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German military report: Peak oil could lead to collapse of democracy

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posted on Sep, 3 2010 @ 09:01 AM

German military report: Peak oil could lead to collapse of democracy

Peak oil has happened or will happen some time around this year, and its consequences could threaten the continued survival of democratic governments, says a secret Germany military report that was leaked online.

According to Der Spiegel, the report from a think-tank inside the German military warns that shrinking global oil supplies will threaten the world's economic foundations and possibly lead to mass-scale upheaval within the next 15 to 30 years.

International trade would suffer
(visit the link for the full news article)

posted on Sep, 3 2010 @ 09:01 AM

The result would be the collapse of the industrial supply chain. "In the medium term the global economic system and every market-oriented national economy would collapse," the report states.

That collapse could, in turn, cause many countries to abandon free markets principles, the report states. Deals would be struck between oil-exporting and oil-importing countries that would fix prices and remove large amounts of oil from the global market place.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

So now we have the German military speaking to "Peak Oil", or at least a think-tank inside the German military. This report is pretty much stating what many of us have been saying for a long time now and it's good to see that other western powers are acknowledging it.

This report is quite interesting as it states that "Peak Oil" will happen within a year or so. What do other members think? Is "Peak Oil" a reality that we should be worrying about? Personally, I think this could be the reason for all of the preparations being made by governments around the world for civil unrest.

(visit the link for the full news article)

posted on Sep, 3 2010 @ 09:23 AM
Two part Plan B for an energy infrastructure overhaul, based on classical physics:

You may remember the War of the Currents. It was Edison ’s DC vs. Tesla’s AC. The latter won because AC can be carried long distances and could therefore accommodate a centralized generation infrastructure. Today the grid is being strained, it emits dangerous EMFs and it is an eyesore, but it works.


The Fossil Fuel industry says, “Solar and wind power could never meet the electricity needs of America …” That is a lie based on the idea that generation should continue to be centralized. DC was not plausible for a centralized energy infrastructure because it can only be carried short distances. However if we instead create a 12 volt DC grid based on decentralized or distributed generation we can harvest these forces efficiently.

A 12 volt DC grid would be accomplished by retrofitting every utility pole with a Vertical Axis Wind Turbine (VAWT) and a PV panel and installing an inverter in every home/business. This solves a few problems. First, coal, gas, and nuclear power are rendered obsolete. Secondly, the redundancy makes the grid robust and secure. Third, EMFs are eliminated.

With a two-way junction box, your subsidized off grid system can stay connected and you get paid for your excess power. Similarly I propose that households and businesses can adopt up to three utility poles and have them retrofitted with said technology, the investment will be offset by future profits. This plan would be a boon to those entities who manufacture VAWTs and PV cells and who maintain the grid.


Once converted, the new grid spawns a second industrial revolution to existing technology – vehicles. A chain of conversion facilities will be qualified to remove engines, gas tanks, exhaust systems and recycle them. Standardized electric motors, electronic control systems and battery packs will replace them. The cost of conversion will be subsidized and offset by the value of the components being recycled. The issue of driving range will be negated by converting gas stations into battery pack exchange stations. The Chevy Volt has a 40 mile range and the Tesla Roadster 400 miles…with exchange stations as common as gas stations are now, a minimal range of 100 miles is quite reasonable.

posted on Sep, 3 2010 @ 09:28 AM
reply to post by airspoon

Makes you wonder how hard it is to get a job in a "think tank". Isn't oil a biotic? I mean that it mixes itself and produces itself from some chemical process underground.

The Russians gambled on this theory after the Soviet Union broke up and saved their country. Putin had a lot to do with this.

"Fossil fuels" is a theory, and like Keynesian economics, the theory will fade with time.

posted on Sep, 3 2010 @ 09:47 AM
This new ATS format seems to be buggy and is not allowing me to type in the txt fields so I'll keep it brief. Almost everything we know about the world around us is a theory.

Crude being a fossil fuel is a pretty sound theory, as we do have a lot of research on the subject. The reason why it is not so easily renewed, is that it takes a long time to turn from the biological organisms to the liquid crude that we know as oil. Furthermore, the heat and pressure have to be just right because if it isn't, we get gasses or coal. Too much heat/pressure and we get nat-gas, while not enough heat/pressure gives us coal. So, along with the environment variables needing to be just right, the length of time is almost jaw-dropping, according to the pretty sound theory.

