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Police nab puppy killer

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posted on Sep, 5 2010 @ 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by 547000
Why? Because spiders don't feel pain? Some people have pet spiders ya know?

Every time you are swatting a fly you are killing it.


Come on, you can't be serious.... you can't compare spiders to dogs or cats.... not the spiders that crawl around in the garden and build webs in your house etc etc...

Maybe pet Taratulas are different... people keep these in containers.... but everyday spiders are everywhere and there's tons of them....

Puppy dogs & cats deserve a better life than to be thrown into a river or chucked into a bin... they are very close to humans in the way they sleep, eat and act.... we should respect them and love them like we should the bigger cats and in fact all Wildlife .... except spiders and flies!!




posted on Sep, 5 2010 @ 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
Come on, you can't be serious.... you can't compare spiders to dogs or cats.... not the spiders that crawl around in the garden and build webs in your house etc etc...


Of course you can compare them. They're all animals, and we're all related.

Just because they aren't ''cute'' like puppies, should have very little to do with how one should treat fellow animal life.


Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
they are very close to humans in the way they sleep, eat and act.


Just like cows, sheep, pigs and horses...


Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
.... we should respect them and love them like we should the bigger cats and in fact all Wildlife .... except spiders and flies!!


More rampant hypocrisy.

I have come to the conclusion, that all the puppy defenders on here, are doing so purely out of their own ego, rather than any genuine compassion.

''I think puppies are cute, therefore nobody should kill them''

''I don't like spiders or flies, therefore I think it's ok to kill them''

There is absolutely no logic in these two contradictory opinions.

[edit on 5-9-2010 by Sherlock Holmes]



posted on Sep, 5 2010 @ 05:13 PM
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oh come on, spiders are damn ugly!


Little creepy things that get everywhere....

And flies... well they are the same... get in your face, bite you, cause rashes and other spots to appear on your body.... they eat feaces.... and then they get through your windows or doors and lay eggs about the place and land on your kitchen top and food ......

yeh very nice they are....

but.... i do see your logic.....



posted on Sep, 5 2010 @ 05:25 PM
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Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes

Originally posted by john_bmth
Getting a kick out of killing animals such as puppies as a child is often one of many indicators of psychopathy. Animal rights issues aside, I'd say that it is of concern to society at large that a child can kill so gleefully.


It's pretty common for children to go hunting and fishing with their fathers, killing animals.

Should all these children be put on some kind of a watch list ?

Before anybody says anything along the lines of ''That's different. They are killing for food'', I would like to stop you there, as this an intellectually dishonest argument.

There is absolutely nothing that precludes someone gaining pleasure from torturing or murdering an animal, that they wish to eat later.

Torturing animals is a well-known preamble to psychopathy. From Wikipedia:


One of the known warning signs of certain psychopathologies, including anti-social personality disorder, also known as psychopathic personality disorder, is a history of torturing pets and small animals, a behavior known as zoosadism.



posted on Sep, 5 2010 @ 06:03 PM
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Spiders and flies may not be ''glamour'' creatures, but they are both beautiful in their own way.


Unless, you're arachnophobic. or have a fear of insects ( I don't know the technical term ! ), then I'd recommend watching spiders and insects in your garden, or in the wild, more closely, then your attitude towards these creatures may change !



posted on Sep, 5 2010 @ 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by john_bmth
Torturing animals is a well-known preamble to psychopathy.


I'm not denying that.

What I'm saying is that it is a tad selective to cite the example of this girl potentially growing up into a dangerous psychopath, when it is a common practice in our society to encourage young children to take part and/or witness, the torture and killing of animals, first hand, through hunting and fishing.


[edit on 5-9-2010 by Sherlock Holmes]



posted on Sep, 6 2010 @ 04:02 AM
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When i was a little boy i used to pick up ants and put them into spiders webs to watchhow the spider would kill it... it used to be an experiment type of thing which was quite educational so yeh i have watched spiders perform their daily routines... i've knocked out their webs only to watch them rebuild it.... yeh they are ok as long as they aren't crawling around in my living room or bed!!



posted on Sep, 6 2010 @ 04:16 AM
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Originally posted by Sheol
Look at this woman

1. Does she looks rich?
2. Does she seems literate?
3. Does it look she can afford a vet?
4. She lives in some obscured rural area where they probably have not even heard of a vet and yet,

her views

For me there is no difference between a calf and an infant,"
shows that surrounding situations doesn't let her from having empathy and feeling humane towards another living being.



