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Romantic_Rebel:
Real quick! What is the Christian God exactly? Christianity is the largest religion with numerous sects. Most worship Jesus as God in human form. Which contradicts Judaism view of God.
Can you check this out?
www.usbible.com...
This is a classic story from the Bible which talks about a pre existing universe.
"Does a spirit have any kind of characteristic?
Originally posted by Hitotsumami
Romantic_Rebel:
Real quick! What is the Christian God exactly? Christianity is the largest religion with numerous sects. Most worship Jesus as God in human form. Which contradicts Judaism view of God.
Can you check this out?
www.usbible.com...
This is a classic story from the Bible which talks about a pre existing universe.
Sorry for not responding very quickly.
For your first question, as far as I am aware, the Christian God is the God proposed in the Old and New Testaments of the Bible. I am afraid I do not quite see how this reflects an answer to how God is nothing.
If you could better explain, it would help me very much.
As for your second part on there being a pre existing universe, I also do not quite understand how this explains how God is nothing and that is what Hawking was referring to. And just to say, I do not see how the first part of Genesis was referring to a previous universe. I will visit your link soon and read more.
Or perhaps I have missed your point. I hope to receive a response so I can better understand.
Kind regards
Originally posted by oliveoil
reply to post by Hitotsumami
Oh Im so sorry I missed that.
"Does a spirit have any kind of characteristic?
Yes it does. To Love and to Know. Knowledge serves love.
And this is perhaps the bottom line as to why "nothing" God created
Originally posted by Hitotsumami
Originally posted by oliveoil
reply to post by Hitotsumami
Oh Im so sorry I missed that.
"Does a spirit have any kind of characteristic?
Yes it does. To Love and to Know. Knowledge serves love.
And this is perhaps the bottom line as to why "nothing" God created
Thank you for the response.
If God has characteristics, than how can it be nothing? As far as I am aware, nothing has no characteristics.
I am very sorry if I am not understanding correctly and will be happy to learn more if you explain further.
Kind regards
Originally posted by EnlightenUp
There is a big difference between "nothing" and "no thing" but it is impossible to say what.
Originally posted by DISRAELI
reply to post by Romantic_Rebel
John ch5 v18- "He called God his Father, making himself equal with God"- the Jews recognised that he was making this claim, which is why they wanted to stone him.
I've been through all this argument before on a thread in BTS, so I wouldn't want to do any more than look up the link to that thead.
Anyway, this is a thread about the Creation, on which Judaism and Christianity are on the same side.
Originally posted by Hitotsumami
reply to post by Romantic_Rebel
Thank you for the response.
I am indeed not religious. I also agree that Judaism and Christianity is not the same. Why are you providing this information and how does it relate to the subject of the thread? I'm afraid I don't quite understand.
Very sorry if I am missing your point.
Kind regards
Here's some info you might like as well. I believe this is where OP was coming from.
judaism.about.com...
God is incorporeal.
In Judaism, God has no body, God is non-physical. Any mention of God's body is considered to be metaphorical. Any physical representation of God, such as the Golden Calf, is considered to be idolatry. As God has no body, He has no gender. While God is referred to in masculine terms and the Shechinah (Divine presence that fills the universe) is referred to in feminine terms, God is actually neither male nor female.
Because the concept of God is different in Judaism and Christianity. A lot of people are confused as to what the OT and NT are trying say.
Originally posted by Hitotsumami
reply to post by Romantic_Rebel
Here's some info you might like as well. I believe this is where OP was coming from.
judaism.about.com...
Thank you for the link. I quickly read through it. The one line that stuck out was as follows:
God is incorporeal.
In Judaism, God has no body, God is non-physical. Any mention of God's body is considered to be metaphorical. Any physical representation of God, such as the Golden Calf, is considered to be idolatry. As God has no body, He has no gender. While God is referred to in masculine terms and the Shechinah (Divine presence that fills the universe) is referred to in feminine terms, God is actually neither male nor female.
I think that just because it is not physical and exists outside our universe does not mean it is nothing.
God has attributes, so I still do not see how it can be 'nothing'. It may be nothing in our universe, but it must have some kind of being to have attributes.
Kind regards
Originally posted by Hitotsumami
Does this mean the universe has always been? If it has always been, why is a God required for the universe to be at all?
Thanks again for the reply
Kind regards
Originally posted by Hitotsumami
reply to post by Romantic_Rebel
Because the concept of God is different in Judaism and Christianity. A lot of people are confused as to what the OT and NT are trying say.
Thanks for the response.
As far as I am aware, the thread title is specifying how the Christian Bible represents God, so this is what I am responding to.
Kind regards
Originally posted by oliveoil
reply to post by Hitotsumami
Does love and knowledge have any material characteristics?
They are most certainly not nothing. Oh wait a minute. if they are not something they must be nothing.
[edit on 3-9-2010 by oliveoil]
[edit on 3-9-2010 by oliveoil]
I think that just because it is not physical and exists outside our universe does not mean it is nothing.
God has attributes, so I still do not see how it can be 'nothing'. It may be nothing in our universe, but it must have some kind of being to have attributes.