I think it's safe to say that we deplete crude and nat-gas far more quickly than Mother Earth can produce it, of course acorrding to the theory based on sound evidence.


posted on Sep, 3 2010 @ 10:10 AM
Ive read about peak oil, mostly on some said 2008, tohers have heard it over decades, peak oil was gunna happen the next year, and so on and so on....
i read this year, they found billions of barrels of oil in Iraq and to me, that put peak oil back a bit* of course if thier more Horizon oil well leaks, that could change things too.
Thiers shale oil up near western canada that could be extracted..but the energy required to take the oil outta the rocks would pretty much use around 50% of fuel to extract it, as oppopsed to pumping it out of a well.
well..its nice to see rockefeller isnt going to let us go green as long they own n control the oil empire* all in the name of greed n money. when we go totaly electrical, batterys, hydrogen..rockefeller must make sure they own most of it, costing and arm of money before allwoing us to have it*
going green is nice, but in reality its just a dream, meant to profit off of

posted on Sep, 3 2010 @ 10:13 AM
Also..i think its pretty much assumed or belived now, oil is Anionic..meaning the earth somehow regenerates it, much like our bodys regenerate blood cells* its turns out, oil may not after all be form the land fo the dinosaurs* If its true, then oil will come back, but would take god knows how many millions of years to replenish what was extracted* not like any of us or business has that kinda timeframe to consume!

posted on Sep, 3 2010 @ 10:17 AM
reply to post by Kalki11

err, sorry to ask... but what does your reply have to do with OP's peak oil thread?

posted on Sep, 3 2010 @ 10:53 AM
Side story first....
Theoretically, a democracy government should not fail unless the leader divert from majority intention(s).

What Peak Oil have to do with politic ?
Theoretically, the correct answer is "Nothing".

But we live in lying world, so we have these things affecting our politic and thus the governments. It is clear that the current democracy is tainted with lies.
On to Oil Peak, the effect is well known and is nothing new. The action the government will take will decide their future, now thats a democracy in progress.

Kalki11 suggestions is straight to heart of the answer, but will your governments take it ? As far as I can see, USA gov know this before hand and preemptively choose to "secure" the oil fields in the Middle East.

Its not a good choice but thats the lying politic is all about.

Iraq war - 2003 (plan exist years before this) = 7 year
Infrastructure buildup - 10 years
Iraq puppet gov - prolly will hold for 15+ more years
The oil supply - 100+ years

Oil reserves in Iraq

Know you know why USA gov want so much the Iraq land, thirst for oil, its like buying extra six pack to keep in the refrigerator.

Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF) should be read
Operation Iraqi Liberty (OIL), now you know

posted on Sep, 4 2010 @ 01:25 PM
They have dozens, if not hundreds of patents for free, carbon-free, low-cost, easily obtained energy - more than enough to fulfill the needs of the planet - but these patents are BEING SUPPRESSED bu the Big Corporations of the Cabal.

There is NO ENERGY CRISIS, except the one they are all DELIBERATELY creating in order to impose their demonic agenda of total control and enslavery of the people.

There is NO energy crisis, this is WAR, the WAR they have declared on the people.

The German 'report' is just one more propaganda exercise to get the people to accept what they are planning on doing next......bring down the economy and enslave everybody through total control of all necessities.

Wake up everybody. I'm surprised that people, especially on ATS, still don't treat any MSM news with the greatest suspicion and see it for what it is - WAR PROPAGANDA.

[edit on 4-9-2010 by wcitizen]

posted on Sep, 4 2010 @ 02:06 PM
reply to post by airspoon

Now everybody is getting on the "Peak Oil" bandwagon craze.

US Military Warns: Peak Oil in 2012

A report issued by the U.S. Joint Forces Command predicts that oil production will peak, and the world will begin facing shortages of 10 million barrels a day by 2015. Daily Finance Article The article also goes on to say that "experts" think oil shortages will cause another economic crisis by 2013.

posted on Sep, 4 2010 @ 02:08 PM
I doubt it would take 15-30 years before it causes a large upheaval, I would have thought it would be much sooner than that. It's decline in production would have catastrophic consequences to the economy yet look at the state of the economy now?
We are heading towards a global depression and at the same time the world is facing a global decline in oil production.
Sure there have recently been oil discoveries but none of them compare to how much oil is consumed in the world every day.

posted on Sep, 4 2010 @ 02:20 PM
reply to post by SpaceMonkeys

You have to remember that peak oil wouldn't cause an immediate decline in refinement. Crude refinement is already under capacity, as to spur supply and demand, ultimately keeping prices *higher.


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