So all the excuses giving in this thread about poverty, war etc etc. are just attempts to suppress animal cruelty.

[edit on 4-9-2010 by Sheol]


What a great picture to illustrate there is no excuse for taking pleasure in the killings of puppies


I'm sorry your point has been twisted by others who use the power of distortion and the effects of repeating the distortion in order to imagine their excuses are validated for taking pleasure in pain and suffering.



[edit on 6-9-2010 by sweetliberty]



posted on Sep, 6 2010 @ 05:42 AM
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I see you asked this question in an earlier post due to a response from the picture you posted.

How do you know she is Hindu and believes in reincarnation? Do all Hindu believe in re-incarnation?

As I see it, if anyone’s reply attempts to imply ALL persons who profess to be of a certain religion believe in the same things, then would that also apply to Muslims?

Convenience would be the only reason anyone would try to imply ALL persons of a belief are ALL in agreement to that belief. It's convenient for them to imply this for this agrument only to change tactics to fit their own personal agenda with another belief/religion! LMAO.
The lady in the picture you posted values life and she doesn't victimize herself with excuses to be heartless. She did what she could to preserve life.
The older child who proudly tossed the puppies into the river will blame whatever and whoever she can think of for her enjoyment of being so cruel, just as others on here will find lame excuses not to be responsible for their own actions.

Thanks

sl



[edit on 6-9-2010 by sweetliberty]



posted on Sep, 6 2010 @ 05:59 AM
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Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes

Originally posted by john_bmth
Torturing animals is a well-known preamble to psychopathy.


I'm not denying that.

What I'm saying is that it is a tad selective to cite the example of this girl potentially growing up into a dangerous psychopath, when it is a common practice in our society to encourage young children to take part and/or witness, the torture and killing of animals, first hand, through hunting and fishing.


[edit on 5-9-2010 by Sherlock Holmes]

Morality aside for the moment, there is a difference between killing a puppy and a fish/spider/etc. Puppies are highly socialised creatures. We can read their emotions and visa versa and they're one of the few creatures that share this bond between us (dogs are the only animal other than humans to read emotional cues from our eyes. This is due to living in close contact with humans for scores of thousands of years). We can tell when a puppy is distressed, happy, sad, scared and so on (and visa versa). With fish there's a lot less scope for empathy because we don't have that emotional link (I couldn't even tell you if they even feel emotions... I really don't know). Spiders don't even have a central nervous system so we're even more emotionally distanced from them.

Now, I'm not saying "puppies deserve to live a happy, pain-free life more than fish or spiders". I don't agree with any animal killing unless it's absolutely necessary (i.e. to put it out of misery for humane reasons, even this is a grey area). I don't even kill spiders & insects, rather herd them out of the house if need be. But that's the morality side of things. What I am saying is that on an emotional level, puppies and other animals (either highly socialised or ones that we can read the emotions of) are far "closer" to humans insofar as torturing and killing them has more ramifications for deeper social issues than killing fish/spiders. I highly doubt that children who go fishing are considerably more prone to psychopathy than children who gleefully kill puppies. Whether this is morally "right" or "wrong" is beside the point, I think it's fair to say that one act of killing is a greater concern to society than the other.

One could read this as being selective but this is not my point. As I've said, I don't agree with any animal killing but whether I like it or not I have a far stronger reaction to animals "closer" to humans than those that are not. Torturing and killing such animals is less removed from torturing and killing humans and as such acts as a powerful indicator as to how such a person may act towards another human being later on in life.



posted on Sep, 6 2010 @ 08:57 AM
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the girl is not a sociopath, psychopath or any other mental disorder, not will she ever grow and develop into one.
She did not torture and animal.

She simply threw six puppies in to a river in an effort to drown them which would take less than a minute.
She did not dismember them and pull their tails off.
She did not smash their .s.
She did not autopsy them while they were alive.

She killed six puppies in the most efficient cost effective way available to her.



posted on Sep, 6 2010 @ 09:12 AM
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I have a funny feeling many on this thread might actually frown on my own practice of crucifying errant geckos that wonder into my inner sanctum santorium on crosses made of popcycle sticks and displaying them in prominent view as a warning to other geckos to think twice about invading?

