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Originally posted by Hitotsumami
My question was why does the universe require a God if it is infinite.
The first post of the thread states that the spirit, or God, is nothing, and that is what I have been arguing against. I cannot quite understand how your response answered the above question, or the original proposal of the thread.
Can you explain further, if you are able?
As far as I am aware, we create these meanings in our mind.
In other words what you are really saying is that your material brain produces "things" such as feelings which have no material attributes at all. How amazing is this?
You may not be able to hold feelings in your hand, but this does not mean they are made of nothing. They are formed in the brain.
One thing you may be a little fuzzy on is that there are things which are material in nature then there are things which are not. Its either something or nothing. material things exist in space. Non material things do not. There is no gray area.Its as simple as black and white.
And even if you can somehow show me how they are truly nothing, refer to my previous post as to why even if is not made of anything physical, it is still not 'nothing.'
Please show me what attributes God may have that are material. NONE! ZIP! NADDA. There is either material or non material. Nothing does not mean non existence. It just means not existing in space.
God does have attributes. Even if these attributes exist outside our universe, he has them nonetheless. Because he has attributes, he cannot be nothing. Nothing has no attributes.
Right. Only Gods are infinite.Ours are finite.However ,These attributes are relative to our spirit(non-material) and not our body (material)
The attributes of God? As far as I have been told, they are loving, jealous, anger. Very similar to human attributes.