 'moderate' nor 'radical' Islam will prevent conflicts between Jews, Christians and Muslims.
It is only by returning to the fundamental Revelations that violence can be avoided.
Michael Cecil
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
That is nothing more than an ignorant comment, because you are ignoring the fact that ISLAMIC EXTREMISM HAS EXISTED SINCE THE 7th CENTURY AND HASN'T DISSAPEARED...
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
German raids target 'violent Islamic extremists'
More than 150 German investigators fanned out across Berlin Wednesday, searching dozens of apartments allegedly linked to "potentially violent Islamic extremists," a police spokeswoman told CNN.
The raids centered on a group of approximately 15 suspects -- most of them German citizens -- believed to be plotting bomb attacks in Russia, the release stated. Police said the suspects' actions were being directed by a Berlin-based Islamist organization.
articles.cnn.com...:WORLD
Did Russia participate in the Iraqi war against Iraq?... In fact the Russian government was caught helping the Iraqi regime by giving them U.S. and allied troop movements by a Russian ambassador...
You think Islamic extremists have not tried to kill German people?...
Originally posted by Michael Cecil
My reply to this is that neither the 'moderate' Muslims nor the 'radical' Muslims have any idea whatsoever of the two specific Revelations that Mohammed received, which also formed the foundation of the Torah, Isaiah, Daniel, and the Gospels; those Revelations being: 1) the Vision of the "Son of man", referred to in Genesis 3:24 as the "tree of life" and in the Quran as the "Night Journey" of Mohammed; and, 2) the Revelation of the "resurrection", consisting of the Revelation of the Memory of Creation (Genesis 2:7) and the revelation of the memories of previous lives.
That is, neither 'moderate' nor 'radical' Islam will prevent conflicts between Jews, Christians and Muslims.
It is only by returning to the fundamental Revelations that violence can be avoided.
Michael Cecil
Originally posted by Siddharta
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
That is nothing more than an ignorant comment, because you are ignoring the fact that ISLAMIC EXTREMISM HAS EXISTED SINCE THE 7th CENTURY AND HASN'T DISSAPEARED...
That is a very stupid argument. But since it was repeated again and again, I fear it will be repeated again and again on the next pages.
I guess the next step would be to sew a red half moon on every Muslim's clothes...
Originally posted by nenothtu
Originally posted by Michael Cecil
My reply to this is that neither the 'moderate' Muslims nor the 'radical' Muslims have any idea whatsoever of the two specific Revelations that Mohammed received, which also formed the foundation of the Torah, Isaiah, Daniel, and the Gospels; those Revelations being: 1) the Vision of the "Son of man", referred to in Genesis 3:24 as the "tree of life" and in the Quran as the "Night Journey" of Mohammed; and, 2) the Revelation of the "resurrection", consisting of the Revelation of the Memory of Creation (Genesis 2:7) and the revelation of the memories of previous lives.
That is, neither 'moderate' nor 'radical' Islam will prevent conflicts between Jews, Christians and Muslims.
It is only by returning to the fundamental Revelations that violence can be avoided.
Michael Cecil
At the risk of being pedantic, I'm going to have to have a source for that information - this business of Mohammed having two specific revelations, one of which was of the "resurrection".
When Mohammed composed the Qur'an, he VERY specifically denied the resurrection. This is immortalized in an engraving circling the Dome of the Rock.
Now someone has evidence that the Resurrection was received by Mohammed in a "revelation"?
Originally posted by Michael Cecil
neither the 'moderate' Muslims nor the 'radical' Muslims have any idea whatsoever of the two specific Revelations that Mohammed received,
Originally posted by TrueBrit
It clearly states in the Bible
not featured in the original scripture.
The invention of those saints by the Church was a heresy of galactic proportions.
Jesus never said, "build temples unto me, and attend them only on the last of the days of the week!".
He specificaly did NOT want people meeting in Churches, and having pastors vicars priests and what have you clogging up the faith, because he knew them to be flawed, mortal .
Originally posted by Siddharta
That is a very stupid argument. But since it was repeated again and again, I fear it will be repeated again and again on the next pages.
I guess the next step would be to sew a red half moon on every Muslim's clothes...