Seems like a perfectly sensible practice to me!

Many of them have been known to utter "Forgive him father, he knows not what he does"?????????



[edit on 6/9/10 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]



posted on Sep, 6 2010 @ 09:19 AM
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Originally posted by slugger9787
the girl is not a sociopath, psychopath or any other mental disorder, not will she ever grow and develop into one.
She did not torture and animal.

She simply threw six puppies in to a river in an effort to drown them which would take less than a minute.
She did not dismember them and pull their tails off.
She did not smash their .s.
She did not autopsy them while they were alive.

She killed six puppies in the most efficient cost effective way available to her.


SHE WASN'T CRYING DAMMIT SO SHE'S A MONSTER!11!!1



posted on Sep, 6 2010 @ 09:20 AM
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What the.... ?

I hope you're kidding, but even if you're not most will deem it acceptable torture as even the Son of God was crucified so a few Gecko's is nothing



posted on Sep, 6 2010 @ 09:23 AM
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Originally posted by slugger9787
the girl is not a sociopath, psychopath or any other mental disorder, not will she ever grow and develop into one.
She did not torture and animal.

She simply threw six puppies in to a river in an effort to drown them which would take less than a minute.
She did not dismember them and pull their tails off.
She did not smash their .s.
She did not autopsy them while they were alive.

She killed six puppies in the most efficient cost effective way available to her.

....because drowning puppies in a river is perfectly normal behaviour, isn't it?



posted on Sep, 6 2010 @ 09:25 AM
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Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
I have a funny feeling many on this thread might actually frown on my own practice of crucifying errant geckos that wonder into my inner sanctum santorium on crosses made of popcycle sticks and displaying them in prominent view as a warning to other geckos to think twice about invading?


Erm... what?

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On another note: Those people comparing puppies to spiders need to get their .s checked. Puppies and dogs are creatures that have evolved WITH humans and have a higher degree of emotional response than a spider. Puppies have higher developed brains and nervous systems and have emotions we can relate to.

That being said - i tend not to kill any animal besides flies as i believe EVERY animal has its place in the world. Even the HUGE brown spider that lives in my bathroom - which is quite monstrous but kind of beautiful.

The only reason i kill flies are because their constant maddening buzzing sound is distracting and they spread disease on food and food surfaces.

As for the woman in question... Could she have not given the puppies to a relative, friend or neighbour?



posted on Sep, 6 2010 @ 09:27 AM
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Originally posted by john_bmth

Originally posted by slugger9787
the girl is not a sociopath, psychopath or any other mental disorder, not will she ever grow and develop into one.
She did not torture and animal.

She simply threw six puppies in to a river in an effort to drown them which would take less than a minute.
She did not dismember them and pull their tails off.
She did not smash their .s.
She did not autopsy them while they were alive.

She killed six puppies in the most efficient cost effective way available to her.

....because drowning puppies in a river is perfectly normal behaviour, isn't it?


Given her circumstances, yes. She did not kill them for no reason. It's not like she said to herself, "Hahaha! I'mma go kill puppies for fun lol.'



posted on Sep, 6 2010 @ 09:35 AM
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To all the FLY sympathizers on here.

You lot are disgusting.

Don't complain to me the next time you get sick, when your favourite cheese has been intoxicated by the regurgitated fly vomit that is slowly breaking down and dissolving your food, as the bloated, maddening creature sucks and vomits on your food, occasionaly dropping bacteria ridden feces and partially digested ooze onto your sandwiches.

Don't complain to me when your nightly sleep is disturbed by the constant buzzing sound of freshly hatched fly, emerging from its larva state, along with a dozen of its brothers and sisters, ready to emerge from the creeping darkness, eagerly searching for the smell of your bodily fluids.... cross contaminating your food with your fecal matter.





[edit on 6-9-2010 by mr-lizard]



posted on Sep, 6 2010 @ 09:38 AM
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Originally posted by john_bmth
....because drowning puppies in a river is perfectly normal behaviour, isn't it?


Technically she didn't drown them

She only threw them, to drown them she would have to had physically held them under the water, again by saying she drowned them it makes the act seem more horrendous than it actually was



posted on Sep, 6 2010 @ 09:38 AM
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Speaking of animals that spread diseases, are we justified in killing pigeons?



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